Iraq, the war and how we got it wrong

    IAN McPHEDRAN - DEFENCE WRITER
    News Limited Network
    March 16, 2013

    Analysis: Ian McPhedran counts the cost of the Iraq War



FORMER prime minister John Howard has admitted that "mistakes" were made by the US-led coalition in Iraq, but he stands by his decision a decade ago to join friend George W Bush in invading the oil-rich nation.    

And his foreign affairs minister at the time, Alexander Downer, has revealed the United Nations Secretary-General, Kofi Annan, virtually blamed former Australian diplomat and chief weapons inspector Richard Butler for the war.

A decade on from the invasion of Iraq by the US-led coalition of the willing and Australian special-forces troops and RAAF fighter jets in March 2003, Mr Howard said he had not changed his mind because Iraq was better off without Saddam Hussein.

"Post invasion, mistakes were made, most particularly the dismantling of the Iraqi Army," Mr Howard said.

He said most people believed that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction and then Labor spokesman Kevin Rudd had even stated that it was "empirical fact".

Mr Howard denied intelligence on the matter was manufactured.

He also said the Iraq experience could have been one of the catalysts for the so-called Arab Spring.

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However, former Defence chief and Iraq war opponent General Peter Gration said the war was "immoral, illegal and unnecessary".    

He said it was also one of the dumbest strategic decisions in Australian history.         

"The civilian casualties and damage have been enormous and it was the first time in history that Australia had taken offensive action against a country that had done nothing to us," General Gration said.

"We need some way to ensure that this never happens again."    

Mr Downer this week said the UN had been writing reports about Iraq's weapons stockpile for years.

He said Mr Annan had said to him that he could not believe that former head of the UN weapons inspection team, Mr Butler, had been made Governor of Tasmania.

"Annan said to me, `If not for Richard Butler there would not have been an Iraq War'," Mr Downer said.

Mr Butler denied the claim.

"The substance of what Annan is alleged to have said is incorrect," he said.

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What has thay got to do with the illegal Iraq war?.    

"Annan said to me, `If not for Richard Butler there would not have been an Iraq War'," Mr Downer said.

Mr Butler denied the claim.


and so the blame game goes on and on and on...

Hitler invaded several countries I dont ever remember him being tried for that!

and now the head of the UN is coming out and adding his blame.. wouldnt it be better if they spent their time and energy in resolving the conflict that is still on going in Iraq... where doesthe UN stand on it...is it civil war now... or attacks from outside?..someone is feeding this was thats for sure..

wouldnt it be a good idea if the UN did something to prevent that??? without weapons who knows what might happen.

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I think its illegal to steal money form a widows fund as well isnt it?

For crying out loud, the thread is about Mr Howard, and the illegal Iraq war.  But dont worry though, with a little bit of extra work, I am sure you will advance to grade 2, next year.   

cods wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 7:49am:



Would you complain if SOB or anyone started posting irrelivant Iraq war information on an AWU thread?

There are 20 Obede or ICAC topics where he could post this crap.

FRED. wrote on Mar 16^th, 2013 at 8:35am:


A quadruple bogey.

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I could have sworn I've seen the exact same article printed several times over the last 10 years or so.  Is this news to anyone?