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Re: How many old people leave everything to a church ?
Reply #75 - Mar 16^th, 2013 at 11:28am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 5:21am:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 15^th, 2013 at 10:35pm:

you can believe it or not. or research it. But you might be very very surprised to find that the vast majority of charitable organisations are church run or church initiated.

That is because most churches (and others are offshoots from same) are from the old days before ppl were educated and new about science. We are growing out of that now but the churches remain.

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So caring for the poor is something that should only be done when society is uneducated and doesn't know science?

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Re: How many old people leave everything to a church ?
Reply #76 - Mar 16^th, 2013 at 11:43am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 5:21am:

That is because most churches (and others are offshoots from same) are from the old days before ppl were educated and new about science. We are growing out of that now but the churches remain.

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When exactly do you think that people got "educated" and learnt about "science"?

You actually show how uneducated you are with your ignorance on just how educated people were 1000, 2000, 3000, etc years ago. You're another modern day angry atheist that acts as if humans were living in caves up till 100 years ago. Also typical of people like you is the attitude that intelligence and Christianity are opposite to each other and only atheist have a brain. Funny enough thought despite your continual suggestions that religious people are dumb and atheists are smart, you happen to be the stupidest person on this forum. Your post above is proof of that.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 106219 Melbourne Gender:	Re: How many old people leave everything to a church ? Reply #77 - Mar 16^th, 2013 at 11:47am Quote: how educated people were 1000, 2000, 3000, etc years ago Education was very poor in those times. Only very few people could read & write. Quantum - you're a fool & Gizmo is smarter than you although that wouldn't be hard.
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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: How many old people leave everything to a church ? Reply #78 - Mar 16^th, 2013 at 11:53am and it is only in relatively recent times that science wasn't done almost entirely by the Church as was art literature and music. The positive atheist contribution to history is largely nonexistent
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Re: How many old people leave everything to a church ?
Reply #79 - Mar 16^th, 2013 at 12:19pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 11:53am:

and it is only in relatively recent times that science wasn't done almost entirely by the Church as was art literature and music. The positive atheist contribution to history is largely nonexistent

Because everyone was religious back in the old days. Now we know better - or some of us do.

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Re: How many old people leave everything to a church ?
Reply #80 - Mar 16^th, 2013 at 12:20pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 11:28am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 5:21am:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 15^th, 2013 at 10:35pm:

you can believe it or not. or research it. But you might be very very surprised to find that the vast majority of charitable organisations are church run or church initiated.

That is because most churches (and others are offshoots from same) are from the old days before ppl were educated and new about science. We are growing out of that now but the churches remain.

SOB

So caring for the poor is something that should only be done when society is uneducated and doesn't know science?

Awwwww it has no argument so it twists things to look like they mean something else . . ..

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Re: How many old people leave everything to a church ?
Reply #81 - Mar 16^th, 2013 at 12:21pm

Quantum wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 11:43am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 5:21am:

That is because most churches (and others are offshoots from same) are from the old days before ppl were educated and new about science. We are growing out of that now but the churches remain.

SOB

When exactly do you think that people got "educated" and learnt about "science"?

You actually show how uneducated you are with your ignorance on just how educated people were 1000, 2000, 3000, etc years ago. You're another modern day angry atheist that acts as if humans were living in caves up till 100 years ago. Also typical of people like you is the attitude that intelligence and Christianity are opposite to each other and only atheist have a brain. Funny enough thought despite your continual suggestions that religious people are dumb and atheists are smart, you happen to be the stupidest person on this forum. Your post above is proof of that.

Hahaha. You believe in an invisible sky fairy that controls your entire life and listens to you. Now THAt is funny!

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Re: How many old people leave everything to a church ?
Reply #82 - Mar 16^th, 2013 at 12:37pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 11:47am:

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how educated people were 1000, 2000, 3000, etc years ago

Education was very poor in those times.
Only very few people could read & write.

Quantum - you're a fool & Gizmo is smarter than you although that wouldn't be hard.

Very few people could type 50 years ago. Does that make every one back then uneducated? Reading and writing back then was limited due to the limited availability of written materials as well as writing ones. That doesn't make people stupid. By your reasoning Einstein was a moron because he didn't watch YouTube videos.

There is a pattern of human civilizations thinking that their generation is much smarter than the last one. It shows a lack of appreciation and awareness of the knowledge of people in the past, as well as an unjustified arrogance in the intelligence of people today. Having access to a modern piece of technology like a smartphone doesn't make someone intelligent. Too many people today take credit for the advances in technology without actually having contributed to it.

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Re: How many old people leave everything to a church ?
Reply #83 - Mar 16^th, 2013 at 12:40pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 12:21pm:

Quantum wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 11:43am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 5:21am:

That is because most churches (and others are offshoots from same) are from the old days before ppl were educated and new about science. We are growing out of that now but the churches remain.

SOB

When exactly do you think that people got "educated" and learnt about "science"?

You actually show how uneducated you are with your ignorance on just how educated people were 1000, 2000, 3000, etc years ago. You're another modern day angry atheist that acts as if humans were living in caves up till 100 years ago. Also typical of people like you is the attitude that intelligence and Christianity are opposite to each other and only atheist have a brain. Funny enough thought despite your continual suggestions that religious people are dumb and atheists are smart, you happen to be the stupidest person on this forum. Your post above is proof of that.

Hahaha. You believe in an invisible sky fairy that controls your entire life and listens to you. Now THAt is funny!

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Exactly my point spot. Your no different to a racist or sexist person. It is the same attitude that creates those other isms. In your mind anyone who is not an atheist is an idiot. That is an extremely closed minded view and you have done nothing to support that position.

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John Smith Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 74948 Gender:	Re: How many old people leave everything to a church ? Reply #84 - Mar 16^th, 2013 at 12:54pm Quantum wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 12:40pm: In your mind anyone who is not an atheist is an idiot. Except that it is true ... . . . . . Idiot, however, does not mean uneducated ...
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Re: How many old people leave everything to a church ?
Reply #85 - Mar 16^th, 2013 at 1:56pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 12:54pm:

Quantum wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 12:40pm:

In your mind anyone who is not an atheist is an idiot.

Except that it is true ...
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Idiot, however, does not mean uneducated ...

Wow. More evidence of the sickness spreading through atheism today, hence why many atheist try to separate themselves from them. Atheism today has simply become another worldview that positions itself as intellectually superior to all else and looks down on anyone who doesn't conform. It on the one hand will blame all religion for all of the world problems, whilst being unable to self reflect and see in its self the very traits it condemns in others. Even agnostics are not immune from being looked down upon by today's atheist. If you don't actively hate those who have any form of belief you're listed with the "idiots". Hardly a sign of having real intellectual superiority.

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Re: How many old people leave everything to a church ?
Reply #86 - Mar 16^th, 2013 at 2:14pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 11:47am:

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how educated people were 1000, 2000, 3000, etc years ago

Education was very poor in those times.
Only very few people could read & write.

Quantum - you're a fool & Gizmo is smarter than you although that wouldn't be hard.

Bobby, that still puts Quantum light years ahead of you...Literary skills are NOT the sole basis for education..

And just so you know, literacy levels in Ancient Greece, Ancient Rome and Ancient Israel were higher than the Western World of the early 1800s..

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It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Re: How many old people leave everything to a church ?
Reply #88 - Mar 16^th, 2013 at 2:29pm

Quantum wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 1:56pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 12:54pm:

Quantum wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 12:40pm:

In your mind anyone who is not an atheist is an idiot.

Except that it is true ...
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.
.
.
.
Idiot, however, does not mean uneducated ...

Wow. More evidence of the sickness spreading through atheism today, hence why many atheist try to separate themselves from them. Atheism today has simply become another worldview that positions itself as intellectually superior to all else and looks down on anyone who doesn't conform. It on the one hand will blame all religion for all of the world problems, whilst being unable to self reflect and see in its self the very traits it condemns in others. Even agnostics are not immune from being looked down upon by today's atheist. If you don't actively hate those who have any form of belief you're listed with the "idiots". Hardly a sign of having real intellectual superiority.

what a pile of utter hogwash .... I call them idiots not because I am intellectually superior, but because in my opinion, anyone that believes in fairy tales, ogres, mystical beings that rule over the world or any other such nonsense can only be described as an idiot ... how else can someone justify a belief in something that doesn't exist? If anyone is looking down at anyone it is the religious zealots with their holier than though attitude ... get over yourself .. you want to believe it, fine, I don't tell you what to believe or not, but, in return I claim the right to believe that you are an idiot for doing so ... again, it's a faith thing ... you don't need to understand it, it is just what I believe ... or is that whole faith things solely reserved for when religious nuts cannot explain themselves?

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