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Reply #60 - Mar 3^rd, 2013 at 4:42am

freediver wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2013 at 5:17pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 1^st, 2013 at 10:31pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 1^st, 2013 at 10:25pm:

That's a nice lava lamp.

John, I thought the idea was not to impact upon the town. I'm pretty sure the locals are not complaining about selling $9 coke bottles and $45 steaks to cashed up miners. If you can't see a way to benefit from that situation it is your own fault.

what about the local supermarket chick, who now has to pay $9 for a bottle of coke or $7 for water? her rent has gone up from $200 per week to $1500 .... how does she survive? that is one example. .. there would be thousands ... the busness owners may do alright out of it, but anyone on a fixed wage will suffer for it.

If she works in a supermarket, it should not be that hard for her to figure out where she could get a coke for under $9 from. If you can't see a way to benefit from that situation it is your own fault. Anyone working for minimum wage in a town with a massive mining boom happening has rocks in their head. Some of the larger boom towns have to get fly in fly out managers for the local maccas. More than half the town would be raking it in. The rest are just lazy whingers or people who don't actually live in these towns but want to whinge on anyone's behalf. Even fruit towns have trouble getting pickers in these days.

So how are you saying she should do it? Steal it? Drive 200 km to buy it?

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Reply #61 - Mar 3^rd, 2013 at 6:34am

freediver wrote on Mar 1^st, 2013 at 10:25pm:

That's a nice lava lamp.

John, I thought the idea was not to impact upon the town. I'm pretty sure the locals are not complaining about selling $9 coke bottles and $45 steaks to cashed up miners. If you can't see a way to benefit from that situation it is your own fault.

i can tell you one area where the locals certainly do not benefit and that is in the provision of medical services.
most of these small country towns are extremely under doctored and the locals are very protective of their doctors and treat them with great respect.

the stories i hear of miners flooding the area and doing shift work and then rocking up to country hospitals at the end of their shift (maybe midnite0 and becoming abusive and demanding the doctor be called in to treat a welders flash or get a piece of metal flake out of the eye or a myriad of other things Angry

this has led to an exodus of gp's from some towns (mooranbah has lost 2) and locals now have to drive 100 km to mackay for treatment.

very selfish and not on

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Reply #62 - Mar 3^rd, 2013 at 10:32am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2013 at 4:42am:

freediver wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2013 at 5:17pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 1^st, 2013 at 10:31pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 1^st, 2013 at 10:25pm:

That's a nice lava lamp.

John, I thought the idea was not to impact upon the town. I'm pretty sure the locals are not complaining about selling $9 coke bottles and $45 steaks to cashed up miners. If you can't see a way to benefit from that situation it is your own fault.

what about the local supermarket chick, who now has to pay $9 for a bottle of coke or $7 for water? her rent has gone up from $200 per week to $1500 .... how does she survive? that is one example. .. there would be thousands ... the busness owners may do alright out of it, but anyone on a fixed wage will suffer for it.

If she works in a supermarket, it should not be that hard for her to figure out where she could get a coke for under $9 from. If you can't see a way to benefit from that situation it is your own fault. Anyone working for minimum wage in a town with a massive mining boom happening has rocks in their head. Some of the larger boom towns have to get fly in fly out managers for the local maccas. More than half the town would be raking it in. The rest are just lazy whingers or people who don't actually live in these towns but want to whinge on anyone's behalf. Even fruit towns have trouble getting pickers in these days.

So how are you saying she should do it? Steal it? Drive 200 km to buy it?

SOB

I would suggest thinking about it spot.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 104847 Melbourne Gender:	Re: The Towns Where A Pub Steak Costs $45. Reply #63 - Mar 3^rd, 2013 at 10:43am longweekend58 wrote on Feb 28^th, 2013 at 8:47am: When in Perth on business last year I bought a $45 steak which was actually the CHEAPEST on the menu as some were $60+... and it was a lousy steak. Longy, You should not have eaten more than a few mouth fulls & then demanded your money back.
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imcrookonit Ex Member	Re: The Towns Where A Pub Steak Costs $45. Reply #64 - Mar 3^rd, 2013 at 11:02am Well said bobby. If they are charging those prices. It is know as what is called - a try on.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 104847 Melbourne Gender:	Re: The Towns Where A Pub Steak Costs $45. Reply #65 - Mar 3^rd, 2013 at 11:10am Quote: Well said bobby. If they are charging those prices. It is known as what is called - a try on. Hear hear Crook, I really like the way you stand up for what is right - whether it be for workers being exploited by bosses or those who are ripped off by unscrupulous businesses.
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Reply #66 - Mar 3^rd, 2013 at 11:13am

aquascoot wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2013 at 6:34am:

freediver wrote on Mar 1^st, 2013 at 10:25pm:

That's a nice lava lamp.

John, I thought the idea was not to impact upon the town. I'm pretty sure the locals are not complaining about selling $9 coke bottles and $45 steaks to cashed up miners. If you can't see a way to benefit from that situation it is your own fault.

i can tell you one area where the locals certainly do not benefit and that is in the provision of medical services.
most of these small country towns are extremely under doctored and the locals are very protective of their doctors and treat them with great respect.

the stories i hear of miners flooding the area and doing shift work and then rocking up to country hospitals at the end of their shift (maybe midnite0 and becoming abusive and demanding the doctor be called in to treat a welders flash or get a piece of metal flake out of the eye or a myriad of other things Angry

this has led to an exodus of gp's from some towns (mooranbah has lost 2) and locals now have to drive 100 km to mackay for treatment.

very selfish and not on

also not true

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BigOl64 Gold Member Offline Posts: 14438 Townsville QLD Gender:	Re: The Towns Where A Pub Steak Costs $45. Reply #68 - Mar 3^rd, 2013 at 11:40am freediver wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2013 at 11:15am: Most mines would fire people just for leaving site with an injury. Is this post utter bullsh1t day or something? It looks good for the retards, making out that the mines deliberately and systematically break the law, but it is total horsesh1t none the less.
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Reply #69 - Mar 3^rd, 2013 at 11:57am

It is not breaking the law. The mines have people onsite to deal with these injuries, and if not, would organise for them to go where there is actually a person on staff. They would not let people go driving round the countryside injured in the middle of the night trying to wake up a GP. This is not out of concern for the GP, but to avoid the OHS minefield from the injured worker.

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Reply #70 - Mar 3^rd, 2013 at 12:03pm

freediver wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2013 at 11:57am:

It is not breaking the law. The mines have people onsite to deal with these injuries, and if not, would organise for them to go where there is actually a person on staff. They would not let people go driving round the countryside injured in the middle of the night trying to wake up a GP. This is not out of concern for the GP, but to avoid the OHS minefield from the injured worker.

There you go, a very poorly structured sentence leading to misinterpretation. Thankfully your second post is better and yes correct.

BTW, if the injury is bad enough they will be taken to the hospital and the oncall GP will get woken up to treat the patient. Just like every other human being in the town.

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Reply #71 - Mar 3^rd, 2013 at 12:58pm

The Pub with No Steer......

Yes - I have discussed in another arena, such things as the fly-by-night culture in the coal seam gas exploitation industry, which on Insight on SBS I saw raised the spectre of $1000+ a week rents DURING construction time, and how local families could not keep up.

Well, the 'resources boom' benefits very few.. very few, and only the big boys in reality.

Also the cost of housing in a boom towns leads to boom town rats who pay big-time to own a house in a mining boom town that lasts not as long as the mortgage, and either sell on and get out early enough or lose the lot when the town goes ghost. And of course they are held hostage to the company store of owning/buying a home in town and needing the job which in reality does not pay them mega-bucks as a result of costs etc, meaning they can't get uppity at work and expect any Union or anything else rights. The New Serfdom writ large.

My argument was/is, of course, that companies seeking these mega-boom profits should provide housing.... subsidised or not.. for families etc - as well as training for workers so as to ensure an ongoing flow of qualified performers in the industry.

The whole thing is based on quick profit for the big boys - nobody else - the rest pay for the privilege of living in a hot, dry, dusty shlt-hole of a Third World economy in homes that will be worthless in twenty years when they have a thirty year mortgage......

Oh - sorry! Did I step on anyone's toes there? Then sit on it!

Cheesy

ADDS:- Can I corner the market on ghost towns? Must be a fortune's worth of them out there soon....all going for $100 a town.... kinda like that film Paris Texas.. where the kids says when looking at his dad's photo of his block of desert land - "Yeah - but what are we going to eat?"

Grin

AND ADDS:- The biggest single product of the mining boom is high quality bulldust, which is processed in the Canberra Refinery into high quality top export grade Bullshit! WITH a massive local consumption rate!

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Reply #72 - Mar 3^rd, 2013 at 3:11pm

freediver wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2013 at 11:57am:

It is not breaking the law. The mines have people onsite to deal with these injuries, and if not, would organise for them to go where there is actually a person on staff. They would not let people go driving round the countryside injured in the middle of the night trying to wake up a GP. This is not out of concern for the GP, but to avoid the OHS minefield from the injured worker.

incorrect, towns such as mooranbah, clermont, springsure, rolleston, blackwater have what they call medical superintendent with rights to private practice.
basicly the doctor is given a free building and staff and is "allowed" to see patients during sessions when he is able to bill medicare.

ie, he recieves a base salary from the state government and can supplement his income with federal funding from medicare.
this only occurs as an incentive for doctors working in rural towns and usually only when they are solo practitioners.

the rub is, by being the hospital superinterdent you take on the obligation to see ALL comers who choose to attend the casualty dept of the hospital.
the locals respect this and try to see the doc during his private clinic times.
the miners dont.

ask doctors in rural towns what they think of the mining influx

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Reply #73 - Mar 3^rd, 2013 at 3:16pm

heres one link from a guy i know

http://www.australiandoctor.com.au/news/latest-news/warning-of-healthcare-crisis...

i would add the mines wanted the clinic to do drug testing of their workers but the local doctors refused (whose got time for this sort of OH and S crap) so now the miners have to drive 100 km to mackay to pee in a jar. serves em right for turning up like gate crashers and trashing the place.

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Reply #74 - Mar 3^rd, 2013 at 3:54pm

Good site Aqua:

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Doctors in the fast-growing Queensland mining town of Moranbah are warning the region’s healthcare services are a “time bomb” as explosive property prices combine with a crippling patient load and an ageing workforce.
Rental prices in the central Queensland town are over $3000 a week, driven by a thriving mining industry built on fly-in fly-out workers. The most basic houses sell for over $600,000 — far more than in Mackay or Brisbane.
Dr Reyno Nieuwoudt, practice principal of Moranbah Medical, said the practice had this year subsidised doctors’ housing to the tune of $100,000. “It’s just not sustainable,” he told Australian Doctor.
He and the town’s two other senior doctors are planning to retire in the next five years. That leaves two registrars,...

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