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longweekend58
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Reply #105 - Mar 7th, 2013 at 7:19pm
 
Quantum wrote on Mar 7th, 2013 at 1:24pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 7th, 2013 at 10:14am:
Quantum wrote on Mar 7th, 2013 at 9:34am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 7th, 2013 at 9:14am:
Nope. you didnt give evidence of anything. You wrote a sentence and stuck quotations marks on it. Thats not evidence.

Chastity and celibacy arent the same thing to the church obviously. Celibacy is not getting married and chastity is not having sex.

Your crap about my argument is just a strawman since i never said that.

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It was a quote from Wikipedia. How is that anything different from what you did?


I didnt type a sentence and put quotations marks on it and say it was from wikipedia. I actually quoted and gave the link. You made it up.


Got you now you fvckwit!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholicism_and_sexuality

Right there! That's where the quote came from. So are you going to apologize for accusing me of making stuff up? Or can we now forever quote this debate as proof positive that you are a liar?

Amazing that you would make such a stupid accusation. Do you know how I found the quote again a day after copying it from wikipedia? I simply cut and pasted it again, this time into the google search bar. 5 seconds is all it took. That's how much research you would have had to have done before you accused me of making stuff up. You are not only a lying moron, but a bloody lazy one as well.

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I see you havent addressed any of the actual point now just the strawman about the quoting. Guess you were wrong huh?

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I addressed them you dick. In fact I posted "evidence" as you call it showing that you were wrong. You are the one who started the quoting issue by saying I had not given any evidence and then accusing me of making evidence up.

You are a complete retard and have been caught red-handed making baseless accusations.   


Quantum... do you have that gnawing feeling that SOB doesnt actually know what 'sex' is? The only way anyone could say what he does and breath unaided is that he  pretty much has no idea of what sex is, That he is a virgin goes beyond saying given that his stupid would repel anything female. So perhaps his only understanding of sexuality comes from te school yard as a 10yo and we ALL know how accurate that information turned out to be!
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Reply #106 - Mar 7th, 2013 at 7:27pm
 
Well I'm sure his cat must have taught him a thing or two... but overall yes, sex does seem to be another subject that he just doesn't get.
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Reply #107 - Mar 7th, 2013 at 8:25pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 7th, 2013 at 7:11pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 6th, 2013 at 12:01pm:
I am not talking about the dictionary definition im talking about the catholic and religious definition since thats the topic. So i take it you cant back up what you say since you didnt?

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i can guarantee - as can anyone with 1/10 of a brain - that celibacy means to not have sex, period. Your understanding of the word is , as always' wrong.



This is Borg after sex.


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Reply #108 - Mar 7th, 2013 at 10:22pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 7th, 2013 at 7:09pm:
Emma wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 1:00am:
Personally  I only have interest in the so-called Dead Sea Scrolls.. 
populist info sources suggest ...?? 

Ahh  seems we are not allowed access to them...  only in rarified circumstances...  Huh

why would that be?? do you suppose?? 


but anyways, this is all just a bit of fun for me...   belief in deities didn't come down to me in my genetic inheritance.

I'm just interested in the ON-GOING impacts religious dogmas has ... thousands of yrs later...

some might say that proves  it...  BUT WHAT? 
I say .. its cultural conditioning, 

and that humans would be better off without religiosity in their lives.
MUCH BETTER OFF.. 

   



seriously? you are questioning why papyrus documents of over 2000 years of age are not given to just anyone to handle and play with? scholars have copies of the originals to work with so unless you are going to suggest that they have been altered and the rare occasion where the originals are viewed have been conspiracies...


Now now don't overplay it Longo...    I am saying that only a small fraction of the Scrolls have been released.  to anyone.!  Anyone  does not include, obviously,  just anyone.   Smileya  t all..

And in fact  those 'Scholars'  are very few in number.... compared to the numbers of 'serious scholars' who would LOVE to get a chance to cherish them.... Sad   
don't ask me why...
Roll Eyes

You brought the 'conspiracy' word up...  and since you mention it... HOW could it possibly be BAD,  to allow wider access to this treasure of historical record.??   

What could there possibly be to fear??   Huh

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Reply #109 - Mar 7th, 2013 at 11:56pm
 
Oh don't you just love the adds that bracket the forum body..??

Up TOP ^ ALCOHOL, DRUGS and mental health    .. adin
Down BELOW
ANZ Business Overdraft.. 

Smiley Smiley
thats probably only on my page   Grin Grin


But serious here...   I will state here and NOW, that I have  NEVER even looked at Wikipedia,,  let alone used it as a reference... or resource for any information. 

seriously... that is truth..
and IF anyone on this board considers Wikipedia to be a reference ,... with any validity whatsoever,...  they need to think agin.!!

I am past my academic or management yrs... but  ... if anyone used a Wikipedia reference as any sort of support for  anything ,  in say .. a job interview..??? 

they would be crossed of the List.!!  Immediately.


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Reply #110 - Mar 8th, 2013 at 5:31am
 
Quantum wrote on Mar 7th, 2013 at 1:24pm:
Got you now you fvckwit!


No you havent "got me now" you have just finally decided to do the right thing. Was it THAT hard to do?

Now as i said before "sexuality" isnt what the celibacy article was talking about. Chastity and celibacy are different things to the church according to not only wikipedia but the catholic encyclopaedia i quoted.

Meanwhile the celibacy issues also a strawman - you like them dont you.

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Reply #111 - Mar 8th, 2013 at 5:33am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 7th, 2013 at 7:11pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 6th, 2013 at 12:01pm:
I am not talking about the dictionary definition im talking about the catholic and religious definition since thats the topic. So i take it you cant back up what you say since you didnt?

SOB


i can guarantee - as can anyone with 1/10 of a brain - that celibacy means to not have sex, period. Your understanding of the word is , as always' wrong.


Obviously another who cant comprehend what he reads. Scroll back and see my links to the catholic encyclopaedia and wikipedia on the catholic churches definition of celibacy since (and this is the 3rd time i have had to say it) we are talking about the churches definition.

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Reply #112 - Mar 8th, 2013 at 5:34am
 
KJT1981 wrote on Mar 7th, 2013 at 8:25pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 7th, 2013 at 7:11pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 6th, 2013 at 12:01pm:
I am not talking about the dictionary definition im talking about the catholic and religious definition since thats the topic. So i take it you cant back up what you say since you didnt?

SOB


i can guarantee - as can anyone with 1/10 of a brain - that celibacy means to not have sex, period. Your understanding of the word is , as always' wrong.



This is Borg after sex.




Go away troll

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Reply #113 - Mar 8th, 2013 at 5:35am
 
Quantum wrote on Mar 7th, 2013 at 7:27pm:
Well I'm sure his cat must have taught him a thing or two... but overall yes, sex does seem to be another subject that he just doesn't get.


Awwww cant handle losing an argument about your own strawman?

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Reply #114 - Mar 8th, 2013 at 7:41am
 
You are batshit crazy. When there is complete agreement that you are wrong, when you are caught red handed making baseless accusations, and even when people who would normally agree with you say that Wikipedia is a ridiculous resource, you still fight on as if you a correct.

There is no greeting through to you that you are wrong. Your only response is; got no argument ay troll, when people give up explaining to you that water is wet and the Sun is hot because you just don't get it.
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Reply #115 - Mar 8th, 2013 at 8:31am
 
Quantum wrote on Mar 8th, 2013 at 7:41am:
You are batshit crazy. When there is complete agreement that you are wrong, when you are caught red handed making baseless accusations, and even when people who would normally agree with you say that Wikipedia is a ridiculous resource, you still fight on as if you a correct.

There is no greeting through to you that you are wrong. Your only response is; got no argument ay troll, when people give up explaining to you that water is wet and the Sun is hot because you just don't get it.


Aww trying to misquote me again? I said you have no argument troll when you decided to engage in blatant ad-hominem.

However - you dont have an argument or you would have made it.

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Reply #116 - Mar 8th, 2013 at 9:13am
 
Myself making an argument, and you being too stupid to understand the argument being made, are two different things.

The argument has been made that celibacy both in and out of the church is in regards to being unmarried and sexually abstinent. I am not denying that the narrow usage of the word is in reference to being unmarried. In fact, the original usage of the word was in reference to being unmarried. But all words can have a narrow and broader meaning, as well as having a shift in meaning over time. Your problem spot is your inability to understand the dynamic range of a word, as well as selectively quoting a use that fits your argument (much like your limited understanding and use of the word atheism). This all started by your claim that;

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The problem is that "celibacy" doesnt mean abstaining from sex - it means not being married apparently. Therefore if they arent allowed to marry they go find other avenues.


when I replied by asking;

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What the hell are you actually trying to argue? That sex outside of marriage is fine and only the marriage is prohibited?


your only reply was;

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Well thats what wikipedia says and some catholic site i saw the other day too.
 

If you only wanted to argue that in the strictest sense of the word celibacy is in reference to remaining unmarried, you would get no argument from me. But when you want to extrapolate that point to conclude that the catholic church only holds to the narrow sense of the word and that it means that sex outside of marriage is not actually prohibited, then you are simply going to get proven wrong time and time again.
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Reply #117 - Mar 8th, 2013 at 10:44am
 
My only reply? What a lying troll you are.

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Reply #118 - Mar 8th, 2013 at 10:57am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 8th, 2013 at 10:44am:
My only reply? What a lying troll you are.

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To the question that was asked... yes, that was your only reply. You didn't go into any more detail than that in that post. It is forever preserved on page 6 of this thread and there is no point in denying it.

The chain of posts that resulted from your answer to the question are irrelevant, as it was the first post that answered the question that started the debate. It is bad enough that you don't understand English, but do you not understand time and sequence as well?
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Reply #119 - Mar 8th, 2013 at 11:47am
 
You want celibate?

Here's celibate...Matthew 19:12

"For there are some eunuchs, which were born from their mother's womb; and there were some eunuchs which were made eunuchs of men; and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it."

Corp, take note...
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