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Rider Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2669 OnTheRoad Gender:	Re: If Rudd becomes leader, who becomes treasuer Reply #15 - Feb 19^th, 2013 at 1:09pm No matter what Rudd does, Joe Hockey will be Treasurer
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75131 Gender:	Re: If Rudd becomes leader, who becomes treasuer Reply #16 - Feb 19^th, 2013 at 1:12pm Rider wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 1:09pm: No matter what Rudd does, Joe Hockey will be Treasurer what a disaster that will be.
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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: If Rudd becomes leader, who becomes treasuer Reply #17 - Feb 19^th, 2013 at 1:17pm polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 12:44pm: can you name a single treasurer in the history of the federal parliament who has been from the senate? There's been a PM...
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Reply #18 - Feb 19^th, 2013 at 1:26pm

Swagman wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 1:17pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 12:44pm:

can you name a single treasurer in the history of the federal parliament who has been from the senate?

There's been a PM...

Yes, I actually forgot that. Embarrassed

There's nothing stopping the PM and/or Treasurer from sitting in the Senate.

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Reply #19 - Feb 19^th, 2013 at 1:27pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 12:32pm:

Maqqa wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 12:28pm:

WHEN Rudd assume ALP leadership role - in opposition Labor's Shadow Treasurer is probably Wong

no. The treasurer will never be from the upper house.

I don't think there has been one (yet)...but

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There is nothing to prevent a treasurer being chosen from outside Parliament. True, treasurers have always been members of the House of Representatives, but there is nothing in the constitution that specifies this must be the case.

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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: If Rudd becomes leader, who becomes treasuer Reply #20 - Feb 19^th, 2013 at 1:30pm ...that's a loop hole. The Govt can appoint anyone as a senator and then make them the PM....? Maybe Julia will give Timmy the job? He a hairdresser. He must have filled in a few BAS statements maybe...
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Reply #21 - Feb 19^th, 2013 at 2:26pm

Swagman wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 1:30pm:

...that's a loop hole. The Govt can appoint anyone as a senator and then make them the PM....? Shocked

Maybe Julia will give Timmy the job? He a hairdresser. He must have filled in a few BAS statements maybe... Grin

"Some of the central features of Australia’s system of government (described as parliamentary, cabinet or responsible government and also called a Westminster-style system) are not set down in the Constitution but are based on custom and convention. These include the position of Prime Minister and the group of senior Ministers called the Cabinet, who make major policy and administrative decisions and in effect govern the country."

http://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/House_of_Representatives/Powers_practice_...

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Reply #22 - Feb 19^th, 2013 at 3:16pm

Doctor Jolly wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 12:06pm:

If Rudd were to sweep into power (just saying), Swans hold as treasurer is untenable.

I wonder who would team up with Rudd to take the treasurer role.

This, in my opinion, is Rudd's primary weakness. He doesnt have a high profile running mate.

Eddie Obeid. He knows how to create a surplus.

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Reply #23 - Feb 19^th, 2013 at 3:29pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 1:12pm:

Rider wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 1:09pm:

No matter what Rudd does, Joe Hockey will be Treasurer Grin

what a disaster that will be.

What do you base this on? You may well be correct, he may well be a disaster, but surely someone actually has to be in the role before you can critically make this assessment?

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Reply #24 - Feb 19^th, 2013 at 3:35pm

Swagman wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 1:27pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 12:32pm:

Maqqa wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 12:28pm:

WHEN Rudd assume ALP leadership role - in opposition Labor's Shadow Treasurer is probably Wong

no. The treasurer will never be from the upper house.

I don't think there has been one (yet)...but

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There is nothing to prevent a treasurer being chosen from outside Parliament. True, treasurers have always been members of the House of Representatives, but there is nothing in the constitution that specifies this must be the case.

John Gorton was still in the senate when he became PM, so it has already happened. The fact he joined the HOR after that is irelivent, there is nothing in the constitution that says a PM must be from the HORs, in fact the PM is not even mentioned in the constitution. Which leads me to this, LAbor are in all sorts of sh it and don't want to go back to Rudd but Gillard is losing votes by the day, could they come to a compromise position ? Bob Carr? I have always been under the impression the NSW right lobbied for Carr for that senate vacancy and foreign minister as a backup plan should Gillard fail, now is the time to use him, he would have six months to turn it around.

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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: If Rudd becomes leader, who becomes treasuer Reply #25 - Feb 19^th, 2013 at 4:02pm Bob Carr? Interesting theory. Labor would win zero seats in NSW if they install him though...
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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: If Rudd becomes leader, who becomes treasuer Reply #26 - Feb 19^th, 2013 at 4:27pm How about Robbie Waterhouse? Even a bookmaker would be preferable to that bozo Swann.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 139295 Gender:	Re: If Rudd becomes leader, who becomes treasuer Reply #27 - Feb 19^th, 2013 at 4:39pm The ALP desperately need to pick up some seats in WA. A Smith/Shorten ticket would probably work better for them. A Prime Minister from Narrogin! I'd like to see that
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Reply #28 - Feb 19^th, 2013 at 4:47pm

Swagman wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 12:19pm:

David Bradbury is the Assistant Treasurer but as the MP for Lindsay he might be out of a job come Sept 14.

He was also promoted after Rudd got knifed for the second time suggesting he's a Gillard lackey.... Huh

i thought that guy was our gold medal winning ice skater.
then again, they did recruit kneebone, Wink

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Reply #29 - Feb 19^th, 2013 at 4:56pm

aquascoot wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 4:47pm:

Swagman wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 12:19pm:

David Bradbury is the Assistant Treasurer but as the MP for Lindsay he might be out of a job come Sept 14.

He was also promoted after Rudd got knifed for the second time suggesting he's a Gillard lackey.... Huh

i thought that guy was our gold medal winning ice skater.
then again, they did recruit kneebone, Wink

I thought he was a fiction writer.

Undecided

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