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Re: Who Are The Real Bludgers.
Reply #60 - Mar 15^th, 2013 at 4:58am

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 14^th, 2013 at 7:22pm:

Kat wrote on Mar 14^th, 2013 at 8:37am:

QUOTE:- 'Wealthfare is a myth..."

Well there goes any smidgen of credibility YOU ever had on the topic (which was never much).

It's not only a fact, it's what's screwing genuine welfare recips out of their share of the welfare pie.

And, IMO, the only reason the Libs are so popular is because the middle-class thinks Tony will
continue and increase their wealthfare, while continuing to marginalise genuine recips.

Sadly, they are probably correct.

**Those who denigrate the poor, deserve to JOIN them.**

you really are a fool at times and this is one of them. The libs you love to denigrate have increased welfare payments to the poor by a much higher amount that labor govts in the last 30 years. Who began family assistance packages? FRASER.

grow up and develop an opinion on something beyond the bloody level of the dole!

Hangon. What are "family assistance packages"? Something whitlam started renamed or more wealthfare or what?

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Re: Who Are The Real Bludgers.
Reply #61 - Mar 15^th, 2013 at 5:43pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 15^th, 2013 at 4:58am:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 14^th, 2013 at 7:22pm:

Kat wrote on Mar 14^th, 2013 at 8:37am:

QUOTE:- 'Wealthfare is a myth..."

Well there goes any smidgen of credibility YOU ever had on the topic (which was never much).

It's not only a fact, it's what's screwing genuine welfare recips out of their share of the welfare pie.

And, IMO, the only reason the Libs are so popular is because the middle-class thinks Tony will
continue and increase their wealthfare, while continuing to marginalise genuine recips.

Sadly, they are probably correct.

**Those who denigrate the poor, deserve to JOIN them.**

you really are a fool at times and this is one of them. The libs you love to denigrate have increased welfare payments to the poor by a much higher amount that labor govts in the last 30 years. Who began family assistance packages? FRASER.

grow up and develop an opinion on something beyond the bloody level of the dole!

Hangon. What are "family assistance packages"? Something whitlam started renamed or more wealthfare or what?

SOB

research it you brain-dead spastic.

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Re: Who Are The Real Bludgers.
Reply #62 - Mar 15^th, 2013 at 5:45pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 14^th, 2013 at 10:38pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 14^th, 2013 at 7:22pm:

Kat wrote on Mar 14^th, 2013 at 8:37am:

QUOTE:- 'Wealthfare is a myth..."

Well there goes any smidgen of credibility YOU ever had on the topic (which was never much).

It's not only a fact, it's what's screwing genuine welfare recips out of their share of the welfare pie.

And, IMO, the only reason the Libs are so popular is because the middle-class thinks Tony will
continue and increase their wealthfare, while continuing to marginalise genuine recips.

Sadly, they are probably correct.

**Those who denigrate the poor, deserve to JOIN them.**

you really are a fool at times and this is one of them. The libs you love to denigrate have increased welfare payments to the poor by a much higher amount that labor govts in the last 30 years. Who began family assistance packages? FRASER.

grow up and develop an opinion on something beyond the bloody level of the dole!

you mean things like rent assistance which is just more indirect corporate welfare under the guise of helping out the needy which it doesn't do at all Sad

sounds like someone doesnt get rent assistance so he thinks no one shoudl get it.

you are EASILY the angriest and most bitter poster on here - by a mile.

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Re: Who Are The Real Bludgers.
Reply #63 - Mar 16^th, 2013 at 5:41am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 13^th, 2013 at 1:30pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Mar 13^th, 2013 at 1:25pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 13^th, 2013 at 12:51pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Mar 13^th, 2013 at 12:15pm:

Swagman wrote on Mar 13^th, 2013 at 11:58am:

Mostly bull manure.....

Quote:

John Watson is an Age senior writer

...he's also a 'true believer' and as one is unable to understand cause and effect, and specifically the effect that disincentive has on people's actions. He does not understand that rewarding something creates more of it, and that rewarding need creates more need and rewarding welfare dependents creates more welfare dependents.....

More crap from Swagman who fails to understand people have to eat to live.

I tell you what, how about these people get a fking job?
Or is that too much to ask.

I tell YOU what, Kaffir hater. How about you getting some fking
humanity?
Or is that too much to ask?

how about you provide ANY evidence whatsoever that I made any comment relating to kaffirs?
Or do you just describe anyone with Afrikaner heritage as racists in that 'one blanket fits all' Left wing way of yours?

Throw it out there sheep-shagger.

You want evidence, Andrei?

On February 22' at 3.31pm, under a thread entitled wrong Paul Howes, you posted the following:

"Kaffirs were the blacks. They had the spears.
We had guns and took their heads off with them.
Shame we handed South Africa to a bunch of imbeciles to wreck"

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Re: Who Are The Real Bludgers.
Reply #64 - Mar 16^th, 2013 at 6:33am

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 15^th, 2013 at 5:43pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 15^th, 2013 at 4:58am:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 14^th, 2013 at 7:22pm:

Kat wrote on Mar 14^th, 2013 at 8:37am:

QUOTE:- 'Wealthfare is a myth..."

Well there goes any smidgen of credibility YOU ever had on the topic (which was never much).

It's not only a fact, it's what's screwing genuine welfare recips out of their share of the welfare pie.

And, IMO, the only reason the Libs are so popular is because the middle-class thinks Tony will
continue and increase their wealthfare, while continuing to marginalise genuine recips.

Sadly, they are probably correct.

**Those who denigrate the poor, deserve to JOIN them.**

you really are a fool at times and this is one of them. The libs you love to denigrate have increased welfare payments to the poor by a much higher amount that labor govts in the last 30 years. Who began family assistance packages? FRASER.

grow up and develop an opinion on something beyond the bloody level of the dole!

Hangon. What are "family assistance packages"? Something whitlam started renamed or more wealthfare or what?

SOB

research it you brain-dead spastic.

you brought it up you explain it

Obviously something fraser renamed

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Re: Who Are The Real Bludgers.
Reply #65 - Mar 16^th, 2013 at 7:03am

Waste of time discussing anything welfare-related with these dills, Spot. Unless it's going into THEIR hands.

Notice they can't even discuss it without denigrating, belittling, name-calling and abuse. Because it's all they have.

They're in the wrong and they KNOW it.

Their sense of superiority and self-entitlement is enough to make anyone who believes in a fair go physically sick.

They are ALL about protecting their wealthfare, (which they claim either doesn't exist, or insist is somehow their 'right')
and don't care who suffers, or how much. As long as it isn't THEM.

See the screams when I suggested that this is the main reason some of them support the Con-alition? Fair bet that
a Con-alition govt would continue to grow the wealthfare pie at the expense of the genuinely needy.

The point is, those of us who support a fair go for WELFARE recips, not wealthfare, are NOT going away, and are in
fact growing and getting more vocal by the day, and WILL NOT STOP until the needy get their fair share, and the
wealthfare train is derailed for good.

I'll drop the matter when it's beeen resolved in favour of the genuine welfare recips, and the unemployed/single
parents get their LONG overdue, fair and just increase.

And NOT BEFORE. So get used to it.......

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Re: Who Are The Real Bludgers.
Reply #66 - Mar 16^th, 2013 at 7:12am

Kat wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 7:03am:

Waste of time discussing anything welfare-related with these dills, Spot. Unless it's going into THEIR hands.

Notice they can't even discuss it without denigrating, belittling, name-calling and abuse. Because it's all they have.

They're in the wrong and they KNOW it.

Their sense of superiority and self-entitlement is enough to make anyone who believes in a fair go physically sick.

They are ALL about protecting their wealthfare, (which they claim either doesn't exist, or insist is somehow their 'right')
and don't care who suffers, or how much. As long as it isn't THEM.

See the screams when I suggested that this is the main reason some of them support the Con-alition? Fair bet that
a Con-alition govt would continue to grow the wealthfare pie at the expense of the genuinely needy.

The point is, those of us who support a fair go for WELFARE recips, not wealthfare, are NOT going away, and are in
fact growing and getting more vocal by the day, and WILL NOT STOP until the needy get their fair share, and the
wealthfare train is derailed for good.

I'll drop the matter when it's beeen resolved in favour of the genuine welfare recips, and the unemployed/single
parents get their LONG overdue, fair and just increase.

And NOT BEFORE. So get used to it.......

Keep up the good work, Kat.....

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Re: Who Are The Real Bludgers.
Reply #67 - Mar 16^th, 2013 at 7:38am

Kat wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 7:03am:

Waste of time discussing anything welfare-related with these dills, Spot. Unless it's going into THEIR hands.

Notice they can't even discuss it without denigrating, belittling, name-calling and abuse. Because it's all they have.

They're in the wrong and they KNOW it.

Their sense of superiority and self-entitlement is enough to make anyone who believes in a fair go physically sick.

They are ALL about protecting their wealthfare, (which they claim either doesn't exist, or insist is somehow their 'right')
and don't care who suffers, or how much. As long as it isn't THEM.

See the screams when I suggested that this is the main reason some of them support the Con-alition? Fair bet that
a Con-alition govt would continue to grow the wealthfare pie at the expense of the genuinely needy.

The point is, those of us who support a fair go for WELFARE recips, not wealthfare, are NOT going away, and are in
fact growing and getting more vocal by the day, and WILL NOT STOP until the needy get their fair share, and the
wealthfare train is derailed for good.

I'll drop the matter when it's beeen resolved in favour of the genuine welfare recips, and the unemployed/single
parents get their LONG overdue, fair and just increase.

And NOT BEFORE. So get used to it.......

maybe if you had an opinion beyond 'i want more dole' you might be treated better. that is ALL you ever go on about as if there are no other issues around?

The people you complain about are the people who pay you your dole or welfare already. bithcing about 'i want more' is never going to win you support. try a new tack, ok?

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Re: Who Are The Real Bludgers.
Reply #68 - Mar 16^th, 2013 at 10:55am

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 7:38am:

Kat wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 7:03am:

Waste of time discussing anything welfare-related with these dills, Spot. Unless it's going into THEIR hands.

Notice they can't even discuss it without denigrating, belittling, name-calling and abuse. Because it's all they have.

They're in the wrong and they KNOW it.

Their sense of superiority and self-entitlement is enough to make anyone who believes in a fair go physically sick.

They are ALL about protecting their wealthfare, (which they claim either doesn't exist, or insist is somehow their 'right')
and don't care who suffers, or how much. As long as it isn't THEM.

See the screams when I suggested that this is the main reason some of them support the Con-alition? Fair bet that
a Con-alition govt would continue to grow the wealthfare pie at the expense of the genuinely needy.

The point is, those of us who support a fair go for WELFARE recips, not wealthfare, are NOT going away, and are in
fact growing and getting more vocal by the day, and WILL NOT STOP until the needy get their fair share, and the
wealthfare train is derailed for good.

I'll drop the matter when it's beeen resolved in favour of the genuine welfare recips, and the unemployed/single
parents get their LONG overdue, fair and just increase.

And NOT BEFORE. So get used to it.......

maybe if you had an opinion beyond 'i want more dole' you might be treated better. that is ALL you ever go on about as if there are no other issues around?

The people you complain about are the people who pay you your dole or welfare already. bithcing about 'i want more' is never going to win you support. try a new tack, ok?

Try a new tack, yourself, sunshine. Try being tolerant for a change. Kat has support from many here, the only supporters you have are the whinging right wingers who consider they have the right to mind other people's business.

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Re: Who Are The Real Bludgers.
Reply #69 - Mar 16^th, 2013 at 11:07am

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 7:38am:

maybe if you had an opinion beyond 'i want more dole' you might be treated better. that is ALL you ever go on about as if there are no other issues around?The people you complain about are the people who pay you your dole or welfare already. bithcing about 'i want more' is never going to win you support. try a new tack, ok?

what a looser.

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Re: Who Are The Real Bludgers.
Reply #70 - Mar 16^th, 2013 at 11:08am

Peter Freedman wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 10:55am:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 7:38am:

Kat wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 7:03am:

Waste of time discussing anything welfare-related with these dills, Spot. Unless it's going into THEIR hands.

Notice they can't even discuss it without denigrating, belittling, name-calling and abuse. Because it's all they have.

They're in the wrong and they KNOW it.

Their sense of superiority and self-entitlement is enough to make anyone who believes in a fair go physically sick.

They are ALL about protecting their wealthfare, (which they claim either doesn't exist, or insist is somehow their 'right')
and don't care who suffers, or how much. As long as it isn't THEM.

See the screams when I suggested that this is the main reason some of them support the Con-alition? Fair bet that
a Con-alition govt would continue to grow the wealthfare pie at the expense of the genuinely needy.

The point is, those of us who support a fair go for WELFARE recips, not wealthfare, are NOT going away, and are in
fact growing and getting more vocal by the day, and WILL NOT STOP until the needy get their fair share, and the
wealthfare train is derailed for good.

I'll drop the matter when it's beeen resolved in favour of the genuine welfare recips, and the unemployed/single
parents get their LONG overdue, fair and just increase.

And NOT BEFORE. So get used to it.......

maybe if you had an opinion beyond 'i want more dole' you might be treated better. that is ALL you ever go on about as if there are no other issues around?

The people you complain about are the people who pay you your dole or welfare already. bithcing about 'i want more' is never going to win you support. try a new tack, ok?

Try a new tack, yourself, sunshine. Try being tolerant for a change. Kat has support from many here, the only supporters you have are the whinging right wingers who consider they have the right to mind other people's business.

if you had half the comprehension capacity that a supposed former journo would have you would have noticed that I wasnt opposing his position but rather his repeated, boring, ad nauseum repetitions of it. We are all heartily sick of the 'give me more' mentality of people and even more so when it is repeated again and again and again.

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corporate_whitey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8896 Archivist	Re: Who Are The Real Bludgers. Reply #72 - Mar 16^th, 2013 at 12:31pm Please give money directly to Charities that are doing the work of Jesus, don't be a consumer...the most frightening words to a poor person are "I am from the Government and I am here to help' the poor have only Charity to rely on because the State is crucifying them like they did to Jesus...
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74634 Gender:	Re: Who Are The Real Bludgers. Reply #73 - Mar 16^th, 2013 at 12:58pm Peter Freedman wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 12:30pm: Who is "we" sunshine? I am sick or your whining and whinging. 'we' is longlooser, goldmedal, and all the other voices in his head.
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corporate_whitey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8896 Archivist	Re: Who Are The Real Bludgers. Reply #74 - Mar 16^th, 2013 at 2:41pm The poor want charity not welfare...treat the poor like you would Jesus, because he is one of them...What you fail to do for the poor you fail to do for Jesus...
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