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Your Part in Abbott’s Downfall
Mar 14th, 2013 at 4:33am
 
Note to all Pubketeers:  This post isn’t by me, it’s by Vote1Julia. It appears under my name only as a sponsored post.

It contains some great ideas and is 100% appropriate for today, the anniversary of Keating’s amazing victory in 1993.

Enjoy…

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Yesterday, March 13th is the twentieth anniversary of PM Keating’s 1993 election victory. Keating said on the night,



“This is the Sweetest Victory of All, this is a Victory for the True Believers; the people who in difficult times have kept the faith..[this is] very much a victory of Australian values because it was Australian values on the line and the Liberal Party wanted to change Australia from the country it’s become, a cooperative, decent nice, place to live, where people have regard for one another…..”



Never have words from our political history had such prophetic relevance to today’s political situation.

The coming Federal Election is not “Labor v. Coalition” but “Labor + Australian Values v. Coalition”, representing the vested interests of Murdoch OM + Money Moguls.

Labor can win in 6 months’ time but it cannot rely on any of the following happening:

Abbott unhinging. He hasn’t so far and any gaffes will be ignored / spun away by OM.

  • The AFP investigating the Ashby / Slipper affair and exposing the coalition’s role in the conspiracy.
  • The Craig Thomson affair being exposed as a setup.
  • The ABC returning to unbiased political reportage.
  • The ALP being given a fair go in getting its policies communicated by OM.



Labor can and will win by focussing on policies that underpin these Australian Values. It has such policies in abundance.

The NDIS, the NBN, an affordable Paid Parental Scheme, MRRT, Carbon Price, Tax, Health & Hospital Reform, Education & Training, better targeted Welfare (to pensioners & lower income families) are ones that come to mind.

Abbott’s Coalition have no policies based on Australian Values – just the vested interests of the few in the Privateer Class who only want to plunder Australians’ wealth.

However, Old Media will not call them out on it. They will not report that Emperor Apparent Abbott has no clothes.

Whether it is groupthink that the Government has lost anyway, or as Paul Barry said on Q & A, wtte “… if you want to work in Australian journalism don’t piss off Rupert Murdoch,” they will not report fact but foist upon us opinion based on falsehood.

So our Labor Government’s excellent values policy messages are ignored and the OM focuses on sensationalist faux leadershit, and the polls, the POLLS, THE POLLS. They are (paraphrasing) like the sheep in Orwell’s Animal Farm, “Labor everything bad, Coalition everything good (anything bad: ignore)”.

The WA state election result has driven the shills into overdrive. It is all over for Labor. Yeah right. They said the same about Keating in 1993. It was going to be Hewson’s “Unloseable Election” just like today it is going to be Abbott’s unloseable election.

Well, it’s time for some mulesing of the sheep in the Australian media pack (and if some “accidential” castration occurs to the rams, that’s just collateral damage.)

We need to bypass the OM. You and I as individuals can make a difference and play an important role in Abbott’s coming downfall.

To demonstrate this, I am going to make some broad quantitative psephological assumptions to make a qualitative point. (Apologies to Antony Green and Andrew Catsaras if they ever read this.)

In the 2010 election there were 12,402,363 votes. 2PP was 50.12%(Labor) : 49.88% (Coalition) with Labor suffering a swing against it of 2.58%

I am assuming in 2013 there will 13,000,000 votes (To keep the maths simple).

I also will assume that Labor will have a net swing of 1.5% in 2013 (this represents 195,000 votes). This is feasible as they enjoyed 1.54% swing in 1993 and 1.5% represents a claw back of 58% of the swing against them in 2010. 195,000 votes can be achieved. (Labor was also written off by a shrill OM way before the election, just like today. So 1993 is a valid electoral comparison IMHO.)

This would mean (assuming a uniform swing and holding on to all existing seats) that Labor would win according to Antony Green’s 2013 Electoral Pendulum six seats, namely Boothby(SA) LIB 0.6%, Hasluck (WA) LIB 0.6%, Aston (VIC) LIB 0.7%, Dunkley (VIC) LIB 1.1%, Brisbane (QLD) LNP 1.1% and Macquarie (NSW) LIB 1.3%. An additional 6 six seats would give Labor 78 seats in the new Parliament, just like they achieved in 1993.




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Reply #1 - Mar 14th, 2013 at 4:36am
 
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This 1.5% swing I assume will come from Labor Party campaigning.

Now imagine if we bloggers and lurkers in cyberspace would fully utilize social media to get Labor’s values policies out, expose the coalition’s lack of such policies and counterattack the bullshit they spin daily in the OM.

Could we, by blogging, twittering, facebooking and emailing add another 0.1% to Labor’s swing? This would mean Labor winning an additional 7th seat, Forde (Qld) LNP 1.6%. Based on my assumptions this additional 0.1% represents 13,000 votes.

Can we change 13,000 voters’ minds?

You bet we bloody can!

There are many good progressive Australian blogs. There is no one definitive best blog.

Of course, each blog and its posters believes theirs is better than many others. But that is not the point.

The idea is to take the best of each and cross post links so word can spread fast. Use Twitter and Facebook to do so.

One blog site, The Political Sword, comes to mind. TPS has developed a great resource called TPS M@il where one can quickly and easily email Federal politicians and political journos.

We can let others know of their response (or lack thereof) – a powerful tool for us in the Fifth Estate to overcome the laziness and ineptitude of those in the Fourth Estate.

We can pool our meagre resources to counteract the vast amount of spin and bullshit that OM uses to sustain Abbott and the coalition in the faux lead in the current polls. The polls will tighten closer to the election.

(Lo and behold the latest Newspoll as this blog is being written is 48:52 to the Coalition.)

OK bloggers: make a difference in 2013, play your role in Abbott’s coming downfall in September. Get active in social media, get the 0.1% additional swing, its only about 13,000 votes. WE CAN DO IT!

You don’t have to blog. You can just cross post links to sites with good posts. Let everyone know in your circle know. Cut & paste, tweet and retweet, facebook, email.

JUST DO IT!!



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Reply #2 - Mar 14th, 2013 at 7:45am
 
is anyone else sick and tired of C&P... from lefty blogs... is wiseman BEING PAID? I AM ALMOST SURE HE IS>>

he is the only one that reads himself anyway...

when we see that twit sobbing outside Parliament house when gillard throws in the towel.. we will know its you valleyboy.. Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry

you can take her for a shandy down at the Kingston footy club.. she will like that.

maybe the Labor Club but thats a bit far to take a broken women
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Reply #3 - Mar 14th, 2013 at 7:50am
 
cods wrote on Mar 14th, 2013 at 7:45am:
he is the only one that reads himself anyway...


since you reply to most of his posts it's obvious he isn't the only one who reads his posts ... I suppose lying comes naturally to you doesn't it .
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Reply #4 - Mar 14th, 2013 at 8:12am
 
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This is the Sweetest Victory of All, this is a Victory for the True Believers; the people who in difficult times have kept the faith..[this is] very much a victory of Australian values because it was Australian values on the line and the Liberal Party wanted to change Australia from the country it’s become, a cooperative, decent nice, place to live, where people have regard for one another…..”


Yes how I cringe when I hear that moron and his oh so  arrogant speech.  The GST election when Keating sold Australia down the garden path just so he could get a few more years in the chair to feed his humongously arrogant ego.

Hewson's "Fightback" if implemented as proposed would arguably have seen fiscally a very different Australia than at present.

One of those classic turning points.

Dragging this speech out as some sort of poster boy for the Labor party is hilarious. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Just think of what that extra 5% GST income for the last 20years would have done to the nation's health and education systems. that is Labor's perpetual whinging pot.

Keating and his block brained heard of supporters sliced off their Collective noses to spite their comrade faces in one of Australian political history's greatest balls ups.

We got the GST eventually, a doddery watered down version but 1993 was a crucially missed opportunity
due to idiot Keating and his heard of idiot True Believers......
(take a bow Wisey)

....I suspect that many of Ozpol resident Lefties barrrrrrred along to Keating's song and now have the ultimate incredible hide to whinge about health, education and welfare funding.... Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry





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Reply #5 - Mar 14th, 2013 at 8:37am
 
cods wrote on Mar 14th, 2013 at 7:45am:
is anyone else sick and tired of C&P... from lefty blogs... is wiseman BEING PAID? I AM ALMOST SURE HE IS>>

he is the only one that reads himself anyway...

when we see that twit sobbing outside Parliament house when gillard throws in the towel.. we will know its you valleyboy.. Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry

you can take her for a shandy down at the Kingston footy club.. she will like that.

maybe the Labor Club but thats a bit far to take a broken women



He has the right to post whatever he likes within the guidelines of the forum Fishwife.   Roll Eyes  Instead of constantly berating people, why don't you try a bit of debate?  By the way, I notice you nearly choke with glee when something from Pickering or Micheal Smith is posted as cut and paste.  If you are going to continue to whine about cut and paste, at least be consistent.
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Reply #6 - Mar 14th, 2013 at 8:54am
 
John Smith wrote on Mar 14th, 2013 at 7:50am:
cods wrote on Mar 14th, 2013 at 7:45am:
he is the only one that reads himself anyway...


since you reply to most of his posts it's obvious he isn't the only one who reads his posts ... I suppose lying comes naturally to you doesn't it .




DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! where did I say I read them??????????????what an idiot.
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Reply #7 - Mar 14th, 2013 at 8:58am
 
cods wrote on Mar 14th, 2013 at 8:54am:
John Smith wrote on Mar 14th, 2013 at 7:50am:
cods wrote on Mar 14th, 2013 at 7:45am:
he is the only one that reads himself anyway...


since you reply to most of his posts it's obvious he isn't the only one who reads his posts ... I suppose lying comes naturally to you doesn't it .




DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! where did I say I read them??????????????what an idiot.


I've seen you complain that he cuts and pastes and must be paid by labor to post on here on at least 5 or 6 threads over the last month or so, that in itself proves you read them .... you wouldn't complain that an article you haven't read is false now would you cods?
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Reply #8 - Mar 14th, 2013 at 8:59am
 
Vic wrote on Mar 14th, 2013 at 8:37am:
cods wrote on Mar 14th, 2013 at 7:45am:
is anyone else sick and tired of C&P... from lefty blogs... is wiseman BEING PAID? I AM ALMOST SURE HE IS>>

he is the only one that reads himself anyway...

when we see that twit sobbing outside Parliament house when gillard throws in the towel.. we will know its you valleyboy.. Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry

you can take her for a shandy down at the Kingston footy club.. she will like that.

maybe the Labor Club but thats a bit far to take a broken women



He has the right to post whatever he likes within the guidelines of the forum Fishwife.   Roll Eyes  Instead of constantly berating people, why don't you try a bit of debate?  By the way, I notice you nearly choke with glee when something from Pickering or Micheal Smith is posted as cut and paste.  If you are going to continue to whine about cut and paste, at least be consistent.




really good job I couldnt give a bleep about what you think isnt it??.. so dumb and boring..

you debate valleyboy???? I find it too hard to debate a C&P...I prefer to debate with actual people that are in the forum...something valleyboy doesnt do very much of..


perhaps you might care to take a leaf out of your own book and not berate others...instead give them something to debate on??

maybe thats a bit hard..
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Reply #9 - Mar 14th, 2013 at 9:01am
 
Vic wrote on Mar 14th, 2013 at 8:37am:
cods wrote on Mar 14th, 2013 at 7:45am:
is anyone else sick and tired of C&P... from lefty blogs... is wiseman BEING PAID? I AM ALMOST SURE HE IS>>

he is the only one that reads himself anyway...

when we see that twit sobbing outside Parliament house when gillard throws in the towel.. we will know its you valleyboy.. Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry

you can take her for a shandy down at the Kingston footy club.. she will like that.

maybe the Labor Club but thats a bit far to take a broken women



He has the right to post whatever he likes within the guidelines of the forum Fishwife.   Roll Eyes  Instead of constantly berating people, why don't you try a bit of debate?  By the way, I notice you nearly choke with glee when something from Pickering or Micheal Smith is posted as cut and paste.  If you are going to continue to whine about cut and paste, at least be consistent.



Trouble with cods and most of the righties on here they think that what is in News Limited papers is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

I C&P from other web sites to put the other side of the argument and they don't want to know about it.
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Reply #10 - Mar 14th, 2013 at 9:04am
 
John Smith wrote on Mar 14th, 2013 at 8:58am:
cods wrote on Mar 14th, 2013 at 8:54am:
John Smith wrote on Mar 14th, 2013 at 7:50am:
[quote author=cods link=1363199624/2#2 date=1363211100]he is the only one that reads himself anyway...


since you reply to most of his posts it's obvious he isn't the only one who reads his posts ... I suppose lying comes naturally to you doesn't it .




DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! where did I say I read them??????????????what an idiot.


I've seen you complain that he cuts and pastes and must be paid by labor to post on here on at least 5 or 6 threads over the last month or so, that in itself proves you read them .... you wouldn't complain that an article you haven't read is false now would you cods?[/quote]


I have complained about his c&p.. because I dont read them and many others dont either...but its the first time I have accused him of being paid.. unlike you lot that constantly claim macca is paid... just getting one back thats all...


again where I have said its FALSE????

this guy is no better than macca except macca does at least use his own thoughts and not someone elses..


glad you read me though.. I avoid you like the plague..am replying here because  I get a bit sick of your lies thats all.


when you print up something about me make sure you have the link... I cant stand liars....loath them with a passion.
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Reply #11 - Mar 14th, 2013 at 9:04am
 
cods wrote on Mar 14th, 2013 at 8:59am:
Vic wrote on Mar 14th, 2013 at 8:37am:
cods wrote on Mar 14th, 2013 at 7:45am:
is anyone else sick and tired of C&P... from lefty blogs... is wiseman BEING PAID? I AM ALMOST SURE HE IS>>

he is the only one that reads himself anyway...

when we see that twit sobbing outside Parliament house when gillard throws in the towel.. we will know its you valleyboy.. Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry

you can take her for a shandy down at the Kingston footy club.. she will like that.

maybe the Labor Club but thats a bit far to take a broken women



He has the right to post whatever he likes within the guidelines of the forum Fishwife.   Roll Eyes  Instead of constantly berating people, why don't you try a bit of debate?  By the way, I notice you nearly choke with glee when something from Pickering or Micheal Smith is posted as cut and paste.  If you are going to continue to whine about cut and paste, at least be consistent.




really good job I couldnt give a bleep about what you think isnt it??.. so dumb and boring..

you debate valleyboy???? I find it too hard to debate a C&P...I prefer to debate with actual people that are in the forum...something valleyboy doesnt do very much of..


perhaps you might care to take a leaf out of your own book and not berate others...instead give them something to debate on??

maybe thats a bit hard..



nope, you simply prefer to converse with others that agree with you and anytime anyone debates with you you start the whole 'lefties thommo' thing .. ... I've seen countless threads where the only replies are from yourself, progs and maqqa (usually on maqqa's more obscure threads) all telling each other how clever you are .. you know you can train a parrot to say whatever you want it to say ... Cods is great Cods is great ... arrhhh

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Reply #12 - Mar 14th, 2013 at 9:06am
 
I am not sure you can use the word 'clever' in a thread started by the Wise One, who is quite frankly one of the thickest blokes I have come across is some years.
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Reply #13 - Mar 14th, 2013 at 9:06am
 
representing the vested interests of Murdoch OM + Money Moguls.


Stopped reading right there, anothe crap blog that any Lib hater on here could write...

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Reply #14 - Mar 14th, 2013 at 9:12am
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 14th, 2013 at 9:06am:
I am not sure you can use the word 'clever' in a thread started by the Wise One, who is quite frankly one of the thickest blokes I have come across is some years.





you have noticed of course neither vallyboy or JS debate the topic anyway????


thats whats so funny they only like debating righties...think they know all about us... yawnnnnnnnnnnn[


quote author=Rosco link=1363199624/13#13 date=1363216009]representing the vested interests of Murdoch OM + Money Moguls.


Stopped reading right there, anothe crap blog that any Lib hater on here could write...

*yawns* [/quote]



of course...wouldnt want the other side of the coin would we...
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