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Mr Conservative Junior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 92 Gender:	Re: Assange’s senate seat a possible path to freedom Reply #15 - Feb 28^th, 2013 at 4:40pm The guy is delusional but credit where credits due he certainly knows how to score pussy. He has as much chance of being elected as Bob Brown giving up hairy ass.
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Reply #16 - Mar 1^st, 2013 at 10:05am

Quantum wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 1:27pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 12:41pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 12:36pm:

Assange will almost certainly not get enough votes to get elected - even if he is allowed to stand (and thats still a big if).

And then even if he does get elected, I can't imagine how he could get his way to Australia to take his seat. Then if he is absent from parliament for long enough, his seat will be declared vacant, and someone else will have to replace him.

In short, Assange's senate bid is a non-starter.

Why would he not be able to stand ?

Once elected he can simply walk out of the embassy and catch a plane, claiming diplomatic emunity.

Assange contesting a senate seat is a great chance for supporters of freedom to voice their opinion. He'll get an avanlanche of votes. Hes one of those people who polarises views. Many hate him, many love him.

Firstly, being in politics does not automatically give someone diplomatic immunity. There is no way assange is going to walk out on to the London streets and be immune from the police waiting for him.

Secondly, even if Assange was given immunity, that does not mean he can walk back into Australia without consequences. If a real Australian diplomat was to commit a crime in a foreign nation they can still be trialled in an Australian court when they get home. Diplomatic immunity is not a license to do what ever you want overseas.

With the rape accusation, the skipping bail, plus the people who put the money up who are seeking compensation, assange is going to be fighting the law for years to come. He will never sit in the senate

Considering that Australia is a British colony and American puppet the chances of letting Assange out are very slim.

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Innocent bystander Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4220 Gender:	Re: Assange’s senate seat a possible path to freedom Reply #17 - Mar 4^th, 2013 at 1:04pm Is this assange rapist still holed up in the Ecuadorian dictators embassy?, is he going to spend the rest of his life there?, sh#t I would have just gone the suspended sentence and be done with it if I was him, anyone knows that a modern western enlightened society will give a rapist a break.
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Reply #18 - Mar 31^st, 2013 at 10:30am

I vote for truth!

Woohoo!!! for truth, transparency and democracy. My cheque is in the mail.

It was a toss up between Wikileaks and the Pirate Party, both left leaning and down to earth.

Assange's WikiLeaks Party opens for membership in Australia

Julian Assange’s new political party is open for membership, WikiLeaks announced on Twitter on Saturday. The party must enlist 500 dues-paying members to officially register with the Australian Electoral Commission.

The WikiLeaks party was created as part of Assange’s bid to become an Australian senator in September 2013 elections in Victoria State. At the moment the party has an initial 10-member national council, consisting of supporters and close associates of Assange and pro-WikiLeaks activists, but it also has to attract 500 fee-paying members required to be registered.

The Twitter post calling on Australians to join the WikiLeaks party suggests its newly-created website is still being tested, although an online membership form is already available.

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Reply #19 - Mar 31^st, 2013 at 10:37am

Not only is Australia NOT a sovereign State, it has essentially come under the control of the USA - militarily and diplomatically we follow the US fascist trail around the world

The So Called Australian mining and energy resource sector is 83% foreign owned and 55% of this is under the control of US multinational corporations.

If there is a dumber nation on this planet than AUstralia I would like to know which country that is

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Reply #20 - Mar 31^st, 2013 at 10:46am

Mr Conservative wrote on Feb 28^th, 2013 at 4:40pm:

The guy is delusional but credit where credits due he certainly knows how to score pussy. He has as much chance of being elected as Bob Brown giving up hairy ass. Wink

Really?

Obvioulsy you don't understand how the Australian voting system works - especially with regards to the Senate.

To be elected for the Senate you don't require a 50% plus majority.

In fact roughly 10% of the vote will get you a Senate seat.

Senate seats are allocated on a State basis. For example there may be 12 seats for Victoria and there could be 70 candidates. THe top 12 vote getters are elected as senators. SO you could get, the top candidate with 70% of the vote, and the next 69 candidates sharing the remaining 30% of the vote. You could theoretically get 1% of the vote and be elected as senator.

The Senate voting system works in a different way to the House of representatives where 50% of the vote is needed on preferences.

So if Assange ran for the Australian Senate he would stroll into the Australian senate without any difficulty at all - that's why he chose the Senate rather than an individual seat where he would need 50% of the vote.

In fact Assange could run several Wikileaks senators across Australia - I can see at least two Wikiliaks senators being voted in from each major state in AUstralia

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Reply #21 - Mar 31^st, 2013 at 10:55am

So if Assange ran for the Australian Senate he would stroll into the Australian senate without any difficulty at all -

Anything's possible. Plenty of people are sick to death of the lieing riff raff of the major parties.

Assange has a huge following, not just in Australia but around the world.

Believe it or not, but a lot of people like to see corruption exposed.

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Reply #22 - Mar 31^st, 2013 at 11:04am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 10:55am:

So if Assange ran for the Australian Senate he would stroll into the Australian senate without any difficulty at all -

Anything's possible. Plenty of people are sick to death of the lieing riff raff of the major parties.

Assange has a huge following, not just in Australia but around the world.

Believe it or not, but a lot of people like to see corruption exposed.

Only talking about the senate electoral process where you don't need 50% of the vote. Typically about 10 to 15% of the vote gets you a senate seat - sometimes even lower

Assange chose the Senate for very good reason, He can get an entire State of Australia behind him. There are many young people who vote and sympathise with him, and as you say MANY angry and frustrated voters at both major parties

Assange would easily snatch 30% of the vote - and that would give his Wikileaks party 2 or 3 senate seats - just in one state

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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: Assange’s senate seat a possible path to freedom Reply #23 - Mar 31^st, 2013 at 11:10am Not only do you know very little about the Senate voting system but you are given to flights of fantasy if you assume Assange could attract 30% of the vote. Get off the pot, get educated and get a job Mr Chimp.
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Reply #24 - Mar 31^st, 2013 at 11:13am

Chimp_Logic wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 11:04am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 10:55am:

So if Assange ran for the Australian Senate he would stroll into the Australian senate without any difficulty at all -

Anything's possible. Plenty of people are sick to death of the lieing riff raff of the major parties.

Assange has a huge following, not just in Australia but around the world.

Believe it or not, but a lot of people like to see corruption exposed.

Only talking about the senate electoral process where you don't need 50% of the vote. Typically about 10 to 15% of the vote gets you a senate seat - sometimes even lower

Assange chose the Senate for very good reason, He can get an entire State of Australia behind him. There are many young people who vote and sympathise with him, and as you say MANY angry and frustrated voters at both major parties

Assange would easily snatch 30% of the vote - and that would give his Wikileaks party 2 or 3 senate seats - just in one state

OMG imagine having Wikileaks people in the senate.

Abbott would be punching walls.

They'd be painted as loonies like Nick Xenophon, remember that kookoo bloke who wanted to do something about problem gambling......how dare he lol

It would be a brave person who puts their hand up, knowing that every tiny bit of their history would be under the microscope.

This should be interesting, may the Wikileaks Party have a fruitful election year.

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Reply #25 - Mar 31^st, 2013 at 11:32am

pansi,

Remember that Senator Fielding from the Family first party?

The man who was a qualified engineer but a fanatical creationist - so the world according to Fielding is less than 10,000 years old and evolutionary biology is a load of scientific rubbish because it kind of violates the Book of Genesis

Fielding didn't need many votes at all to get a Senate seat. In fact, the Family first party generally attracted about 2 to 5% of the primary vote nationally

I think Assange will go much better than Family first

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Chimp_Logic Gold Member Offline πολιτικός Posts: 4826 Mawson Base Gender:	Re: Assange’s senate seat a possible path to freedom Reply #26 - Mar 31^st, 2013 at 11:46am In the 2010 Senate elections, we saw the Greens pick up 9 senate seats with about 14% of the vote. The DLP picked up ONE senate seat with just 1.1% of the vote. I can see not only Assange getting a Senate seat, but maybe 2 or 3 others who run with him, if they ran a strong campaign in 2013
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Reply #27 - Mar 31^st, 2013 at 12:11pm

ATHOS SAID:

Considering that Australia is a British colony and American puppet the chances of letting Assange out are very slim.

The Yanks also said that the chances of NOT finding WMDs in Iraq were very slim - even though they lied about Iraq having them.

6 trillion dollar tax payer price tag,
4000 US soldier deaths plus 50,000+ injuries
1.42 million Iraqi civilian deaths

93% of Iraqi oil is currently in the hands of US corporations
Largest US embassy in the world in Bagdad - housing over 14,000 personnel in 600+ buildings. A bit of an overkill don't you think, just to renew passports for lost US backpackers travelling in IRaq

Mission accomplished

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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: Assange’s senate seat a possible path to freedom Reply #28 - Mar 31^st, 2013 at 12:50pm It speaks volumes for the culture of the younger generations that they put their faith in a creature like Assange. Wake up, look at his speeches to the faithful from his balcony, see him for what he is, a parody of a third world dictator.
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Chimp_Logic Gold Member Offline πολιτικός Posts: 4826 Mawson Base Gender:	Re: Assange’s senate seat a possible path to freedom Reply #29 - Mar 31^st, 2013 at 12:53pm pansi, have you picked up the enormous putrid stench that has wafted in here all of a sudden? what the hell is that cowardly foul smelling odour? who could have brought this Satanic fume into this place of worship I wonder?
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