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Mar 11^th, 2013 at 8:08pm

okay, i know this girl from parkes and she is a completely feral human being who, despite only being about 24, now has two children and probably has designs to have moer. she is the last person in the world this society needs to be proliferating in such great numbers. she has openly stated that one of the reasons why she is haivng so many kids is because the government gives her lots of money when she does.

seriously: why the bugger do we give money to people have kids in this day and age? in a country that allegedly cares about the future and the environment we are giving money to people so we can increase our population, and at the very least making no distinction between the utter ferals whom we dont need more of in any capacity (and let's face it they're the people who will mainly be incentivised by the baby bonus to hav emore children) and the people who don't suck. what the bugger australia?

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Reply #1 - Mar 11^th, 2013 at 8:47pm

JC Denton wrote on Mar 11^th, 2013 at 8:08pm:

seriously: why the bugger do we give money to people have kids in this day and age? in a country that allegedly cares about the future and the environment we are giving money to people so we can increase our population, and at the very least making no distinction between the utter ferals whom we dont need more of in any capacity (and let's face it they're the people who will mainly be incentivised by the baby bonus to hav emore children) and the people who don't suck. what the bugger australia?

Yes it's bad. The baby bonus encourages the most prolific breeders and they usually aren't those who want the best for their kids - otherwise they wouldn't have so many.

The problem is hitting us now. We haven't got the service or education facilities to cope with this current baby boom and we're churning out hundreds of thousands of illiterate kids who will be of little use to building a productive Australia.

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Reply #2 - Mar 11^th, 2013 at 9:21pm

JC Denton wrote on Mar 11^th, 2013 at 8:08pm:

she has openly stated that one of the reasons why she is haivng so many kids is because the government gives her lots of money when she does.

I'm not so sure she's just talking about the baby bonus ... I knew a guy who refused to work .. he had 5 kids and quit his job ... when I asked him why not work he said that if he worked it would mean a pay cut ....

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Kat Gold Member Offline Socialism IS the answer. Posts: 17709 Everywhere and no-where Gender:	Re: baby bonus Reply #3 - Mar 11^th, 2013 at 9:56pm Double post..
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Kat Gold Member Offline Socialism IS the answer. Posts: 17709 Everywhere and no-where Gender:	Re: baby bonus Reply #4 - Mar 11^th, 2013 at 9:58pm .
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JC Denton Gold Member Offline Posts: 5471 Gender:	Re: baby bonus Reply #5 - Mar 12^th, 2013 at 1:27am your point, Kat?
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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26508 Australia	Re: baby bonus Reply #6 - Mar 12^th, 2013 at 4:58am Ppl with agendas say things. Just look @ longy. SOB
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Reply #7 - Mar 12^th, 2013 at 8:07am

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We haven't got the service or education facilities to cope with this current baby boom and we're churning out hundreds of thousands of illiterate kids who will be of little use to building a productive Australia.

What current baby boom?

The ABS advises that the current fertility rate in Australia in 2011 was on average 1.884 children per women. Yes, it is up, from 1.729 in 2001 - but it needs to be about 2.1 to maintain population at its present level. The only reason the Australian population isn't shrinking is because of the high level of immigration.

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Reply #8 - Mar 12^th, 2013 at 8:17am

newtown_grafitti wrote on Mar 12^th, 2013 at 8:07am:

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We haven't got the service or education facilities to cope with this current baby boom and we're churning out hundreds of thousands of illiterate kids who will be of little use to building a productive Australia.

What current baby boom?

The ABS advises that the current fertility rate in Australia in 2011 was on average 1.884 children per women. Yes, it is up, from 1.729 in 2001 - but it needs to be about 2.1 to maintain population at its present level. The only reason the Australian population isn't shrinking is because of the high level of immigration.

Why do we take it for granted that higher population = better? Look at all the useless shite that we have to provide jobs, housing and infrastructure for - they could disappear overnight and noone would give a bugger.

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Kat Gold Member Offline Socialism IS the answer. Posts: 17709 Everywhere and no-where Gender:	Re: baby bonus Reply #9 - Mar 12^th, 2013 at 8:27am JC Denton wrote on Mar 12^th, 2013 at 1:27am: your point, Kat? Facepalming over the way some think they should be able to stop others from having children due to their own prejudices. Fits in nicely with the 'Welfare for all except those who need and deserve it the most' attitude that's taken this country over.
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Reply #10 - Mar 12^th, 2013 at 9:13am

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Why do we take it for granted that higher population = better?

Who's "we"?

The Japanese don't seem to think so - or at least think so sufficiently to do something about it. According to an estimate in January last year, then current population size was starting to shrink and by 2060, will be down from 128 million to 87 million. By that time the proportion of people over 65 will have risen from 23% to 40%.

Unlike many other countries, Japan does not encourage immigration of people born elsewhere. It will be interesting to see how this unfolds.

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Reply #11 - Mar 12^th, 2013 at 10:08am

The baby bonus needs to be scrapped. Right now.

If people want kids, pay for it themselves.

If you can't afford them - don't have them. Don't expect the taxpayer to help you.

Of course, this doesn't fit in with the big business/government ideal of wanting a bigger and bigger Australia.

How ridiculous is it that we keep going on about sustainability, cutting pollution, etc. yet the one thing we need to do to solve the problem (reduce population growth) is hardly ever mentioned. It's like the elephant in the room.

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Reply #12 - Mar 12^th, 2013 at 10:21am

newtown_grafitti wrote on Mar 12^th, 2013 at 9:13am:

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Why do we take it for granted that higher population = better?

Who's "we"?

The Japanese don't seem to think so - or at least think so sufficiently to do something about it. According to an estimate in January last year, then current population size was starting to shrink and by 2060, will be down from 128 million to 87 million. By that time the proportion of people over 65 will have risen from 23% to 40%.

Unlike many other countries, Japan does not encourage immigration of people born elsewhere. It will be interesting to see how this unfolds.

awful! think of all those poor swedes and swiss - how sorry they msut feel for themselves sitting around only having populations of a few million or so rather than 128 million.

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Reply #13 - Mar 12^th, 2013 at 10:28am

Kat wrote on Mar 12^th, 2013 at 8:27am:

JC Denton wrote on Mar 12^th, 2013 at 1:27am:

your point, Kat?

Facepalming over the way some think they should be able to stop others from having children due to their own prejudices.

Fits in nicely with the 'Welfare for all except those who need and deserve it the most' attitude that's taken this country over.

uhhh. noone is 'stopping' them from having kids - they are free to have them, its just that other people shouldn't be expected to pay for them. the kind of people who would likely be incentivised to have children due to a payment are likely the worst kind of people anyway - improvident ferals who don't actually weigh in their heads the overall costs of raising a child over a time-frame of 18 or so years versus the immediate gratification of a big screen LCD t.v. the baby bonus is an incentivisation for feral proliferation.

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Fits in nicely with the 'Welfare for all except those who need and deserve it the most' attitude that's taken this country over.

oh my god how horrible! welfare only for people who truly need and deserve it? heaven forbid! let's give it to people who don't need and deserve it like toyah shannassey who feels she deserves monetary renumeration by churning out the future generation of gas pumpers, dole junkies and inmates so she can get a big screen plasma instead. now there's a good idea.

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Kat Gold Member Offline Socialism IS the answer. Posts: 17709 Everywhere and no-where Gender:	Re: baby bonus Reply #14 - Mar 12^th, 2013 at 5:37pm I rest my case.
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