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Re: Did Barry close your fire station today?
Reply #15 - Mar 12th, 2013 at 12:43am
 
NBNMyths wrote on Mar 11th, 2013 at 8:05pm:
Innocent bystander wrote on Mar 11th, 2013 at 1:19pm:
I never realised there were so many fire stations around, sh#t no wonder he's getting rid of some, thats ridiculous, so many firemen, so few fires, I bet the firemen wish they wren't at the forefront of introducing so many fire prevention policies now  Grin


Fire station locations aren't so much about the number of fires, as the time it would take to reach a given location. The official objective is to attend 90% of fire calls within 10 minutes of the time of call.

When you close stations you extend response times, because the next nearest station must cover that area. More dangerously, if the next nearest station is already committed, then the response time to an area could easily blow out to 20 minutes or more, because stations are generally placed about 6-7 minutes drive time apart.

For example, looking at the map above, let's say there was a Automatic Fire Alarm (AFA) activate in Parramatta (that's station 27). That would typically happen 3 or 4 times each day, and requires a 2-station response. So that would take 27 and 57 off line. But, the nearby stations of 65, 66, 67 and 72 were already offline. I don't know if you're familiar with Sydney, but that leaves a gap all the way from Seven Hills (43) through to Silverwater (19). Should there have been another firecall in North Parramatta at that time, it would have taken the nearest fire engine a good 20-25 minutes to arrive. Can you imagine the potential consequences of such a delay?


Thanks for explaining NBNMyths.  This definitely sounds like nothing more than cost cutting that puts further stress on firemen and additional raises the risks to communities.
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Re: Did Barry close your fire station today?
Reply #16 - Mar 12th, 2013 at 4:30am
 
hadrian_now wrote on Mar 11th, 2013 at 1:06pm:
I don't give a damn if he is a fireman. I am quite sure O'Farrell would not be indiscriminately endangering public safety.


That's too funny. Sounds like Hadrian was projecting when he called NBN a party hack.
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Reply #17 - Mar 12th, 2013 at 4:35am
 
Is the report analysing the consequences of these closures in the public domain.
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Reply #18 - Mar 12th, 2013 at 4:50am
 
hadrian_now wrote on Mar 11th, 2013 at 1:06pm:
I don't give a damn if he is a fireman. I am quite sure O'Farrell would not be indiscriminately endangering public safety.


Of course not. Nor would newman in QLD with cutting hospital funding effecting not only public waiting lists but the private ones as well. All they care about is getting enough money to build their new office buildings no matter where they get it from.

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Reply #19 - Mar 12th, 2013 at 10:23am
 
MOTR wrote on Mar 12th, 2013 at 4:35am:
Is the report analysing the consequences of these closures in the public domain.


As far as I know, there is no such report. Although it's been tried overseas:
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2011/02/23/firefighter-union-offical-questions-...
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-7987419.html
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Re: Did Barry close your fire station today?
Reply #20 - Mar 12th, 2013 at 10:58am
 
Maybe Obeid will donate a few million from his corruption proceeds to help keep the NSW public service from bankruptcy Shocked
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Reply #21 - Mar 12th, 2013 at 12:31pm
 
hadrian_now wrote on Mar 11th, 2013 at 1:06pm:
I don't give a damn if he is a fireman. I am quite sure O'Farrell would not be indiscriminately endangering public safety.



And I thought he was a Liberal?
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Reply #22 - Mar 12th, 2013 at 12:39pm
 
MOTR wrote on Mar 12th, 2013 at 4:30am:
hadrian_now wrote on Mar 11th, 2013 at 1:06pm:
I don't give a damn if he is a fireman. I am quite sure O'Farrell would not be indiscriminately endangering public safety.


That's too funny. Sounds like Hadrian was projecting when he called NBN a party hack.


He is no different to lobbyists in Washington on our retainers.
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Reply #23 - Mar 12th, 2013 at 12:40pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Mar 12th, 2013 at 12:31pm:
hadrian_now wrote on Mar 11th, 2013 at 1:06pm:
I don't give a damn if he is a fireman. I am quite sure O'Farrell would not be indiscriminately endangering public safety.



And I thought he was a Liberal?


Not like you to write something anti Liberal?
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Reply #24 - Mar 12th, 2013 at 1:04pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 12th, 2013 at 12:39pm:
MOTR wrote on Mar 12th, 2013 at 4:30am:
hadrian_now wrote on Mar 11th, 2013 at 1:06pm:
I don't give a damn if he is a fireman. I am quite sure O'Farrell would not be indiscriminately endangering public safety.


That's too funny. Sounds like Hadrian was projecting when he called NBN a party hack.


He is no different to lobbyists in Washington on our retainers.


Yes, I am. They get paid to "lobby", I don't.
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Reply #25 - Mar 12th, 2013 at 1:09pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 12th, 2013 at 12:40pm:
Dnarever wrote on Mar 12th, 2013 at 12:31pm:
hadrian_now wrote on Mar 11th, 2013 at 1:06pm:
I don't give a damn if he is a fireman. I am quite sure O'Farrell would not be indiscriminately endangering public safety.



And I thought he was a Liberal?


Not like you to write something anti Liberal?


Not like you to be critical of anyone writing something anti liberal?
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Re: Did Barry close your fire station today?
Reply #26 - Mar 12th, 2013 at 1:10pm
 
NBNMyths wrote on Mar 12th, 2013 at 1:04pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 12th, 2013 at 12:39pm:
MOTR wrote on Mar 12th, 2013 at 4:30am:
hadrian_now wrote on Mar 11th, 2013 at 1:06pm:
I don't give a damn if he is a fireman. I am quite sure O'Farrell would not be indiscriminately endangering public safety.


That's too funny. Sounds like Hadrian was projecting when he called NBN a party hack.


He is no different to lobbyists in Washington on our retainers.


Yes, I am. They get paid to "lobby", I don't.



Just for the love of conservatives.
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Re: Did Barry close your fire station today?
Reply #27 - Mar 12th, 2013 at 4:50pm
 
NBNMyths wrote on Mar 12th, 2013 at 10:23am:
MOTR wrote on Mar 12th, 2013 at 4:35am:
Is the report analysing the consequences of these closures in the public domain.


As far as I know, there is no such report. Although it's been tried overseas:
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2011/02/23/firefighter-union-offical-questions-...
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-7987419.html


The reasoning behind decisions like this should be on the public record.
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