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Re: Conroy's sneak attack on Freedom of Press
Reply #75 - Mar 16^th, 2013 at 12:09pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 6:57am:

Here's what I don't understand - why the rush to get this passed into law next week??? What is so urgent that it needs to be passed so soon?

It's because Labor does everything in a hurry except call an early election to put a halt to the wreckage.
Is there one Labor politician equipped with common sense?

Yes, Simon Crean who has been treated with scorn.

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Reply #76 - Mar 16^th, 2013 at 12:14pm

Kat wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 7:35am:

Of course, let's all ignore the obvious here.....

The real issue is that far too much of the 'media' has been concentrated into the hands of FAR too few people.

You CANNOT have a diverse range of opinions (political, social, moral or otherwise) when two or three men
control everything that's written/broadcast.

If THEY are biased, it follows that the news they deliver will also be biased.

The more players in the news game, the better. Too few is a disaster, and is one that govt legislation helped
to create.

I don't think that most hosts on 2GB are biased - whatever they say happens to be the truth.

If Labor had been ruling sensibly, I'm sure that they would have been commended.

We, on the right, are not just being snobbish, far from it! We just expect a PM and his treasurer to govern for the good of their people, not for the good of UN or by another word, communism.

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Reply #77 - Mar 16^th, 2013 at 12:17pm

Peter Freedman wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 11:23am:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 15^th, 2013 at 4:39pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Mar 14^th, 2013 at 6:16pm:

Red, that's a statement not an explanation. Conroy's legislation only kicks in AFTER publication......how the bugger can that be censorship?

how the hell is that NOT censorship? you get punished after-the-fact once and after that... you toe the line as indicated by the govt censor. It is as effecitvely a censorship regime as if someone had to approve articles pre-publication.

In 1951, during the waterfront lockout in NZ a conservative government made it illegal to publish the wharfies' side of the story.

A policeman was stationed in the print room of major newspapers to check the edition before it could be sold.

Now that is censorship. This isn't.

Right, that, in 1951 was censorship and the same is being threatened by Labor bast*rds today.

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The_Barnacle Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6205 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Conroy's sneak attack on Freedom of Press Reply #78 - Mar 16^th, 2013 at 12:18pm olde.sault wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 12:14pm: If Labor had been ruling sensibly, I'm sure that they would have been commended. Bwahahahhha funniest thing I have heard all year
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Reply #79 - Mar 16^th, 2013 at 12:20pm

red baron wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 10:45am:

Dnarever and Peter, you are both experienced and should recognise this what it is, the thin end of the wedge.

Once you start something like this there is no going back. A huge problem with this is the grey areas and its more like a black cloud. All this sh.t being frantically rushed through in a week and short, short, short on detail

I don't trust politicians they are the slimiest dogs in the land, almost up there with lawyers.

Once they give themselves power to muzzle what they don't like there will be no end to it.

Surely, you can see the inherent dangers in this set up which is designed to muzzle criticism of Labor which is crippled.

My hope is that Malcolm Turnbull has promised to repeal the law when the Liberals get in, and they will get in.

I believe Turnbull's word on this.

Why are you so sure that Turnbull will be in the position to repeal anything?

I'm sure the Coalition, in one body will do so.

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olde.sault Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2913	Re: Conroy's sneak attack on Freedom of Press Reply #80 - Mar 16^th, 2013 at 12:22pm The_Barnacle wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 12:03pm: The Coalition are always very careful not to say or do anything that might upset the Murdoch press. They know the consequences if they dont. Indeed, conservatives don't go in for legal battles - too costly!
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Reply #81 - Mar 16^th, 2013 at 12:25pm

olde.sault wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 12:22pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 12:03pm:

The Coalition are always very careful not to say or do anything that might upset the Murdoch press.
They know the consequences if they dont.

Indeed, conservatives don't go in for legal battles - too costly!

so they are worried about big business taking them to court? So rather than fight for the good of the country they run away and hide? is that what you are saying? I think it's a pretty sad reflection on you when you chose a PM you know hasn't the balls to fight for what he thinks is right . I can only hope that if Abbott becomes PM no other country decides to challenge us over some obscure territory ... Abbott will give them the whole country.

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Reply #82 - Mar 16^th, 2013 at 12:37pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 12:25pm:

olde.sault wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 12:22pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 12:03pm:

The Coalition are always very careful not to say or do anything that might upset the Murdoch press.
They know the consequences if they dont.

Indeed, conservatives don't go in for legal battles - too costly!

so they are worried about big business taking them to court? So rather than fight for the good of the country they run away and hide? is that what you are saying? I think it's a pretty sad reflection on you when you chose a PM you know hasn't the balls to fight for what he thinks is right . I can only hope that if Abbott becomes PM no other country decides to challenge us over some obscure territory ... Abbott will give them the whole country.

HANG ON THATS the ITALIAN WAY Wink

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Reply #83 - Mar 16^th, 2013 at 12:48pm

FRED. wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 12:37pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 12:25pm:

olde.sault wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 12:22pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 12:03pm:

The Coalition are always very careful not to say or do anything that might upset the Murdoch press.
They know the consequences if they dont.

Indeed, conservatives don't go in for legal battles - too costly!

so they are worried about big business taking them to court? So rather than fight for the good of the country they run away and hide? is that what you are saying? I think it's a pretty sad reflection on you when you chose a PM you know hasn't the balls to fight for what he thinks is right . I can only hope that if Abbott becomes PM no other country decides to challenge us over some obscure territory ... Abbott will give them the whole country.

HANG ON THATS the ITALIAN WAY Wink

says the little girl hiding behind his keyboard.

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Re: Conroy's sneak attack on Freedom of Press
Reply #84 - Mar 16^th, 2013 at 12:53pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 12:48pm:

FRED. wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 12:37pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 12:25pm:

olde.sault wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 12:22pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 12:03pm:

The Coalition are always very careful not to say or do anything that might upset the Murdoch press.
They know the consequences if they dont.

Indeed, conservatives don't go in for legal battles - too costly!

so they are worried about big business taking them to court? So rather than fight for the good of the country they run away and hide? is that what you are saying? I think it's a pretty sad reflection on you when you chose a PM you know hasn't the balls to fight for what he thinks is right . I can only hope that if Abbott becomes PM no other country decides to challenge us over some obscure territory ... Abbott will give them the whole country.

HANG ON THATS the ITALIAN WAY Wink

says the little girl hiding behind his keyboard.

and what are you hiding behind big mommas skirt Grin

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Reply #85 - Mar 16^th, 2013 at 12:56pm

FRED. wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 12:53pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 12:48pm:

FRED. wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 12:37pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 12:25pm:

olde.sault wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 12:22pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 12:03pm:

The Coalition are always very careful not to say or do anything that might upset the Murdoch press.
They know the consequences if they dont.

Indeed, conservatives don't go in for legal battles - too costly!

so they are worried about big business taking them to court? So rather than fight for the good of the country they run away and hide? is that what you are saying? I think it's a pretty sad reflection on you when you chose a PM you know hasn't the balls to fight for what he thinks is right . I can only hope that if Abbott becomes PM no other country decides to challenge us over some obscure territory ... Abbott will give them the whole country.

HANG ON THATS the ITALIAN WAY Wink

says the little girl hiding behind his keyboard.

and what are you hiding behind big mommas skirt Grin

Nope, I'm hiding behind your mommas skirt .... have you anything relevant to say dopey? perhaps you can tell us what this mysterious legislation is? no one else seems to know

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KJT1981 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1822	Re: Conroy's sneak attack on Freedom of Press Reply #86 - Mar 16^th, 2013 at 4:58pm Quote: Nope, I'm hiding behind your mommas skirt .... have you anything relevant to say dopey? perhaps you can tell us what this mysterious legislation is? no one else seems to know It didn't take you long to do it again Giovanni.
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john_g Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1549 Gender:	Re: Conroy's sneak attack on Freedom of Press Reply #87 - Mar 16^th, 2013 at 6:59pm It looks like this may prove to be the straw that broke the camel's back for Gillard's leadership.
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Re: Conroy's sneak attack on Freedom of Press
Reply #88 - Mar 16^th, 2013 at 9:31pm

KJT1981 wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 4:58pm:

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Nope, I'm hiding behind your mommas skirt .... have you anything relevant to say dopey? perhaps you can tell us what this mysterious legislation is? no one else seems to know

It didn't take you long to do it again Giovanni.

do what again Ky Gel? Ask a relevant question?

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Reply #89 - Mar 16^th, 2013 at 9:51pm

olde.sault wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 12:17pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 11:23am:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 15^th, 2013 at 4:39pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Mar 14^th, 2013 at 6:16pm:

Red, that's a statement not an explanation. Conroy's legislation only kicks in AFTER publication......how the bugger can that be censorship?

how the hell is that NOT censorship? you get punished after-the-fact once and after that... you toe the line as indicated by the govt censor. It is as effecitvely a censorship regime as if someone had to approve articles pre-publication.

In 1951, during the waterfront lockout in NZ a conservative government made it illegal to publish the wharfies' side of the story.

A policeman was stationed in the print room of major newspapers to check the edition before it could be sold.

Now that is censorship. This isn't.

Right, that, in 1951 was censorship and the same is being threatened by Labor bast*rds today.

Is it?????? can you show us how????

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