Yadda wrote on Mar 4^th, 2013 at 7:55am:


so if you obey god then you need to follow the barbaric laws of the old testament and go out and rape women !!

Yadda wrote on Mar 4^th, 2013 at 9:01pm:


and how is your paranormal friend ? Have you seen him lately ? Has he grown any severed limbs back on amputees ?

Grey wrote on Mar 4^th, 2013 at 9:24pm:



hi grey.

You know that i am going to say, that God made everything.

So your next question is going to be;
Then why doesn't God 'reign in' the devil, and destroy him and his intents?

And;
Why did God create evil [beings]?




I don't know.




Ecclesiastes 7:29
Lo, this only have I found, that God hath made man upright; but they have sought out many inventions.

Perhaps that entity which is the devil, was created 'upright' too ?

And perhaps the devil corrupted himself, just like mankind have corrupted themselves ?

Is that 'process' so difficult to imagine ?

i.e.
The 'human condition' ?




1 John 1:5
This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

God wants, what is good for us.

We are his 'children'.

But we [most of us] just want, to do whatever we will.
....and let the devil take the hind most ?

We want lawlessness, with out consequence.

No ?

Look at the state of man, in this world, today.

Do you really believe that OUR politicians [and OUR other community leaders] have the capacity [within themselves] to do what is right, and to bring about peace 1/ in this world, 2/ in this country, 3/ in our community ?

Think about it;
We elect [choose] our politicians, and our politicians are merely a reflection of what we are.

They are us, we are them!





Proverbs 21:29
A wicked man hardeneth his face: but as for the upright, he directeth his way.
30  There is no wisdom nor understanding nor counsel against the LORD.
31  The horse is prepared against the day of battle: but safety is of the LORD.


The wicked won't 'turn' - again, to God.

The wicked refuse to 'turn' - again, to God.

It is easy to say sorry, in our hearts, to God.

But [the carnal] man doesn't need a God, to forgive him, for his/her foolishness.

Right?      





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Revelation 14:14
And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.
15  And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.
16  And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.
17  And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.
18  And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.
19  And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.



Is God cruel, who will judge us, for our choices, is God cruel, for judging our wicked choices ?

Is it cruel, to do justice ?

Is it cruel, to judge the wicked ?

Men say that yes, it is cruel.


Proverbs 28:4
They that forsake the law praise the wicked: but such as keep the law contend with them.
5  Evil men understand not judgment: but they that seek the LORD understand all things.






Luke 18:7
And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, though he bear long with them?
8  I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?

Yadda wrote on Mar 5^th, 2013 at 8:13am:



So god in your estimation, made humans badly flawed and then made an evil devil to entice them into being really really bad and you recommend that humans have faith in this god to save themselves.

Wake up and smell the coffee, take some responsibility.

You did not choose your god, who you know and understand not. He was dumped into your brain with the rest of the cultural baggage of the society you grew up in. Out of the thousands of gods on offer across the planet you have a belief in one. One more than I do 

Grey wrote on Mar 12^th, 2013 at 8:51pm:


man created god in mans image

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 13^th, 2013 at 12:02am:






Nail,

With you being a well versed 'student of scripture', with all of your copy & paste from evil.bible, i think that you know very well, that nowhere has God declared that he will send anyone to hell, because they don't believe in him, God.

In fact God does clearly state, in both the O.T. & N.T., that he does not condemn any person or persons because they are strangers to him.

Deuteronomy 10:17-19

For the LORD your God... loveth the stranger, ...Love ye therefore the stranger:

for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.




My own understanding of God's nature [from studying scripture], is that God will only condemn those of us who act irresponsibly, and those of us who act irresponsibly in a wilful way.

And in scripture, God even declares that he will forgive, and redeem, anyone who has acted irresponsibly, if they say sorry for their mistakes, sincerely, in their heart.


Dictionary;
irresponsible = = not showing a proper sense of responsibility.

Dictionary;
wilful = =
1 intentional; deliberate.
2 stubborn and determined.




Everyone has made mistakes in life.

I know that i have made mistakes.

Why wouldn't God forgive anyone, who makes a mistake, but then later, sincerely says sorry, in their heart ?

That is the quality of mercy from my creator, which i, and many others, are relying upon.

From my own understanding of God's nature, God will forgive even a murderer who sincerely says sorry.



So, who is God unlikely to forgive ?

Those who continue to act irresponsibly, wilfully.


Ezekiel 18:27
Again, when the wicked man turneth away from his wickedness that he hath committed, and doeth that which is lawful and right, he shall save his soul alive.
28  Because he considereth, and turneth away from all his transgressions that he hath committed, he shall surely live, he shall not die.







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Psalms 32:1
Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered.
2  Blessed is the man unto whom the LORD imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile.


Jeremiah 17:14
Heal me, O LORD, and I shall be healed; save me, and I shall be saved: for thou art my praise.


1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.


What behaviour is 'good', 'responsible' ?

Micah 6:8
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?