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Re: HillSux Church the Money Machine
Reply #195 - Feb 24th, 2013 at 7:23am
 
aquascoot wrote on Feb 24th, 2013 at 7:20am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 24th, 2013 at 5:20am:
Quantum wrote on Feb 23rd, 2013 at 12:00pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 23rd, 2013 at 11:51am:
Quantum wrote on Feb 23rd, 2013 at 11:38am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 23rd, 2013 at 5:03am:
Quantum wrote on Feb 22nd, 2013 at 5:07pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 22nd, 2013 at 4:56pm:
Emma wrote on Feb 22nd, 2013 at 3:57pm:
I'm sick of it too.... Quantum you are just as responsible as SOB for these boringly mindless petty disputes...so is longo ..

you do add nothing to a topic ,,,but boring personal garbage....  at least SOB tries to comment,, and as he pointed out ,  YOU  Q, take it on a tangent which has nothing to do with the topic.

I would definitely call you a moron.... a troll,,, and wasted space,,,
Too bad  you and Longo  aren't long gone.  Tongue


 


The thing is that i comment on the topic then
they
start with the attempted abuse and off the topic it goes.
They
are trolls.

SOB


Crying again!

* You comment on the topic (and even then it hardly makes sense)
* someone asks you a question regarding what you said
* you go apeshit accusing people of being trolls and lashing out at you.

You have no interest in discussing anything. The last couple of pages are proof of that. You want to stir shlt and then cry about it. Toughen up pussy.


Liar. I didnt say it was you anyway but if you want to take the blame go for it. Answering a comment with abuse is trolling. You do it. Longy does it and KJT does it. Not just to me either.

Now do you have anything to say on the topic of hillsong?

The catholic church is huge and rich over 100s of years and hillsong did it in a few years. IMO they should be paying tax.

SOB


This is the problem! You say you weren't talking about me. What does "they" refer back to then? Under the rules of English grammar, the "they" must refer back to the people mentioned in the discussion. So when you say "I didnt say it was you anyway" that is bullshit. I was one of the people the "they" was referring to.

You don't understand how to write and then blame others for your stupidity. Grow up you moron.


Well if the shoe fits . . . ..   you are doing it now @ any rate

Nothing to say on topic then?

Go away troll

SOB


You're crying again and you still have nothing to say on topic.

Go away troll.




Just because the "last word" seems to important to you

You didnt comment on the topic so there wasnt anything to respond to troll

SOB



well no, thats unfair, quantum was the first person to respond to my question in a meaningful way.
you dont really ask questions spot, you just post what you believe" dogma" and you never shift your position.
this reflects a closed mind and is also the attribute you most often complain about Cry Cry

on THAT subject, the pentecostals i work with are very very sure of themselves . now its good to have self confidence , but my impression is , it goes beyond this.
they do lend me a lot of stuff.

i have read and listened to quite a lot of stuff by chuck swindoll (insight for living) and i would definitely recommend his cd's

but if you offered them a buddhist text or confuscian text , they would almost explode in arrogant dismissiveness Wink Wink

the main thing they tell me, is "keep searching , you'll find the truth one day"< by which they mean their truth Wink Wink

so whilst they have good message to sell, they are blind to all other messages.
my impression is that asia , in particular, will change christianity .
the asians have always been able to accomodate polytheism. at the very least, respect for ancestors (as expressed in china) will probably need to be incorporated into christianity.
and some of the buddhist teachings about love for animals and the environment will also need to be incorporated.

its a shame jesus never spoke on animal welfare or the environment. may have made some of our present tasks a whole lot easier Wink Wink


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Re: HillSux Church the Money Machine
Reply #196 - Feb 24th, 2013 at 7:24am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Feb 23rd, 2013 at 7:25pm:
corporate_whitey wrote on Feb 23rd, 2013 at 7:15pm:
He makes a squillion tax  free in personal profits...you get that if you serve Satan.... Smiley


if i thought he would sue you for defamation just to get your insanity off here Id let him know what you are saying.
but he is too gentlemanly for that.


So the Packers and Murdochs must also follow satan? Bob Hawke is also a millionaire...him too?
And a number of sportspeople will also be in that catergory!! 

STUPID statement with no proof.
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Reply #197 - Feb 24th, 2013 at 7:29am
 
It always amazes me where all the experts come from that know everything about something they have no connection with.

The media has whipped up this frenzy with their part correct and part incorrect report on ACA.

I am still awaiting a response to my questions to them after their "expose" last week.


No connection with Hillsong - not nor have been a member. Just don't like half truths!
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Reply #198 - Feb 24th, 2013 at 7:52am
 
Emma wrote on Feb 23rd, 2013 at 7:56pm:
ahhh but Hillsong devotees like Longone couldn't care less about tomorrow,,  or their eternal soul...  they're all about now... money,  cars,  material values that find no support in the source they claim.... Christianity.

Wake up  ... ordinary devout xtians are bad enough... but at least they are honest...!!



because Ive said anything even remotely like that?  This is the problem with drongos like you. You take a stereotype that has no basis in fact and then use it with abandon. its why your comments on this topic are so worthless. at least some have had the commonsense to recognize that there is a little bit more to do with it that the garbage you spew.
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Re: HillSux Church the Money Machine
Reply #199 - Feb 24th, 2013 at 7:58am
 
damien wrote on Feb 24th, 2013 at 7:29am:
It always amazes me where all the experts come from that know everything about something they have no connection with.

The media has whipped up this frenzy with their part correct and part incorrect report on ACA.

I am still awaiting a response to my questions to them after their "expose" last week.


No connection with Hillsong - not nor have been a member. Just don't like half truths!


its the same old story and I can assure you that Hillsong and Houston are not the slightest bit concerned about it. The fact has always been that faux-journos like ACA and TT always go after controversy and not after fact. They target the successful and influential because like some of the other drongos on here they seem to believe that you can only be successful and wealthy by greed and nefarious methods. To some degree, such attention validates what they are doing because they arent bothering the ancient little church with 20 members all over the age of 70 and affecting society not a jot.
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Re: HillSux Church the Money Machine
Reply #200 - Feb 24th, 2013 at 7:58am
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 23rd, 2013 at 9:05pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 22nd, 2013 at 11:33am:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 22nd, 2013 at 11:07am:
Nail
Quote:
Matthew 6:19

    Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal; but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

Luke 14:33

    Any of you who does not give up everything he has cannot be my disciple.

Matthew 6:24

    No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and Money.

Matthew 19:21

    Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."

Hebrews 13:5

    Keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have, because God has said, "Never will I leave you; never will I forsake you."

Phil 2:3

    Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit, but in humility consider others better than yourselves.

Acts 2:44-45

    All the believers were together and had everything in common. Selling their possessions and goods, they gave to anyone as he had need.



Good quotes Nail,
all in direct contradiction to the prosperity message of Hillsong.



Hi Longweekend,
do you also believe in the prosperity message?


Well folks -
yes he does inspite it being in direct contradiction to all the Bible quotes above.


Longweekend is a hypocrite & is forgiven.

namaste



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Re: HillSux Church the Money Machine
Reply #201 - Feb 24th, 2013 at 8:20am
 
aquascoot wrote on Feb 24th, 2013 at 7:20am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 24th, 2013 at 5:20am:
Quantum wrote on Feb 23rd, 2013 at 12:00pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 23rd, 2013 at 11:51am:
Quantum wrote on Feb 23rd, 2013 at 11:38am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 23rd, 2013 at 5:03am:
Quantum wrote on Feb 22nd, 2013 at 5:07pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 22nd, 2013 at 4:56pm:
Emma wrote on Feb 22nd, 2013 at 3:57pm:
I'm sick of it too.... Quantum you are just as responsible as SOB for these boringly mindless petty disputes...so is longo ..

you do add nothing to a topic ,,,but boring personal garbage....  at least SOB tries to comment,, and as he pointed out ,  YOU  Q, take it on a tangent which has nothing to do with the topic.

I would definitely call you a moron.... a troll,,, and wasted space,,,
Too bad  you and Longo  aren't long gone.  Tongue


 


The thing is that i comment on the topic then
they
start with the attempted abuse and off the topic it goes.
They
are trolls.

SOB


Crying again!

* You comment on the topic (and even then it hardly makes sense)
* someone asks you a question regarding what you said
* you go apeshit accusing people of being trolls and lashing out at you.

You have no interest in discussing anything. The last couple of pages are proof of that. You want to stir shlt and then cry about it. Toughen up pussy.


Liar. I didnt say it was you anyway but if you want to take the blame go for it. Answering a comment with abuse is trolling. You do it. Longy does it and KJT does it. Not just to me either.

Now do you have anything to say on the topic of hillsong?

The catholic church is huge and rich over 100s of years and hillsong did it in a few years. IMO they should be paying tax.

SOB


This is the problem! You say you weren't talking about me. What does "they" refer back to then? Under the rules of English grammar, the "they" must refer back to the people mentioned in the discussion. So when you say "I didnt say it was you anyway" that is bullshit. I was one of the people the "they" was referring to.

You don't understand how to write and then blame others for your stupidity. Grow up you moron.


Well if the shoe fits . . . ..   you are doing it now @ any rate

Nothing to say on topic then?

Go away troll

SOB


You're crying again and you still have nothing to say on topic.

Go away troll.




Just because the "last word" seems to important to you

You didnt comment on the topic so there wasnt anything to respond to troll

SOB



well no, thats unfair, quantum was the first person to respond to my question in a meaningful way.
you dont really ask questions spot, you just post what you believe" dogma" and you never shift your position.
this reflects a closed mind and is also the attribute you most often complain about Cry Cry

on THAT subject, the pentecostals i work with are very very sure of themselves . now its good to have self confidence , but my impression is , it goes beyond this.
they have leant me quite a lot of materials to read.
i have read and listened to quite a lot of stuff by chuck swindoll (insight for living) and i would definitely recommend his cd's

but if you offered them a buddhist text or confuscian text , they would almost explode in arrogant dismissiveness Wink Wink

the main thing they tell me, is "keep searching , you'll find the truth one day"< by which they mean their truth Wink Wink

so whilst they have good message to sell, they are blind to all other messages.
my impression is that asia , in particular, will change christianity .
the asians have always been able to accomodate polytheism. at the very least, respect for ancestors (as expressed in china) will probably need to be incorporated into christianity.
and some of the buddhist teachings about love for animals and the environment will also need to be incorporated.

its a shame jesus never spoke on animal welfare or the environment. may have made some of our present tasks a whole lot easier Wink Wink



Well thats either a flat out lie or you havent been reading my posts.

When have i "complained" about "closed minds"? Seriously? Why the abuse?  Ahh you are showing quantum how to do it by actually posting on topic AFTER you try to make me mad. Nasty lil troll you are.

If jesus had spoken on animal welfare it would just be reinterpreted to mean animals except this animal and that animal anyway.

SOB
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Re: HillSux Church the Money Machine
Reply #202 - Feb 24th, 2013 at 8:34am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 24th, 2013 at 8:20am:
aquascoot wrote on Feb 24th, 2013 at 7:20am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 24th, 2013 at 5:20am:
Quantum wrote on Feb 23rd, 2013 at 12:00pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 23rd, 2013 at 11:51am:
Quantum wrote on Feb 23rd, 2013 at 11:38am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 23rd, 2013 at 5:03am:
Quantum wrote on Feb 22nd, 2013 at 5:07pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 22nd, 2013 at 4:56pm:
Emma wrote on Feb 22nd, 2013 at 3:57pm:
I'm sick of it too.... Quantum you are just as responsible as SOB for these boringly mindless petty disputes...so is longo ..

you do add nothing to a topic ,,,but boring personal garbage....  at least SOB tries to comment,, and as he pointed out ,  YOU  Q, take it on a tangent which has nothing to do with the topic.

I would definitely call you a moron.... a troll,,, and wasted space,,,
Too bad  you and Longo  aren't long gone.  Tongue


 


The thing is that i comment on the topic then
they
start with the attempted abuse and off the topic it goes.
They
are trolls.

SOB


Crying again!

* You comment on the topic (and even then it hardly makes sense)
* someone asks you a question regarding what you said
* you go apeshit accusing people of being trolls and lashing out at you.

You have no interest in discussing anything. The last couple of pages are proof of that. You want to stir shlt and then cry about it. Toughen up pussy.


Liar. I didnt say it was you anyway but if you want to take the blame go for it. Answering a comment with abuse is trolling. You do it. Longy does it and KJT does it. Not just to me either.

Now do you have anything to say on the topic of hillsong?

The catholic church is huge and rich over 100s of years and hillsong did it in a few years. IMO they should be paying tax.

SOB


This is the problem! You say you weren't talking about me. What does "they" refer back to then? Under the rules of English grammar, the "they" must refer back to the people mentioned in the discussion. So when you say "I didnt say it was you anyway" that is bullshit. I was one of the people the "they" was referring to.

You don't understand how to write and then blame others for your stupidity. Grow up you moron.


Well if the shoe fits . . . ..   you are doing it now @ any rate

Nothing to say on topic then?

Go away troll

SOB


You're crying again and you still have nothing to say on topic.

Go away troll.




Just because the "last word" seems to important to you

You didnt comment on the topic so there wasnt anything to respond to troll

SOB



well no, thats unfair, quantum was the first person to respond to my question in a meaningful way.
you dont really ask questions spot, you just post what you believe" dogma" and you never shift your position.
this reflects a closed mind and is also the attribute you most often complain about Cry Cry

on THAT subject, the pentecostals i work with are very very sure of themselves . now its good to have self confidence , but my impression is , it goes beyond this.
they have leant me quite a lot of materials to read.
i have read and listened to quite a lot of stuff by chuck swindoll (insight for living) and i would definitely recommend his cd's

but if you offered them a buddhist text or confuscian text , they would almost explode in arrogant dismissiveness Wink Wink

the main thing they tell me, is "keep searching , you'll find the truth one day"< by which they mean their truth Wink Wink

so whilst they have good message to sell, they are blind to all other messages.
my impression is that asia , in particular, will change christianity .
the asians have always been able to accomodate polytheism. at the very least, respect for ancestors (as expressed in china) will probably need to be incorporated into christianity.
and some of the buddhist teachings about love for animals and the environment will also need to be incorporated.

its a shame jesus never spoke on animal welfare or the environment. may have made some of our present tasks a whole lot easier Wink Wink



Well thats either a flat out lie or you havent been reading my posts.

When have i "complained" about "closed minds"? Seriously? Why the abuse?  Ahh you are showing quantum how to do it by actually posting on topic AFTER you try to make me mad. Nasty lil troll you are.

If jesus had spoken on animal welfare it would just be reinterpreted to mean animals except this animal and that animal anyway.

SOB


its still early sunday morning spot,
you can make it to hillsong and do some genuine research if you hurry.
then report back
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Re: HillSux Church the Money Machine
Reply #203 - Feb 24th, 2013 at 10:00am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Feb 24th, 2013 at 7:58am:
damien wrote on Feb 24th, 2013 at 7:29am:
It always amazes me where all the experts come from that know everything about something they have no connection with.

The media has whipped up this frenzy with their part correct and part incorrect report on ACA.

I am still awaiting a response to my questions to them after their "expose" last week.


No connection with Hillsong - not nor have been a member. Just don't like half truths!


its the same old story and I can assure you that Hillsong and Houston are not the slightest bit concerned about it. The fact has always been that faux-journos like ACA and TT always go after controversy and not after fact. They target the successful and influential because like some of the other drongos on here they seem to believe that you can only be successful and wealthy by greed and nefarious methods. To some degree, such attention validates what they are doing because they arent bothering the ancient little church with 20 members all over the age of 70 and affecting society not a jot.


If you would bother to watch the report you would see most of the ground work was done by a journo from the Australian newspaper.

Why don't you watch it instead of adding your bullshit to everything.
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Reply #204 - Feb 24th, 2013 at 10:21am
 
aquascoot wrote on Feb 24th, 2013 at 8:34am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 24th, 2013 at 8:20am:
aquascoot wrote on Feb 24th, 2013 at 7:20am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 24th, 2013 at 5:20am:
Quantum wrote on Feb 23rd, 2013 at 12:00pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 23rd, 2013 at 11:51am:
Quantum wrote on Feb 23rd, 2013 at 11:38am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 23rd, 2013 at 5:03am:
Quantum wrote on Feb 22nd, 2013 at 5:07pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 22nd, 2013 at 4:56pm:
Emma wrote on Feb 22nd, 2013 at 3:57pm:
I'm sick of it too.... Quantum you are just as responsible as SOB for these boringly mindless petty disputes...so is longo ..

you do add nothing to a topic ,,,but boring personal garbage....  at least SOB tries to comment,, and as he pointed out ,  YOU  Q, take it on a tangent which has nothing to do with the topic.

I would definitely call you a moron.... a troll,,, and wasted space,,,
Too bad  you and Longo  aren't long gone.  Tongue


 


The thing is that i comment on the topic then
they
start with the attempted abuse and off the topic it goes.
They
are trolls.

SOB


Crying again!

* You comment on the topic (and even then it hardly makes sense)
* someone asks you a question regarding what you said
* you go apeshit accusing people of being trolls and lashing out at you.

You have no interest in discussing anything. The last couple of pages are proof of that. You want to stir shlt and then cry about it. Toughen up pussy.


Liar. I didnt say it was you anyway but if you want to take the blame go for it. Answering a comment with abuse is trolling. You do it. Longy does it and KJT does it. Not just to me either.

Now do you have anything to say on the topic of hillsong?

The catholic church is huge and rich over 100s of years and hillsong did it in a few years. IMO they should be paying tax.

SOB


This is the problem! You say you weren't talking about me. What does "they" refer back to then? Under the rules of English grammar, the "they" must refer back to the people mentioned in the discussion. So when you say "I didnt say it was you anyway" that is bullshit. I was one of the people the "they" was referring to.

You don't understand how to write and then blame others for your stupidity. Grow up you moron.


Well if the shoe fits . . . ..   you are doing it now @ any rate

Nothing to say on topic then?

Go away troll

SOB


You're crying again and you still have nothing to say on topic.

Go away troll.




Just because the "last word" seems to important to you

You didnt comment on the topic so there wasnt anything to respond to troll

SOB



well no, thats unfair, quantum was the first person to respond to my question in a meaningful way.
you dont really ask questions spot, you just post what you believe" dogma" and you never shift your position.
this reflects a closed mind and is also the attribute you most often complain about Cry Cry

on THAT subject, the pentecostals i work with are very very sure of themselves . now its good to have self confidence , but my impression is , it goes beyond this.
they have leant me quite a lot of materials to read.
i have read and listened to quite a lot of stuff by chuck swindoll (insight for living) and i would definitely recommend his cd's

but if you offered them a buddhist text or confuscian text , they would almost explode in arrogant dismissiveness Wink Wink

the main thing they tell me, is "keep searching , you'll find the truth one day"< by which they mean their truth Wink Wink

so whilst they have good message to sell, they are blind to all other messages.
my impression is that asia , in particular, will change christianity .
the asians have always been able to accomodate polytheism. at the very least, respect for ancestors (as expressed in china) will probably need to be incorporated into christianity.
and some of the buddhist teachings about love for animals and the environment will also need to be incorporated.

its a shame jesus never spoke on animal welfare or the environment. may have made some of our present tasks a whole lot easier Wink Wink



Well thats either a flat out lie or you havent been reading my posts.

When have i "complained" about "closed minds"? Seriously? Why the abuse?  Ahh you are showing quantum how to do it by actually posting on topic AFTER you try to make me mad. Nasty lil troll you are.

If jesus had spoken on animal welfare it would just be reinterpreted to mean animals except this animal and that animal anyway.

SOB


its still early sunday morning spot,
you can make it to hillsong and do some genuine research if you hurry.
then report back


How exactly would going to hillsong help any research on what jesus didnt say about animal rights?

SOB
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Reply #205 - Feb 24th, 2013 at 10:28am
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 22nd, 2013 at 9:49am:
Hillsong believes in the prosperity message -

that means that it doesn't matter if some kid in Africa is dying in the street while covered in flies -

God cares about whether you will get a new car - your prosperity.



Some religious groups believe that prosperity in life is an indication of God's pleasure and is a good indication of whether one is destined for heaven. Weber believed that capitalism evolved because of the Protestant work ethic, which is based on that belief.
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Reply #206 - Feb 24th, 2013 at 10:35am
 
religion is creepy. people who go to these churches and fork over their money to these con artists should get lives and start having fun instead of fussing over some unfalsifiable, unprovable and improbable god.
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Reply #207 - Feb 24th, 2013 at 10:44am
 
The problem comes back to sin and unbelief and this is what I  will  always  come back to, you must repent of your sins and fear the wrath of God... Cool
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corporate_whitey wrote on Feb 24th, 2013 at 10:44am:
The problem comes back to sin and unbelief and this is what I  will  always  come back to, you must repent of your sins and fear the wrath of God... Cool


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I can't help but feel a certain kind of respect for conmen who have found such a good scam.
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