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Reply #90 - Mar 6th, 2013 at 12:21pm
 
I am forced to practice celibacy as girls can't handle 15 inches. Cry
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Reply #91 - Mar 6th, 2013 at 1:05pm
 
Mr Conservative wrote on Mar 6th, 2013 at 12:21pm:
I am forced to practice celibacy as girls can't handle 15 inches. Cry



Women can.



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Reply #92 - Mar 6th, 2013 at 1:08pm
 
Damn that was my only excuse to maintain my pride. Cry
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Reply #93 - Mar 6th, 2013 at 1:09pm
 
Mr Conservative wrote on Mar 6th, 2013 at 1:08pm:
Damn that was my only excuse to maintain my pride. Cry



Stay away from girls and feed the 15 inches to women.

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Reply #94 - Mar 6th, 2013 at 1:14pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 6th, 2013 at 12:01pm:
I am not talking about the dictionary definition im talking about the catholic and religious definition since thats the topic. So i take it you cant back up what you say since you didnt?

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No, you are misreading what they are saying. No one in the catholic church says it is wrong for a priest to get married but okay to have sex. This is your misunderstanding. The Wiki page you quoted is correct, you just don't know what it actually says.

Since you love wikipedia so much;

"the Church does teach that sexual intercourse outside of marriage is contrary to its purpose."
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Reply #95 - Mar 6th, 2013 at 9:52pm
 
sorry sob but celibacy does mean ..'.no sexual relations'  ...that is the commonly accepted definition...  'marriage' has nothing to do with celibacy..altho I'd expect ONLY 2 celibate people would choose to marry each and not have sex..   Smiley
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Reply #96 - Mar 7th, 2013 at 5:01am
 
Quantum wrote on Mar 6th, 2013 at 1:14pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 6th, 2013 at 12:01pm:
I am not talking about the dictionary definition im talking about the catholic and religious definition since thats the topic. So i take it you cant back up what you say since you didnt?

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No, you are misreading what they are saying. No one in the catholic church says it is wrong for a priest to get married but okay to have sex. This is your misunderstanding. The Wiki page you quoted is correct, you just don't know what it actually says.

Since you love wikipedia so much;

"the Church does teach that sexual intercourse outside of marriage is contrary to its purpose."


Nope. You must be. If you had evidence to the contrary you would have posted it.

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In this context, "celibacy" retains its original meaning of "unmarried". Though even the married may observe continence, abstaining from sexual intercourse, the obligation to be celibate is seen as a consequence of the obligation to observe perfect and perpetual continence for the sake of the Kingdom of heaven.[1] Advocates see clerical celibacy as "a special gift of God by which sacred ministers can more easily remain close to Christ with an undivided heart, and can dedicate themselves more freely to the service of God and their neighbour."[1]


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Reply #97 - Mar 7th, 2013 at 5:04am
 
Emma wrote on Mar 6th, 2013 at 9:52pm:
sorry sob but celibacy does mean ..'.no sexual relations'  ...that is the commonly accepted definition...  'marriage' has nothing to do with celibacy..altho I'd expect ONLY 2 celibate people would choose to marry each and not have sex..   Smiley


I know what the common meaning that ppl understand it to mean is but im talking about the church.

This from the catholic encyclopedia

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03481a.htm

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Celibacy is the renunciation of marriage implicitly or explicitly made, for the more perfect observance of chastity, by all those who receive the Sacrament of Orders in any of the higher grades.


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Reply #98 - Mar 7th, 2013 at 8:55am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 7th, 2013 at 5:01am:
Quantum wrote on Mar 6th, 2013 at 1:14pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 6th, 2013 at 12:01pm:
I am not talking about the dictionary definition im talking about the catholic and religious definition since thats the topic. So i take it you cant back up what you say since you didnt?

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No, you are misreading what they are saying. No one in the catholic church says it is wrong for a priest to get married but okay to have sex. This is your misunderstanding. The Wiki page you quoted is correct, you just don't know what it actually says.

Since you love wikipedia so much;

"the Church does teach that sexual intercourse outside of marriage is contrary to its purpose."


Nope. You must be. If you had evidence to the contrary you would have posted it.

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Are you for real? I just did give evidence! It is right above in the very post you quoted! Let me repeat it again;

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Since you love wikipedia so much;

"the Church does teach that sexual intercourse outside of marriage is contrary to its purpose."


Have you had a stroke in the last week spot? Is there a reason that you are out doing your usual stupid posts with these recent super stupid ones? Look at this response of yours that you think proves that Catholics allow sex outside of marriage;

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This from the catholic encyclopedia

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03481a.htm

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Celibacy is the renunciation of marriage implicitly or explicitly made, for the more perfect observance of chastity, by all those who receive the Sacrament of Orders in any of the higher grades.


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Look at the part I highlighted. Do you even understand what you are quoting these days? Celibacy in the catholic church in regards to priests is an on top of rule. As in; on top of not having sex before marriage, don't even get married. It does not mean; don't get married, but feel free to screw anyone you wish, type rule that you're arguing for.

This thread, coupled with your recent Abbott committed treason because Howard said so topic, are both proof that either English isn't your first language, or that you have some comprehension disability. When it comes to what people say or write you either see stuff that isn't there, or you doesn't see the things right in front of you. Now having problems with English comprehension is not a crime, but stop telling others that they are wrong when you clearly don't know what you are talking about.
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Reply #99 - Mar 7th, 2013 at 9:14am
 
Nope. you didnt give evidence of anything. You wrote a sentence and stuck quotations marks on it. Thats not evidence.

Chastity and celibacy arent the same thing to the church obviously. Celibacy is not getting married and chastity is not having sex.

Your crap about my argument is just a strawman since i never said that.

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Reply #100 - Mar 7th, 2013 at 9:34am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 7th, 2013 at 9:14am:
Nope. you didnt give evidence of anything. You wrote a sentence and stuck quotations marks on it. Thats not evidence.

Chastity and celibacy arent the same thing to the church obviously. Celibacy is not getting married and chastity is not having sex.

Your crap about my argument is just a strawman since i never said that.

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It was a quote from Wikipedia. How is that anything different from what you did?
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Reply #101 - Mar 7th, 2013 at 10:14am
 
Quantum wrote on Mar 7th, 2013 at 9:34am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 7th, 2013 at 9:14am:
Nope. you didnt give evidence of anything. You wrote a sentence and stuck quotations marks on it. Thats not evidence.

Chastity and celibacy arent the same thing to the church obviously. Celibacy is not getting married and chastity is not having sex.

Your crap about my argument is just a strawman since i never said that.

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It was a quote from Wikipedia. How is that anything different from what you did?


I didnt type a sentence and put quotations marks on it and say it was from wikipedia. I actually quoted and gave the link. You made it up.

I see you havent addressed any of the actual point now just the strawman about the quoting. Guess you were wrong huh?

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Reply #102 - Mar 7th, 2013 at 1:24pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 7th, 2013 at 10:14am:
Quantum wrote on Mar 7th, 2013 at 9:34am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 7th, 2013 at 9:14am:
Nope. you didnt give evidence of anything. You wrote a sentence and stuck quotations marks on it. Thats not evidence.

Chastity and celibacy arent the same thing to the church obviously. Celibacy is not getting married and chastity is not having sex.

Your crap about my argument is just a strawman since i never said that.

SOB


It was a quote from Wikipedia. How is that anything different from what you did?


I didnt type a sentence and put quotations marks on it and say it was from wikipedia. I actually quoted and gave the link. You made it up.


Got you now you fvckwit!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholicism_and_sexuality

Right there! That's where the quote came from. So are you going to apologize for accusing me of making stuff up? Or can we now forever quote this debate as proof positive that you are a liar?

Amazing that you would make such a stupid accusation. Do you know how I found the quote again a day after copying it from wikipedia? I simply cut and pasted it again, this time into the google search bar. 5 seconds is all it took. That's how much research you would have had to have done before you accused me of making stuff up. You are not only a lying moron, but a bloody lazy one as well.

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I see you havent addressed any of the actual point now just the strawman about the quoting. Guess you were wrong huh?

SOB



I addressed them you dick. In fact I posted "evidence" as you call it showing that you were wrong. You are the one who started the quoting issue by saying I had not given any evidence and then accusing me of making evidence up.

You are a complete retard and have been caught red-handed making baseless accusations.   
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Reply #103 - Mar 7th, 2013 at 7:09pm
 
Emma wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 1:00am:
Personally  I only have interest in the so-called Dead Sea Scrolls.. 
populist info sources suggest ...?? 

Ahh  seems we are not allowed access to them...  only in rarified circumstances...  Huh

why would that be?? do you suppose?? 


but anyways, this is all just a bit of fun for me...   belief in deities didn't come down to me in my genetic inheritance.

I'm just interested in the ON-GOING impacts religious dogmas has ... thousands of yrs later...

some might say that proves  it...  BUT WHAT? 
I say .. its cultural conditioning, 

and that humans would be better off without religiosity in their lives.
MUCH BETTER OFF.. 

   



seriously? you are questioning why papyrus documents of over 2000 years of age are not given to just anyone to handle and play with? scholars have copies of the originals to work with so unless you are going to suggest that they have been altered and the rare occasion where the originals are viewed have been conspiracies...
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Reply #104 - Mar 7th, 2013 at 7:11pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 6th, 2013 at 12:01pm:
I am not talking about the dictionary definition im talking about the catholic and religious definition since thats the topic. So i take it you cant back up what you say since you didnt?

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i can guarantee - as can anyone with 1/10 of a brain - that celibacy means to not have sex, period. Your understanding of the word is , as always' wrong.
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