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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 104688 Melbourne Gender:	Re: HillSux Church the Money Machine Reply #105 - Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 9:49am Hillsong believes in the prosperity message - that means that it doesn't matter if some kid in Africa is dying in the street while covered in flies - God cares about whether you will get a new car - your prosperity.
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Re: HillSux Church the Money Machine
Reply #106 - Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 9:54am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 9:49am:

Hillsong believes in the prosperity message -

that means that it doesn't matter if some kid in Africa is dying in the street while covered in flies -

God cares about whether you will get a new car - your prosperity.

Yeh too bad these kids can't make it to a HillSucks parish. Their prayers will never be answered Sad

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Reply #107 - Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 10:03am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21^st, 2013 at 11:13pm:

Emma wrote on Feb 21^st, 2013 at 11:01pm:

good on ya Bobby

supporting Hillsong is like saying those catholic/anglican ...christian 'priests' are innocent of evil pedophilia...

,, it seems some prefer fiction to reality, don't want those nasty thoughts... ooh too hard to acknowledge, let alone deal with. Sad

alls nice and rosey in their worlds.

Hi Emma,
A minister of the Hillsong church ramming kids bums & stealing their parents money -

the ultimate betrayal - stealing more than money.

Bump to Emma

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Reply #108 - Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 10:09am

Quantum wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 9:34am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 4:22am:

http://www.hillsong.com/

The first thing you see is the alum for sale

Why so many womens programs? Gee wonder who their main target is . . . .

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I am actually not a big fan of Hillsong, but this kind of criticism is ridiculous.

Too many women's programs? If they were to cut back, at what point would they be criticized for not having enough and neglecting the women in the church?

I doubt there is a happy balance for those criticizing them in this regard. Haters are simply gonna hate.

If you read what i said and actually COMPREHEND (google it i couldn't be bothered defining it for you) you will see that i was criticising their advertising strategy with the album being the first thing you see on the site. the womens thing was a question because why would a church need so many womens programs except if they are trying to get them in?

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Re: HillSux Church the Money Machine
Reply #109 - Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 10:11am

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 9:54am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 9:49am:

Hillsong believes in the prosperity message -

that means that it doesn't matter if some kid in Africa is dying in the street while covered in flies -

God cares about whether you will get a new car - your prosperity.

Yeh too bad these kids can't make it to a HillSucks parish. Their prayers will never be answered Sad

http://www.thehomelessgirl.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Starving-Child-5.jpg

And while people are starving all over the world, some poofs are complaining about practical petrol cars demanding that everyone should buy an expensive and less useful electric car. Funny how spending 2-3 more on an inferior product is fine whilst people are crying for food. You would think that people who really care about those is need would not spend $60000 on an electric car, when they could spend $20000 on petrol and send the remaining $40000 to those starving. But of course it is much easier to point out others should be doing more while still indulging on the fancy stuff yourself.

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Re: HillSux Church the Money Machine
Reply #110 - Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 10:19am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 10:09am:

Quantum wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 9:34am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 4:22am:

http://www.hillsong.com/

The first thing you see is the alum for sale

Why so many womens programs? Gee wonder who their main target is . . . .

SOB

I am actually not a big fan of Hillsong, but this kind of criticism is ridiculous.

Too many women's programs? If they were to cut back, at what point would they be criticized for not having enough and neglecting the women in the church?

I doubt there is a happy balance for those criticizing them in this regard. Haters are simply gonna hate.

If you read what i said and actually COMPREHEND (google it i couldn't be bothered defining it for you) you will see that i was criticising their advertising strategy with the album being the first thing you see on the site. the womens thing was a question because why would a church need so many womens programs except if they are trying to get them in?

SOB

It wasn't a question looking for an answer. The question was nothing more than a foundation for the next line of criticism.

You are complaining that a church is focusing too much on women. Considering many churches are criticized for not giving women enough of a voice it is nothing but a poor attempt at finding fault.

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: HillSux Church the Money Machine Reply #111 - Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 10:37am Bobby. wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 9:49am: Hillsong believes in the prosperity message - that means that it doesn't matter if some kid in Africa is dying in the street while covered in flies - God cares about whether you will get a new car - your prosperity. http://hillsongafrica.com/about/about-us/
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Re: HillSux Church the Money Machine
Reply #112 - Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 10:43am

Soren wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 10:37am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 9:49am:

Hillsong believes in the prosperity message -

that means that it doesn't matter if some kid in Africa is dying in the street while covered in flies -

God cares about whether you will get a new car - your prosperity.

http://hillsongafrica.com/about/about-us/

just weasel words on a website Sad

how much of what hillsong grabs actually goes to the needy ? I'd estimate less than five percent and that's being optimistic Sad

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Re: HillSux Church the Money Machine
Reply #113 - Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 10:44am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 10:09am:

Quantum wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 9:34am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 4:22am:

http://www.hillsong.com/

The first thing you see is the alum for sale

Why so many womens programs? Gee wonder who their main target is . . . .

SOB

I am actually not a big fan of Hillsong, but this kind of criticism is ridiculous.

Too many women's programs? If they were to cut back, at what point would they be criticized for not having enough and neglecting the women in the church?

I doubt there is a happy balance for those criticizing them in this regard. Haters are simply gonna hate.

If you read what i said and actually COMPREHEND (google it i couldn't be bothered defining it for you) you will see that i was criticising their advertising strategy with the album being the first thing you see on the site. the womens thing was a question because why would a church need so many womens programs except if they are trying to get them in?

SOB

Most advertising is aimed at women.

Why? because women control more than $20 trillion or about 70 percent of global consumer spending

So hillsong have taken the same strategy as everyone else - why are they the only ones to attract criticism for it? rhetorical.

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Re: HillSux Church the Money Machine
Reply #114 - Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 10:47am

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 10:43am:

Soren wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 10:37am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 9:49am:

Hillsong believes in the prosperity message -

that means that it doesn't matter if some kid in Africa is dying in the street while covered in flies -

God cares about whether you will get a new car - your prosperity.

http://hillsongafrica.com/about/about-us/

just weasel words on a website Sad

how much of what hillsong grabs actually goes to the needy ? I'd estimate less than five percent and that's being optimistic Sad

Yes Nail,
that rock star lifestyle costs a lot of money for the preachers.

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Re: HillSux Church the Money Machine
Reply #115 - Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 10:59am

... wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 10:44am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 10:09am:

Quantum wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 9:34am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 4:22am:

http://www.hillsong.com/

The first thing you see is the alum for sale

Why so many womens programs? Gee wonder who their main target is . . . .

SOB

I am actually not a big fan of Hillsong, but this kind of criticism is ridiculous.

Too many women's programs? If they were to cut back, at what point would they be criticized for not having enough and neglecting the women in the church?

I doubt there is a happy balance for those criticizing them in this regard. Haters are simply gonna hate.

If you read what i said and actually COMPREHEND (google it i couldn't be bothered defining it for you) you will see that i was criticising their advertising strategy with the album being the first thing you see on the site. the womens thing was a question because why would a church need so many womens programs except if they are trying to get them in?

SOB

Most advertising is aimed at women.

Why? because women control more than $20 trillion or about 70 percent of global consumer spending

So hillsong have taken the same strategy as everyone else - why are they the only ones to attract criticism for it? rhetorical.

because of the following statements from their own bible which they obviously don't follow.

Quote:

Matthew 6:19

Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal; but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

Luke 14:33

Any of you who does not give up everything he has cannot be my disciple.

Matthew 6:24

No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and Money.

Matthew 19:21

Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."

Hebrews 13:5

Keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have, because God has said, "Never will I leave you; never will I forsake you."

Phil 2:3

Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit, but in humility consider others better than yourselves.

Acts 2:44-45

All the believers were together and had everything in common. Selling their possessions and goods, they gave to anyone as he had need.

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Re: HillSux Church the Money Machine
Reply #116 - Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 11:03am

... wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 10:44am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 10:09am:

Quantum wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 9:34am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 4:22am:

http://www.hillsong.com/

The first thing you see is the alum for sale

Why so many womens programs? Gee wonder who their main target is . . . .

SOB

I am actually not a big fan of Hillsong, but this kind of criticism is ridiculous.

Too many women's programs? If they were to cut back, at what point would they be criticized for not having enough and neglecting the women in the church?

I doubt there is a happy balance for those criticizing them in this regard. Haters are simply gonna hate.

If you read what i said and actually COMPREHEND (google it i couldn't be bothered defining it for you) you will see that i was criticising their advertising strategy with the album being the first thing you see on the site. the womens thing was a question because why would a church need so many womens programs except if they are trying to get them in?

SOB

Most advertising is aimed at women.

Why? because women control more than $20 trillion or about 70 percent of global consumer spending

So hillsong have taken the same strategy as everyone else - why are they the only ones to attract criticism for it? rhetorical.

Where exactly did i criticise them for it? 2nd time i had to say that - comprehension problem mate?

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Re: HillSux Church the Money Machine
Reply #117 - Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 11:05am

Quantum wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 10:19am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 10:09am:

Quantum wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 9:34am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 4:22am:

http://www.hillsong.com/

The first thing you see is the alum for sale

Why so many womens programs? Gee wonder who their main target is . . . .

SOB

I am actually not a big fan of Hillsong, but this kind of criticism is ridiculous.

Too many women's programs? If they were to cut back, at what point would they be criticized for not having enough and neglecting the women in the church?

I doubt there is a happy balance for those criticizing them in this regard. Haters are simply gonna hate.

If you read what i said and actually COMPREHEND (google it i couldn't be bothered defining it for you) you will see that i was criticising their advertising strategy with the album being the first thing you see on the site. the womens thing was a question because why would a church need so many womens programs except if they are trying to get them in?

SOB

It wasn't a question looking for an answer. The question was nothing more than a foundation for the next line of criticism.

You are complaining that a church is focusing too much on women. Considering many churches are criticized for not giving women enough of a voice it is nothing but a poor attempt at finding fault.

If you have to try to twist what i say to mean something else you must not have anything to add to the discussion and should have stopped typing. I explained what i meant so you have no excuse other than you are trolling.

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Re: HillSux Church the Money Machine
Reply #118 - Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 11:07am

Nail
Quote:

Matthew 6:19

Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal; but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

Luke 14:33

Any of you who does not give up everything he has cannot be my disciple.

Matthew 6:24

No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and Money.

Matthew 19:21

Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."

Hebrews 13:5

Keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have, because God has said, "Never will I leave you; never will I forsake you."

Phil 2:3

Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit, but in humility consider others better than yourselves.

Acts 2:44-45

All the believers were together and had everything in common. Selling their possessions and goods, they gave to anyone as he had need.

Good quotes Nail,
all in direct contradiction to the prosperity message of Hillsong.

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Re: HillSux Church the Money Machine
Reply #119 - Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 11:18am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 11:05am:

Quantum wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 10:19am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 10:09am:

Quantum wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 9:34am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 4:22am:

http://www.hillsong.com/

The first thing you see is the alum for sale

Why so many womens programs? Gee wonder who their main target is . . . .

SOB

I am actually not a big fan of Hillsong, but this kind of criticism is ridiculous.

Too many women's programs? If they were to cut back, at what point would they be criticized for not having enough and neglecting the women in the church?

I doubt there is a happy balance for those criticizing them in this regard. Haters are simply gonna hate.

If you read what i said and actually COMPREHEND (google it i couldn't be bothered defining it for you) you will see that i was criticising their advertising strategy with the album being the first thing you see on the site. the womens thing was a question because why would a church need so many womens programs except if they are trying to get them in?

SOB

It wasn't a question looking for an answer. The question was nothing more than a foundation for the next line of criticism.

You are complaining that a church is focusing too much on women. Considering many churches are criticized for not giving women enough of a voice it is nothing but a poor attempt at finding fault.

If you have to try to twist what i say to mean something else you must not have anything to add to the discussion and should have stopped typing. I explained what i meant so you have no excuse other than you are trolling.

SOB

You can clarify what you meant by saying;

"sorry, what I meant to say was...." or "the point I was trying to make was..... Sorry for the confusion"

But instead, and as always, you blame others for not comprehending what you have written. Unfortunately, these people comprehend what you have written perfectly, it is just that you don't know what the hell you are trying to say so you attack people for not being mind readers.

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