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Re: How many old people leave everything to a church ?
Reply #45 - Mar 15^th, 2013 at 4:16pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 13^th, 2013 at 10:19am:

How many of those lonely old folks are stupid enough to leave everything to a church ?
Brainwash them when they are young - work hard all of their lives - and then leave the lot to the church !!

All of those old folks who have worked hard and own their own home and have a nice little savings nest end up giving it all to their local church parish only to do what with it ? Hoard it of course and not pass it on to the needy !! Not a bad scam !!

none of your business, you lazy, greedy sod.

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Reply #46 - Mar 15^th, 2013 at 4:18pm

Emma wrote on Mar 14^th, 2013 at 1:36am:

hello CW

I would NEVER leave my money to a church Angry

They are ALL foul in the eyes of Jehovah ... or Yahweh ,,or ?

No I'm leaving MY fortune to various NON-PROFIT orgs... looking out, in real time , for what I consider worth preserving in this world.
That does NOT include Churches..

you will find that the majority of non-profits and NGOs asre run or were started by churches. if we left it to you atheists to do the work of feeding the poor, they'd all just die.

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corporate_whitey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8896 Archivist	Re: How many old people leave everything to a church ? Reply #47 - Mar 15^th, 2013 at 4:20pm You must ensure that your money is given directly to the material aid of the poor and that the Corporate world or the State Gets none of it...do not bequeath your money to the state nor to philanthropy...
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Reply #48 - Mar 15^th, 2013 at 8:06pm

As I said Longo..one of the bequests is to a beneficial group Kids off the Streets...based in Sydney, but I first came across them in a op-shop in country Vic/...

Father Reilly I believe ,, been a while... but ... in any case... it was the cause, not the provider that was the reason. I actually had to tussle with myself a bit, cos I don't approve of church institutions... but this seemed different.
Inlight of the recent bad press .. I might have to resort to google or Bing to check it out more thoroughly.

The rest are definitely NOT church run... perhaps you need to widen your view a bit, if you really believe most npo's and charities are church-based. That is not necessarily so..

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corporate_whitey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8896 Archivist	Re: How many old people leave everything to a church ? Reply #49 - Mar 15^th, 2013 at 8:19pm Don't leave your money to the State or Philanthropy, it is Gods will for you to leave it to his work and to Charity to help the poor...Be faithful with what God has blessed you with as you prepare to meet him...
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Emma Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9853 OZ Gender:	Re: How many old people leave everything to a church ? Reply #50 - Mar 15^th, 2013 at 8:24pm presumably that is your intent... if you have anything to leave.... I look at things a little more deeply than the dogma of religious mania. and I don't believe a word you say CW but I do find you amusing, albeit in a dark sort of way.
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Reply #51 - Mar 15^th, 2013 at 8:53pm

As you prepare to donate your esate...do not donate to any cause that julia Gillard, Tony Abbott, Peter Reith or John Howard world support...forget about the state, forget about tyhe rich and their philanthropy, God wants youto give to his work, which is helpingthe poor and to his workers who are helping them...this is Jesus will and by your faithfulness to him you will be rewarded...

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corporate_whitey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8896 Archivist	Re: How many old people leave everything to a church ? Reply #52 - Mar 15^th, 2013 at 9:01pm Never never never bequeath your estate to the State...you well know politicians will add it to their own Pension funds...they award themselves enough money as itis...dont feed this devil, feed Gods people, the poor...
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Reply #53 - Mar 15^th, 2013 at 10:06pm

Money is a key thing God expects you to be faithful with because it is unrighteous and it is the root of all evil...God expects you to be a faithful wize Steward with the money he entrusts to you, not to be a mindless Steward...so please pray about how you would spoend every cent and what direction God is leading you to give and bequeath to bring him honor and glory...the work of God is feediung the hungry and the poor...Be faithful with money, dont be a consumer...dont spend it unrighteously and selfishly as the Demon Atheists do...

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Emma Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9853 OZ Gender:	Re: How many old people leave everything to a church ? Reply #54 - Mar 15^th, 2013 at 10:32pm actually CW it is the LOVE of money that is the root of evil... not money itself. st timothy?? I seem to remember he fell out of favour with the hierarchy..
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Re: How many old people leave everything to a church ?
Reply #55 - Mar 15^th, 2013 at 10:35pm

Emma wrote on Mar 15^th, 2013 at 8:06pm:

As I said Longo..one of the bequests is to a beneficial group Kids off the Streets...based in Sydney, but I first came across them in a op-shop in country Vic/...

Father Reilly I believe ,, been a while... but ... in any case... it was the cause, not the provider that was the reason. I actually had to tussle with myself a bit, cos I don't approve of church institutions... but this seemed different.
Inlight of the recent bad press .. I might have to resort to google or Bing to check it out more thoroughly.

The rest are definitely NOT church run... perhaps you need to widen your view a bit, if you really believe most npo's and charities are church-based. That is not necessarily so..

you can believe it or not. or research it. But you might be very very surprised to find that the vast majority of charitable organisations are church run or church initiated. Are you even aware that schooling for anyone but the elite was a church initiative? Or the age of consent (firstly a mere 10yo) - brought in by pressure of Christians and opposed by the atheists of the time.

Slavery... ended by pressure from Christians.
Social welfare - started by the church and still to a large degree delivered by it.

if you want to give to an organisation with no Church affiliation past or present, you may find it harder than you think.

Just something to consider when you next feel the need to berate the church over its failings. perhaps its failings exceed the atheist's contribution by a significant margin?

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Reply #56 - Mar 15^th, 2013 at 10:37pm

Emma wrote on Mar 15^th, 2013 at 8:24pm:

presumably that is your intent... if you have anything to leave....

I look at things a little more deeply than the dogma of religious mania.

and I don't believe a word you say CW

but I do find you amusing, albeit in a dark sort of way.

well his paranoid schizophrenia is enchanting at times or at least entertaining in its utter stupidity and how it rarely has any relevance to the thread at hand.

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Re: How many old people leave everything to a church ?
Reply #57 - Mar 15^th, 2013 at 10:44pm

Emma wrote on Mar 15^th, 2013 at 10:32pm:

actually CW

it is the LOVE of money that is the root of evil... not money itself.
st timothy?? I seem to remember he fell out of favour with the hierarchy..

Yes you are splitting hairs, God expects you to be faithful and obey his commanments...if you cannot be faithful with money you cannot be faithful with God...The work of Jesus is with the poor and this is where he would have people direct their money.,.,Jesus could not hasve been any plainer...go and give all you have to the poor and follow him...You cannot get around this and rationalize it away, money must not be used unrighteously for mindless consumption or self indulgence of the rich...Demons live this way...

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Re: How many old people leave everything to a church ?
Reply #58 - Mar 15^th, 2013 at 10:46pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 15^th, 2013 at 10:37pm:

Emma wrote on Mar 15^th, 2013 at 8:24pm:

presumably that is your intent... if you have anything to leave....

I look at things a little more deeply than the dogma of religious mania.

and I don't believe a word you say CW

but I do find you amusing, albeit in a dark sort of way.

well his paranoid schizophrenia is enchanting at times or at least entertaining in its utter stupidity and how it rarely has any relevance to the thread at hand.

Longweekend, the atheist Demon pretending to be a Christian and ascribing meaning to Jesus Christ exactly the opposite of everything he taught...you are a liar and you are doomed...

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corporate_whitey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8896 Archivist	Re: How many old people leave everything to a church ? Reply #59 - Mar 15^th, 2013 at 10:50pm The work of Jesus is with the suffering, the poor and the afflicted and it is here that God is asking all people to bequeath his money. God does not want you donating to the state or Philanthropy...All money belongs to God, he has entrusted it to you to use it faithfully...
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