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Reply #15 - Mar 14th, 2013 at 1:19pm
 
Obviously quoting yourself ends the argument.

The Emperor has spoken.
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Reply #16 - Mar 14th, 2013 at 3:02pm
 
It is kind of amusing to find the common tea baggers defending Rupert Murdochs media empire because good old Rupert has always been fond of destroying anyone and everything by any means possible that gets in his way.
Lets be honest Murdoch doesn't give a rats tossbag about freedom, democracy or honesty.
Maybe it makes these "common" people feel closer to multi billionaire media barons if they jump up and down about their freedom to print any old rubbish no matter how big a lie it is.
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Reply #17 - Mar 14th, 2013 at 3:13pm
 
red baron wrote on Mar 13th, 2013 at 4:26pm:
So, as I predicted months ago on this site, here it finally comes.

Stephen Conroy has been busier than a rat chewing its way to freedom with the new bundle of Media Laws.

You can read this as, the Government are legislating freedom of speech out of existence.

I can't wait to read the fine print on this one and I wonder just how long, sites like this which are truly FREE will last.

Is Labor going to incorporate the Swastika in their emblem and start rounding us troublemakers who dare to tell the truth up?

Won't be long before we will see brown shirts on the street (Hitler's bash goons) rounding up anyone who challenges this crooked bunch called Labor.


I'm sure that the Canberra Press and our ABC won't be prosecuted for any sh*t that they throw at the conservatives.

Gillard will approve, clapping her unclean hands.

By "unclean", I don't mean honest dirt but various signed documents.
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Reply #18 - Mar 14th, 2013 at 3:19pm
 
Buzz and Diddg - who is going to be the chosen one then who decides what is truthful and what is not truthful

You guys should know better than  anyone that Censorship is. sh.t and the opposite end of the spectrum to a vibrant and free press...whatever the opinion.

What is that American saying, "I vehemently disagree with what you say but I will fight to the death for your right to say it."
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Reply #19 - Mar 14th, 2013 at 3:32pm
 
Stephen Conroy's Totalitarianism for Dummies

1984 is possibly the definitive dystopian novel, set in a world beyond our imagining. A world where totalitarianism really is total, all power split into three roughly equal groups--Eastasia, Eurasia, and Oceania. 1984 is set in Oceania, which includes the United Kingdom, where the story is set, known as Airstrip One.

Winston Smith is a middle-aged, unhealthy character, based loosely on Orwell's own frail body, an underling of the ruling oligarchy, The Party. The Party has taken early 20th century totalitarianism to new depths, with each person subjected to 24 hour surveillance, where people's very thoughts are controlled to ensure purity of the oligarchical system in place. Figurehead of the system is the omnipresent and omnipotent Big Brother.




But Winston believes there is another way.

1984 joins Winston as he sets about another day, where his job is to change history by changing old newspaper records to match with the new truth as decided by the Party.

"He who controls the past, controls the future" is a Party slogan to live by and it gives Winston his job, but Winston cannot see it like that. Barely old enough to recall a time when things were different, he sets out to expose the Party for the cynically fraudulent organisation that it is. He is joined by Julia,(No not Gillard!!! She is Big Brother!!) a beautiful young woman much in contrast with Winston physically, but equally sickened by the excesses of her rulers.
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Reply #20 - Mar 14th, 2013 at 4:38pm
 
Red, I am still waiting for you to stop regurgitating conservative propaganda and explain the threat to press freedom!
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Reply #21 - Mar 14th, 2013 at 4:57pm
 
The schmedia have opened themselves to an attack on their self declared 'freedom.'  Whatever that 'freedom' really is does not extend to political manipulation as we so obviously now have.  We also see a stepping over the line in their reports on other matters.  I give you two recent examples in Queensland.  The first was the 'Dr Death' incitement, and the second is their utterly disgraceful activity concerning those girls who were the subject of an international custody dispute.  The 'Courier Mail' contrary to Law, published their photographs....and there is alleged to be a prosecution about that.  Do we hear about it in the schmedia?  No way.  They keep their transgressions unreported while at the same time swoop like vultures on the alleged transgressions of others.

They have attracted the flies with their own sh1t. 

On the Federal level.....the Ashby/Slipper and Rares Judgement is the most momentous in judicial/political relevance.  There, the Judiciary declared that conspirators sought without foundation, to bring down the Government of the day.  Various political figures were fingered, and a member of the schmedia was barely spared.

A truly independant and free schmedia would have been all over this, relentlessly unleashing their investigative section to bring us the truth.  What did we get?  Nothing.

Okay.....the Judiciary will do the job as it always does, and where will the schmedia be when the sh1t hits the fan? 
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Reply #22 - Mar 14th, 2013 at 6:14pm
 
Well Peter it's the C word I'm worried about...you know C..e..n..s..o..r..s..h..i..p, oh bugger, now I've really spilled the lollies!

Perhaps we could get the new Pontiff to do the censoring in his spare time. Can you imagine the bunch of Gillard cronies that would walk into that job?
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Reply #23 - Mar 14th, 2013 at 6:16pm
 
Red, that's a statement not an explanation. Conroy's legislation only kicks in AFTER publication......how the bugger can that be censorship?
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Reply #24 - Mar 14th, 2013 at 6:17pm
 
red baron wrote on Mar 14th, 2013 at 6:14pm:
Well Peter it's the C word I'm worried about...you know C..e..n..s..o..r..s..h..i..p, oh bugger, now I've really spilled the lollies!

Perhaps we could get the new Pontiff to do the censoring in his spare time. Can you imagine the bunch of Gillard cronies that would walk into that job?


Can you please explain in detail (or in 'retard' if you like) this 'censorship?'

Huh
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Reply #25 - Mar 14th, 2013 at 6:28pm
 
That's right it is a statement. I am stating that if Conroy's legislation gets through, the agenda for Labor will be to become invasive in every form of media there is, including forums like this.

There will be heavy censorship for any fair minded person speaking their mind and if it is anti Labor then God help them...that is what I am stating.
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Reply #26 - Mar 14th, 2013 at 6:32pm
 
red baron wrote on Mar 14th, 2013 at 6:28pm:
That's right it is a statement. I am stating that if Conroy's legislation gets through, the agenda for Labor will be to become invasive in every form of media there is, including forums like this.

There will be heavy censorship for any fair minded person speaking their mind and if it is anti Labor then God help them...that is what I am stating.


Yes....we all know 'you' are stating it.  Show me the detail.......show me documents which back up 'your' statements.  Is that too hard a task for you?

Huh

Your Thread RB.  When will I get your answers?

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Reply #27 - Mar 14th, 2013 at 6:41pm
 
red baron wrote on Mar 14th, 2013 at 6:28pm:
That's right it is a statement. I am stating that if Conroy's legislation gets through, the agenda for Labor will be to become invasive in every form of media there is, including forums like this.

There will be heavy censorship for any fair minded person speaking their mind and if it is anti Labor then God help them...that is what I am stating.


Once an article is published it cannot be censored. Surely you understand that?
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Reply #28 - Mar 14th, 2013 at 7:14pm
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Mar 14th, 2013 at 1:01pm:
buzzanddidj wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 5:54pm:



We have come to expect legislated TRUTH in ADVERTISING - and RIGHTLY SO

Should we DEMAND anything LESS from JOURNALISM ?













truth in advertising is a bit easier to define than truth in journalism. There have been relatively few articles that have been factually incorrect and certainly no more than were back when the media loved rudd and the ALP. What seems to annoy the labor party is that they have been a govt that has lurched from one diastrous policy to another punctuated by scandal and corruption.  newspapers and meida in general tend to only print the bad news and the juicy scandals and screwups. Perhaps if labor provided less fodder for the media then there would be less to complain about.

the media is not biased. they generally do not like labor, but incase you are not reading the polls, neither does most of the voting public either.

you didnt see a hissy fit from howard over anti-liberal sentiment during 2006/7. he has too much class for that. that kind of pitiful whining is always the labor way and in particular Conroy who seems to have a particularl love of censorship per se.
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Reply #29 - Mar 14th, 2013 at 7:27pm
 
red baron wrote on Mar 14th, 2013 at 3:19pm:
Buzz and Diddg - who is going to be the chosen one then who decides what is truthful and what is not truthful

You guys should know better than  anyone that Censorship is. sh.t and the opposite end of the spectrum to a vibrant and free press...whatever the opinion.

What is that American saying, "I vehemently disagree with what you say but I will fight to the death for your right to say it."


im fascinated by how buzzard can defend media censorship but vehemently opposed internet censorship.  But alas, the explanation is so disappointingly obvious. While I originally thought that the buzzard was opposing censorship as a principle, I now see that he was merely opposing censorhip on what HE reads. he doesnt read newspapers or much of the MSM so therefore censorship is okay. but touch his beloved internet???  never!

principled positions are rarer than honest labor politicians.
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