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Reply #300 - Feb 26th, 2013 at 12:04am
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 25th, 2013 at 11:36pm:
Emma wrote on Feb 25th, 2013 at 11:25pm:
fearful of what ? Gizmoid?

well perhaps you were... just like I used your argument against you..

...fearful  of  ??? 

being all alone in your head, in this best of all possible worlds, without a crutch of faith which allows you to breast the waves of doubt insecurity and fear... 

why else would anyone choose to have faith in some amorphic diety,  that gives you all the answers... or at  least... hope.??



LOL, I'm not alone in my head..the voices keep me company.

Seriously, I think you may have mistaken me for someone with some form of religious 'faith'......and you're wrong, I've been an atheist (but different to the nails type) for about 35 or so years.


you're not an atheist at all. Most of your posts you spend defending irrational religious dogma with a particlar bent for defending the Catholic institution.
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In August 2021, Newcastle Coroner Karen Dilks recorded that Lisa Shaw had died “due to complications of an AstraZeneca COVID vaccination”.
 
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Reply #301 - Feb 26th, 2013 at 12:07am
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 26th, 2013 at 12:04am:
Emma wrote on Feb 25th, 2013 at 11:59pm:
Gizmo?? 

I play the devils advocate as well... sometimes...  but ..  ?? 

oh I don't know..   why stir up religious crap??  I answer 'cos someone should... this is probbaly not the wisest path to take when discussing religion...if we MUST. 

I do it, because I think the people of the world should have outgrown this old stuff by now. You know...wised up?? :(


Why? Humans have been making up spirits, gods, demons, devils etc for longer than they've been making fire..

Maybe after the next couple of evolutionary shifts, we'll gow out of it, but probably not before..


WTF ?

Why should we wait for an evolutionary change to out grow out of something for which we know is not true !!

I mean we didn't have to wait for an evolutionary change to know that the earth was not the center of the universe when until recently that was the stand the catholic church was making Sad

and somehow along the way science has revealed the mis-truths
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In August 2021, Newcastle Coroner Karen Dilks recorded that Lisa Shaw had died “due to complications of an AstraZeneca COVID vaccination”.
 
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Reply #302 - Feb 26th, 2013 at 12:07am
 
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"I just get sick of people who place a label on someone else with their own definition.

It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Reply #303 - Feb 26th, 2013 at 12:13am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 26th, 2013 at 12:04am:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 25th, 2013 at 11:36pm:
Emma wrote on Feb 25th, 2013 at 11:25pm:
fearful of what ? Gizmoid?

well perhaps you were... just like I used your argument against you..

...fearful  of  ??? 

being all alone in your head, in this best of all possible worlds, without a crutch of faith which allows you to breast the waves of doubt insecurity and fear... 

why else would anyone choose to have faith in some amorphic diety,  that gives you all the answers... or at  least... hope.??



LOL, I'm not alone in my head..the voices keep me company.

Seriously, I think you may have mistaken me for someone with some form of religious 'faith'......and you're wrong, I've been an atheist (but different to the nails type) for about 35 or so years.


you're not an atheist at all. Most of your posts you spend defending irrational religious dogma with a particlar bent for defending the Catholic institution.


Yes I am nails...
I 'defend' religious dogma, as you put it from attacks like yours that contain even more bullshit than the religions do...all that stuff from evilbible.com is worse than the crap the JWs spout.
And yes, i do sometimes support the Catholics from bulshit accusations, they do enough real stuff that you could complain about, without making crap up.
No point to lying about it, because you don't understand what they actually do...

Basically, I'm not religious, but I won't tell someone else not to be...what ever belief helps them get out of bed in the morning is fine by me..
I'm not gay, but I support gay marriage etc..same sort of thing.
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"I just get sick of people who place a label on someone else with their own definition.

It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Reply #304 - Feb 26th, 2013 at 12:18am
 
this is the Age of Technology.. not the Dark Ages....

so.. you think humans are forever doomed to this???
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Reply #305 - Feb 26th, 2013 at 12:22am
 
ahh  Gizmoid... 
And yes, i do sometimes support the Catholics from bulshit accusations, they do enough real stuff that you could complain about, without making crap up.
No point to lying about it, because you don't understand what they actually do...


one can only assume you are a lapsed Catholic...   as such you claiming to be an atheist is just so much self-delusion... we don't believe you...

you are a supporter of 'church'. Tongue
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Reply #306 - Feb 26th, 2013 at 12:28am
 
'You're not an atheist! You are not biased against religion and you don't spend all your time speaking crap about it. How could you possibly be an atheist? '

Heaven forbid that an atheist be reasonable and have a personal opinion that doesn't require them to scream abuse at anything even remotely religious.

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Reply #307 - Feb 26th, 2013 at 12:28am
 
Emma wrote on Feb 26th, 2013 at 12:22am:
ahh  Gizmoid... 
And yes, i do sometimes support the Catholics from bulshit accusations, they do enough real stuff that you could complain about, without making crap up.
No point to lying about it, because you don't understand what they actually do...


one can only assume you are a lapsed Catholic...   as such you claiming to be an atheist is just so much self-delusion... we don't believe you...

you are a supporter of 'church'. Tongue


No, I'm not a supporter, I was a Catholic when I was a kid, the parish priest requested my absence from mass when I was 10, my primary school scripture teacher told m mother I was the offspring of the devil, and nails good mate Brian Houston thought I was beelzebub.
I haven't been into a church other than for weddings, christenings or funerals since about 1976. Most of the Church's problems are simply that they think it's still 1650, the Church itself isn't actually evil (although some of the people involved might be), it's just a bit stupid.
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"I just get sick of people who place a label on someone else with their own definition.

It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Reply #308 - Feb 26th, 2013 at 12:29am
 
they do enough real stuff that you could complain about, without making crap up.
No point to lying about it, because you don't understand what they actually do...

- Gizmo


So  this is sounding really disturbing... you say they do enough really bad stuff,  that making it up is unnecessary>??
You must understand then,  what they REALLY do, that is heinous.. 

I know there are many young men, and women,  who could tell us their experiences...  yet... it seems they still have you in their clutches...
you should take steps to clear your mind my friend.... no-one 'deserves' this sort of treatment.. and NO ONE need feel guilty for honesty.


Big step ... take it.!!


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Reply #309 - Feb 26th, 2013 at 12:40am
 
Emma wrote on Feb 26th, 2013 at 12:29am:
they do enough real stuff that you could complain about, without making crap up.
No point to lying about it, because you don't understand what they actually do...

- Gizmo


So  this is sounding really disturbing... you say they do enough really bad stuff,  that making it up is unnecessary>??
You must understand then,  what they REALLY do, that is heinous.. 

I know there are many young men, and women,  who could tell us their experiences...  yet... it seems they still have you in their clutches...
you should take steps to clear your mind my friend.... no-one 'deserves' this sort of treatment.. and NO ONE need feel guilty for honesty.


Big step ... take it.!!




LOL boy, you really do like reading more into things than are there don't you Emma??

I was referring to the stances on gays, gay marriage, contraception, abortion, divorce, mixed marriages (between Catholics and Non-Catholics) and little stuff like that...boring and not as much fun as institutionalised paedophilia, World domination, child sacrifice and all that juicy stuff.
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"I just get sick of people who place a label on someone else with their own definition.

It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Reply #310 - Feb 26th, 2013 at 12:48am
 
ahh .. Gizmo....

"...as institutionalised paedophilia, World domination, child sacrifice and all that juicy stuff. "

... you know the truth.. 
accept it and move on.

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Reply #311 - Feb 26th, 2013 at 12:52am
 
Emma wrote on Feb 26th, 2013 at 12:48am:
ahh .. Gizmo....

"...as institutionalised paedophilia, World domination, child sacrifice and all that juicy stuff. "

... you know the truth.. 
accept it and move on.



Yes Emma, i DO know the truth...and that isn't it..
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"I just get sick of people who place a label on someone else with their own definition.

It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Reply #312 - Feb 26th, 2013 at 12:54am
 
Quantum wrote on Feb 26th, 2013 at 12:28am:
'You're not an atheist! You are not biased against religion and you don't spend all your time speaking crap about it. How could you possibly be an atheist? '

Heaven forbid that an atheist be reasonable and have a personal opinion that doesn't require them to scream abuse at anything even remotely religious.




Jazza ...link...   I confess  Grin Grin haven't seen this on the topic... 

I agree totally/   atheists oughtn't be biased against religion...  nor rail against it....   it is after all , not real//

     do you consider I am screaming abuse?   ... I hope not.. that is not my intent..  I am trying to be dispassionate...  compassionate...
empathic... 




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Reply #313 - Feb 26th, 2013 at 12:58am
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 26th, 2013 at 12:52am:
Emma wrote on Feb 26th, 2013 at 12:48am:
ahh .. Gizmo....

"...as institutionalised paedophilia, World domination, child sacrifice and all that juicy stuff. "

... you know the truth.. 
accept it and move on.



Yes Emma, i DO know the truth...and that isn't it..


So WHAT is the truth,  my friend.??
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Reply #314 - Feb 26th, 2013 at 1:01am
 
you also said

Most of the Church's problems are simply that they think it's still 1650, the Church itself isn't actually evil (although some of the people involved might be), it's just a bit stupid.


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