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Reply #30 - Mar 14th, 2013 at 1:03pm
 
We seem to have had a pretty good original post of an articly well worth while but it seems to have degenerated into a debate about how smart Andrei is and how stupid other people may be.

The questions asked are valid and reasonable? The diversion away from the topic is typical.

In terms of intelligence I have found a lot possibly almost the majority of well educated people to be almost competent in what they were taught but in general not very intelligent people.

Education is more about finances and persistence than intelligence.

A number of people here who seem to have one track thinking capabilities are not as clever as they think they are.

Plenty of people who have impressive degrees are as dumb as dog doo doo.

I went to Uni with some guys who couldn't cook toast if their life depended on it and no more chance of boiling water - not joking, two of them qualified as Lawyers.
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Re: Your Part in Abbott’s Downfall
Reply #31 - Mar 14th, 2013 at 2:17pm
 
Swagman wrote on Mar 14th, 2013 at 8:12am:
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This is the Sweetest Victory of All, this is a Victory for the True Believers; the people who in difficult times have kept the faith..[this is] very much a victory of Australian values because it was Australian values on the line and the Liberal Party wanted to change Australia from the country it’s become, a cooperative, decent nice, place to live, where people have regard for one another…..”


Yes how I cringe when I hear that moron and his oh so  arrogant speech.  The GST election when Keating sold Australia down the garden path just so he could get a few more years in the chair to feed his humongously arrogant ego.

Hewson's "Fightback" if implemented as proposed would arguably have seen fiscally a very different Australia than at present.

One of those classic turning points.

Dragging this speech out as some sort of poster boy for the Labor party is hilarious. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Just think of what that extra 5% GST income for the last 20years would have done to the nation's health and education systems. that is Labor's perpetual whinging pot.

Keating and his block brained heard of supporters sliced off their Collective noses to spite their comrade faces in one of Australian political history's greatest balls ups.

We got the GST eventually, a doddery watered down version but 1993 was a crucially missed opportunity
due to idiot Keating and his heard of idiot True Believers......
(take a bow Wisey)

....I suspect that many of Ozpol resident Lefties barrrrrrred along to Keating's song and now have the ultimate incredible hide to whinge about health, education and welfare funding.... Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry



Seeing as the talk got side tracked I have repeated my post Smiley
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Reply #32 - Mar 14th, 2013 at 2:54pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 14th, 2013 at 12:54pm:
The going rate for a 6 year post qualified accountant at Director level - which is me - is $480 per hour my friend.

Taking my annual salary divided by the hours worked, I also operate on $145 per hour.

So let's move on shall we you retard.



Have you got 2 dicks andrei cause you couldn't be that stupid thinking that we believe you when you say you earn $480.00 p/h that works out to $19200 p/w and no company would pay that much money for accountant.
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Reply #33 - Mar 14th, 2013 at 2:58pm
 
John S wrote on Mar 14th, 2013 at 2:54pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 14th, 2013 at 12:54pm:
The going rate for a 6 year post qualified accountant at Director level - which is me - is $480 per hour my friend.

Taking my annual salary divided by the hours worked, I also operate on $145 per hour.

So let's move on shall we you retard.



Have you got 2 dicks andrei cause you couldn't be that stupid thinking that we believe you when you say you earn $480.00 p/h that works out to $19200 p/w and no company would pay that much money for accountant.


Sorry sweet checks in the real world people do earn that much     Wink Wink
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Re: Your Part in Abbott’s Downfall
Reply #34 - Mar 14th, 2013 at 3:02pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Mar 14th, 2013 at 1:03pm:
We seem to have had a pretty got original post of an artily well worth while but it seems to have degenerated into a debate about how smart Andrei is and how stupid other people may be.

The questions asked are valid and reasonable? The diversion away from the topic is typical.

In terms of intelligence I have found a lot possibly almost the majority of well educated people to be almost competent in what they were taught but in general not very intelligent people.

Education is more about finances and persistence than intelligence.

A number of people here who seem to have one track thinking capabilities are not as clever as they think they are.

Plenty of people who have impressive degrees are as dumb as dog doo doo.

I went to Uni with some guys who couldn't cook toast if their life depended on it and no more chance of boiling water - not joking, two of them qualified as Lawyers.

The conga line always change the subject when they know they can't defend the Ineptitude  of phony tony and their own selfish beliefs.
As for Andrei, I don't think anyone takes him serious, he is so contradictory that I believe Lisa Greek is correct, he is nothing but a welfare recipient paying two dollars an hour for the use of the inTARDNet at a Geelong Internet cafe.
I am kind of looking forward to their excuses for the Liberal party if they win government, because they will need plenty of them. The sad thing is I can already here the replies, IT'S ALL LABORS FAULT, imbeciles know no different.
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Re: Your Part in Abbott’s Downfall
Reply #35 - Mar 14th, 2013 at 3:04pm
 
FRED. wrote on Mar 14th, 2013 at 2:58pm:
John S wrote on Mar 14th, 2013 at 2:54pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 14th, 2013 at 12:54pm:
The going rate for a 6 year post qualified accountant at Director level - which is me - is $480 per hour my friend.

Taking my annual salary divided by the hours worked, I also operate on $145 per hour.

So let's move on shall we you retard.



Have you got 2 dicks andrei cause you couldn't be that stupid thinking that we believe you when you say you earn $480.00 p/h that works out to $19200 p/w and no company would pay that much money for accountant.


Sorry sweet checks in the real world people do earn that much     Wink Wink

Yea not pen pushing plebs though. Andrei is no Brad Pitt.
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Reply #36 - Mar 14th, 2013 at 3:07pm
 
Vic wrote on Mar 14th, 2013 at 8:37am:
cods wrote on Mar 14th, 2013 at 7:45am:
is anyone else sick and tired of C&P... from lefty blogs... is wiseman BEING PAID? I AM ALMOST SURE HE IS>>

he is the only one that reads himself anyway...

when we see that twit sobbing outside Parliament house when gillard throws in the towel.. we will know its you valleyboy.. Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry

you can take her for a shandy down at the Kingston footy club.. she will like that.

maybe the Labor Club but thats a bit far to take a broken women



He has the right to post whatever he likes within the guidelines of the forum Fishwife.   Roll Eyes  Instead of constantly berating people, why don't you try a bit of debate?  By the way, I notice you nearly choke with glee when something from Pickering or Micheal Smith is posted as cut and paste.  If you are going to continue to whine about cut and paste, at least be consistent.


Bigvicfella,

I note that you place punctuation appropriately most of the time.

In your last post, one was missing - between "forum  Fishwife"...

Please feel free to correct my grammar.  In the past, I paid a lot to tutors, getting free correction is a plus.
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Re: Your Part in Abbott’s Downfall
Reply #37 - Mar 14th, 2013 at 3:09pm
 
John S wrote on Mar 14th, 2013 at 4:33am:
Note to all Pubketeers:  This post isn’t by me, it’s by Vote1Julia. It appears under my name only as a sponsored post.

It contains some great ideas and is 100% appropriate for today, the anniversary of Keating’s amazing victory in 1993.

Enjoy…

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Quote:
Yesterday, March 13th is the twentieth anniversary of PM Keating’s 1993 election victory. Keating said on the night,



“This is the Sweetest Victory of All, this is a Victory for the True Believers; the people who in difficult times have kept the faith..[this is] very much a victory of Australian values because it was Australian values on the line and the Liberal Party wanted to change Australia from the country it’s become, a cooperative, decent nice, place to live, where people have regard for one another…..”



Never have words from our political history had such prophetic relevance to today’s political situation.

The coming Federal Election is not “Labor v. Coalition” but “Labor + Australian Values v. Coalition”, representing the vested interests of Murdoch OM + Money Moguls.

Labor can win in 6 months’ time but it cannot rely on any of the following happening:

Abbott unhinging. He hasn’t so far and any gaffes will be ignored / spun away by OM.

  • The AFP investigating the Ashby / Slipper affair and exposing the coalition’s role in the conspiracy.
  • The Craig Thomson affair being exposed as a setup.
  • The ABC returning to unbiased political reportage.
  • The ALP being given a fair go in getting its policies communicated by OM.



Labor can and will win by focussing on policies that underpin these Australian Values. It has such policies in abundance.

The NDIS, the NBN, an affordable Paid Parental Scheme, MRRT, Carbon Price, Tax, Health & Hospital Reform, Education & Training, better targeted Welfare (to pensioners & lower income families) are ones that come to mind.

Abbott’s Coalition have no policies based on Australian Values – just the vested interests of the few in the Privateer Class who only want to plunder Australians’ wealth.

However, Old Media will not call them out on it. They will not report that Emperor Apparent Abbott has no clothes.

Whether it is groupthink that the Government has lost anyway, or as Paul Barry said on Q & A, wtte “… if you want to work in Australian journalism don’t piss off Rupert Murdoch,” they will not report fact but foist upon us opinion based on falsehood.

So our Labor Government’s excellent values policy messages are ignored and the OM focuses on sensationalist faux leadershit, and the polls, the POLLS, THE POLLS. They are (paraphrasing) like the sheep in Orwell’s Animal Farm, “Labor everything bad, Coalition everything good (anything bad: ignore)”.

The WA state election result has driven the shills into overdrive. It is all over for Labor. Yeah right. They said the same about Keating in 1993. It was going to be Hewson’s “Unloseable Election” just like today it is going to be Abbott’s unloseable election.

Well, it’s time for some mulesing of the sheep in the Australian media pack (and if some “accidential” castration occurs to the rams, that’s just collateral damage.)

We need to bypass the OM. You and I as individuals can make a difference and play an important role in Abbott’s coming downfall.

To demonstrate this, I am going to make some broad quantitative psephological assumptions to make a qualitative point. (Apologies to Antony Green and Andrew Catsaras if they ever read this.)

In the 2010 election there were 12,402,363 votes. 2PP was 50.12%(Labor) : 49.88% (Coalition) with Labor suffering a swing against it of 2.58%

I am assuming in 2013 there will 13,000,000 votes (To keep the maths simple).

I also will assume that Labor will have a net swing of 1.5% in 2013 (this represents 195,000 votes). This is feasible as they enjoyed 1.54% swing in 1993 and 1.5% represents a claw back of 58% of the swing against them in 2010. 195,000 votes can be achieved. (Labor was also written off by a shrill OM way before the election, just like today. So 1993 is a valid electoral comparison IMHO.)

This would mean (assuming a uniform swing and holding on to all existing seats) that Labor would win according to Antony Green’s 2013 Electoral Pendulum six seats, namely Boothby(SA) LIB 0.6%, Hasluck (WA) LIB 0.6%, Aston (VIC) LIB 0.7%, Dunkley (VIC) LIB 1.1%, Brisbane (QLD) LNP 1.1% and Macquarie (NSW) LIB 1.3%. An additional 6 six seats would give Labor 78 seats in the new Parliament, just like they achieved in 1993.




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What "downfall" have I missed?
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Re: Your Part in Abbott’s Downfall
Reply #38 - Mar 14th, 2013 at 3:28pm
 
Swagman wrote on Mar 14th, 2013 at 2:17pm:
Swagman wrote on Mar 14th, 2013 at 8:12am:
Quote:
This is the Sweetest Victory of All, this is a Victory for the True Believers; the people who in difficult times have kept the faith..[this is] very much a victory of Australian values because it was Australian values on the line and the Liberal Party wanted to change Australia from the country it’s become, a cooperative, decent nice, place to live, where people have regard for one another…..”


Yes how I cringe when I hear that moron and his oh so  arrogant speech.  The GST election when Keating sold Australia down the garden path just so he could get a few more years in the chair to feed his humongously arrogant ego.

Hewson's "Fightback" if implemented as proposed would arguably have seen fiscally a very different Australia than at present.

One of those classic turning points.

Dragging this speech out as some sort of poster boy for the Labor party is hilarious. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Just think of what that extra 5% GST income for the last 20years would have done to the nation's health and education systems. that is Labor's perpetual whinging pot.

Keating and his block brained heard of supporters sliced off their Collective noses to spite their comrade faces in one of Australian political history's greatest balls ups.

We got the GST eventually, a doddery watered down version but 1993 was a crucially missed opportunity
due to idiot Keating and his heard of idiot True Believers......
(take a bow Wisey)

....I suspect that many of Ozpol resident Lefties barrrrrrred along to Keating's song and now have the ultimate incredible hide to whinge about health, education and welfare funding....


Seeing as the talk got side tracked I have repeated my post


Just think of what that extra 5% GST income for the last 20years would have done to the nation's health and education systems. that is Labor's perpetual whinging pot.

The Liberals under Howard were swimming in money and yet spent nothing on either Health and actually took money out of education???

Why do you think that giving more money to their mates would have made any difference overall.
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Reply #39 - Mar 14th, 2013 at 3:36pm
 
If he does, then my apologies. I just haven't seen it.

As for the article, Labor has no chance, and why should anyone be expect to vote for Gillard?

Labor has lost my vote indefinitely.
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Re: Your Part in Abbott’s Downfall
Reply #40 - Mar 14th, 2013 at 3:37pm
 
cods wrote on Mar 14th, 2013 at 8:54am:
John Smith wrote on Mar 14th, 2013 at 7:50am:
cods wrote on Mar 14th, 2013 at 7:45am:
he is the only one that reads himself anyway...


since you reply to most of his posts it's obvious he isn't the only one who reads his posts ... I suppose lying comes naturally to you doesn't it .




DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! where did I say I read them??????????????what an idiot.


Maybe reading would aid you in giving an informed reply.

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Re: Your Part in Abbott’s Downfall
Reply #41 - Mar 14th, 2013 at 3:50pm
 
John S wrote on Mar 14th, 2013 at 9:01am:
Vic wrote on Mar 14th, 2013 at 8:37am:
cods wrote on Mar 14th, 2013 at 7:45am:
is anyone else sick and tired of C&P... from lefty blogs... is wiseman BEING PAID? I AM ALMOST SURE HE IS>>

he is the only one that reads himself anyway...

when we see that twit sobbing outside Parliament house when gillard throws in the towel.. we will know its you valleyboy.. Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry

you can take her for a shandy down at the Kingston footy club.. she will like that.

maybe the Labor Club but thats a bit far to take a broken women



He has the right to post whatever he likes within the guidelines of the forum Fishwife.   Roll Eyes  Instead of constantly berating people, why don't you try a bit of debate?  By the way, I notice you nearly choke with glee when something from Pickering or Micheal Smith is posted as cut and paste.  If you are going to continue to whine about cut and paste, at least be consistent.



Trouble with cods and most of the righties on here they think that what is in News Limited papers is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

I C&P from other web sites to put the other side of the argument and they don't want to know about it.


Reading both sides of an argument appears to be a tad hard for some.

How often has it been posted on here....
When I saw her flaming red hair/heard her voice (and similar stupidity) I turned off the TV/ changed channels or whatever???

And these posts are from those who claim to be completely informed.

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Re: Your Part in Abbott’s Downfall
Reply #42 - Mar 14th, 2013 at 4:07pm
 
olde.sault wrote on Mar 14th, 2013 at 3:07pm:
Vic wrote on Mar 14th, 2013 at 8:37am:
cods wrote on Mar 14th, 2013 at 7:45am:
is anyone else sick and tired of C&P... from lefty blogs... is wiseman BEING PAID? I AM ALMOST SURE HE IS>>

he is the only one that reads himself anyway...

when we see that twit sobbing outside Parliament house when gillard throws in the towel.. we will know its you valleyboy.. Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry

you can take her for a shandy down at the Kingston footy club.. she will like that.

maybe the Labor Club but thats a bit far to take a broken women



He has the right to post whatever he likes within the guidelines of the forum Fishwife.   Roll Eyes  Instead of constantly berating people, why don't you try a bit of debate?  By the way, I notice you nearly choke with glee when something from Pickering or Micheal Smith is posted as cut and paste.  If you are going to continue to whine about cut and paste, at least be consistent.


Bigvicfella,

I note that you place punctuation appropriately most of the time.

In your last post, one was missing - between "forum  Fishwife"...

Please feel free to correct my grammar.  In the past, I paid a lot to tutors, getting free correction is a plus.



Hmm...  I am not sure what you are on about Old Sour Puss.  But I ran it through a web based check system
Result:

  Grammarly found no writing issues in your text.

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Perhaps your tutors took your dough and ran.  I hear there are a lot of salesmen in your area offering roof restorations - put them in the same boat as tutorsi









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Reply #43 - Mar 14th, 2013 at 4:10pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 14th, 2013 at 10:35am:
John Smith wrote on Mar 14th, 2013 at 10:33am:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 14th, 2013 at 10:19am:
I never said he didn't post his own views.

However I can usually tell his own views and what's been pasted by the spelling and Grammar.

He is, frankly, one of the thickest blokes I have come across. They only time he would have been near a university would be to come and cut the grass.


but you felt a need to defend someone who did say so .....

I've got bad news for you traitor .. you think he's thick, you should try reading some of the crap you put up.


I think you and I both know I am not thick.

You may disagree with my views and opinions but the level of education is not in question.
I don't agree with any of your views, aside from real estate, but I don't place you in the same category as The Wise One.

He is quite clearly, thick as mince.


Don't assume to know what I think ...

I actually think you are quite thick .. I don't care how well educated you are, there are many examples of educated idiots out there ........ you are incapable of following an debate in some sort of logical order, everything usually ends up with how much tax you do or do not pay and how great your car is ... you refer to people as racist and yet have no problem using race to defend your position, you criticize anyone on the left for their attitude and yet if someone from the right presents the same attitude you defend them  ...  you accuse people of being rusted on when you've never once given anyone a reason to think you are any different , and the thing that annoys me most about you is that you never  miss an opportunity to criticise Australia, instead of being grateful that you were lucky enough to be born here and given the opportunities you've been given ..... you are thick thick thick thick ,

I don't like you nor do I have any respect for what you stand for ... you continually cite your income as some sort of indicator of your intelligence when I in fact, I think that if you have to cite your income to prove how smart you are, you are not very smart.

now you can stop pretending to know what i think ... I think I've been clear enough !
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Reply #44 - Mar 14th, 2013 at 4:43pm
 
I liked this one:

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You missed out your attendance at Oxford University?


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