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Reply #15 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 11:45am

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 10:36am:

Its a simple case of the provider not catering to the market.

For example, I'll be donwloading the complete third season of Game of Thrones - starting today. Do I feel bad? Not at all.

The problem is that the market is for on-demand, but the industry continues to refuse to adjust to that demand. So if I wanted to watch GoT "legally", I would either have to purchase the pay TV channel that is allowed to air it or wait till the DVD box set is out.

F*ck that. What an absurdity, when there is nothing stopping HBO from a technical point of view from providing the series to me directly on demand through the internet. I would happily pay a premium if such a service existed. However it does not - yet the so called "pirates" have filled that market, and enabled me to see the series by a simple click of a mouse button.

I think Game of thrones is going on itunes, as a response to some of these complaints.

Not that i watch game of thrones, have itunes, or care that I am illegally "robbing studios and artists of their rightful income". I figure if teh government can rob me of my rightful income, I can do it too.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75131 Gender:	Re: Is downloading stealing? Reply #16 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 11:49am Is downloading stealing? not if you don't get caught
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Reply #17 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 11:58am

... wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 11:45am:

I think Game of thrones is going on itunes, as a response to some of these complaints.

yes - many months after the release. I am on forums discussing the show with other GoT fans. People don't want to discuss it a year after its aired. Also I'd like to not know whats going to happen - which would mean going on a complete internet blackout for many months.

Its the same problem - people want and demand instant access. It should be easy enough to do. But HBO and most of the industry is stubbornly sticking to an outdated model.

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According to Jeff Cusson, HBO’s senior vice president of corporate affairs, “We think the key to combating piracy is to make content like Game of Thrones available worldwide within the smallest window possible…to 176 territories within the week of the U.S. premiere.”

Cusson said, “HBO is also rolling out HBO Go internationally,” which means many viewers in Europe, Latin America, and in other locations like Hong Kong can watch Game of Thrones at their leisure on their iPad/iPhone, Roku, Xbox 360s, their Android devices, and selected Samsung Smart HDTVs.

Note - NOT available for Australian viewers. Kiss my ass HBO.

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Although this may help prevent international downloading, it does little to address piracy on our home shores. Without subscribing to HBO—a non-standard channel that costs more on top of your pricey cable package—the show is harder to get hold of than a virtuous main character.

Game of Thrones is again out of arm’s reach for people without expensive smart phones (and data plans), as well as HBO Go’s other add-on devices. Although HBO has released Game of Thrones on iTunes and DVD/Blu-Ray, the show doesn’t arrive for months after its initial release. (Although season 2 ended in June 3, 2012, it wasn’t released on DVD/Blu-Ray until February 19, 2013.)

http://www.forbes.com/sites/carolpinchefsky/2013/03/04/how-hbo-is-protecting-game-of-thrones-from-online-piracy-in-2013/

Same old schit. I'll continue to use the services that actually cater for the market. Guilt free.

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Reply #18 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 1:41pm

The previous generation (mine) committed wholesale abuse of copyright laws by using video tape recording machines to record programs off the TV.

The law allowed businesses to sell tape recording machines, and it allowed people to buy these machines ~ but what the law did not allow was the actual use of these machines to record off the airways.

So, hypothetically, a whole generation owned recording machines but never used them for fear of getting caught by the copyright Nazis.

If it wasn't for being able to download pirated content there would be a lot of us terminating our accounts with the ISPs for paying too much of a subscription fee for too little value.

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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: Is downloading stealing? Reply #19 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 1:52pm John Smith wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 11:49am: Is downloading stealing? not if you don't get caught The Eleventh Commandment has held me in good stead for a great number of years.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49400 At my desk.	Re: Is downloading stealing? Reply #20 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 8:00pm Isn't game of thrones like soft porn for women?
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Annie Anthrax Gold Member Offline Take the plan, spin it sideways Posts: 7057 Gender:	Re: Is downloading stealing? Reply #21 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 8:06pm freediver wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 8:00pm: Isn't game of thrones like soft porn for women? Totally. Best series of fantasy novels ever.
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Amadd Gold Member Offline Mo Posts: 6217	Re: Is downloading stealing? Reply #22 - Apr 6^th, 2013 at 6:22pm If you don't download, I reckon you are attempting to cheat the universe, like Nth Korea. Information is free, and so it should be..Namaste.
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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 106640 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Is downloading stealing? Reply #23 - Apr 6^th, 2013 at 6:33pm Amadd wrote on Apr 6^th, 2013 at 6:22pm: If you don't download, I reckon you are attempting to cheat the universe, like Nth Korea. Information is free, and so it should be..Namaste. All your stealing is forgiven and so it is namaste
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It_is_the_Darkness Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4000 in a ReTardis Gender:	Re: Is downloading stealing? Reply #24 - Apr 6^th, 2013 at 9:59pm Is hundreds of illegal Fishing vessels in protected Palau waters 'stealing' ? Hell yes! Who is gonna stop em? The lazy, poor, undermaned coastguard ? If o a female offered you a free root...
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moses Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6353	Re: Is downloading stealing? Reply #25 - Apr 10^th, 2013 at 4:00pm illegal means a sick hawk when it comes to getting a bit of music off the net (I think)
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damien Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 639 Gender:	Re: Is downloading stealing? Reply #26 - Apr 10^th, 2013 at 5:34pm Depends on what you are downloading. And YOU will know if you are stealing or not.
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Reply #27 - Apr 11^th, 2013 at 7:50am

"Copyright theft is not a victimless crime".

That's what my torrent movies scroll at the start of each movie.

It raises my guilt-meter to 4.9 on the Richter Scale ... which unfortunately is not enough to deter me from continuing with this wicked vice.

"Copyright abusers will be stoned to death by villagers hired for this purpose in Afghanistan".

That might catch my attention and make me think twice.

Same with ...

"If found infringing copyright laws your house will be nightly peppered with bullets fired from a moving vehicle driven by youths of Middle Eastern appearance".

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