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gizmo_2655 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16010 South West NSW Gender:	Re: borg F-111 claim Reply #45 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 9:42am Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 9:40am: Haha well the qantas in question was pretty small. SOB And also didn't exist....And the RAAF have NEVER used a Hercules as a VIP aircraft..
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Re: borg F-111 claim
Reply #46 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 10:29am

gizmo_2655 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 9:42am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 9:40am:

Haha well the qantas in question was pretty small.

SOB

And also didn't exist....And the RAAF have NEVER used a Hercules as a VIP aircraft..

Didnt say they did. Said it was qantas. It was @ THE SAME TIME as that herc or f111 was in the news. Why do you trolls have such comprehension problems?

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Reply #47 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 10:39am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 10:29am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 9:42am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 9:40am:

Haha well the qantas in question was pretty small.

SOB

And also didn't exist....And the RAAF have NEVER used a Hercules as a VIP aircraft..

Didnt say they did. Said it was qantas. It was @ THE SAME TIME as that herc or f111 was in the news. Why do you trolls have such comprehension problems?

SOB

its fun watching you squirm and very revealing as you continue to say that you DIDNT say something that we even quoted back to you.

I could call you an idiot but that is unfair to idiots. you are far stupider than that.

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Re: borg F-111 claim
Reply #48 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 10:48am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 10:29am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 9:42am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 9:40am:

Haha well the qantas in question was pretty small.

SOB

And also didn't exist....And the RAAF have NEVER used a Hercules as a VIP aircraft..

Didnt say they did. Said it was qantas. It was @ THE SAME TIME as that herc or f111 was in the news. Why do you trolls have such comprehension problems?

SOB

WHICH Herc or F-11 in the news??

Australia has 12 Hercules aircraft at the moment, and we had 28 or 30 F-111 aircraft..

The reason no one believes you is that there is basically no way that the PM's security staff would put him/her on a commercial flight (with ordinary passengers). You never let your protectee get onto an unsupportable, vulnerable platform with no escape route and no defensible fallback position, surrounded by that many strangers.

IF the RAAF VIP plane had a break down (and one of the 6 or 8 others wasn't available) the Government would simply have chartered a special plane.

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Re: borg F-111 claim
Reply #49 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 10:50am

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 10:39am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 10:29am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 9:42am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 9:40am:

Haha well the qantas in question was pretty small.

SOB

And also didn't exist....And the RAAF have NEVER used a Hercules as a VIP aircraft..

Didnt say they did. Said it was qantas. It was @ THE SAME TIME as that herc or f111 was in the news. Why do you trolls have such comprehension problems?

SOB

its fun watching you squirm and very revealing as you continue to say that you DIDNT say something that we even quoted back to you.

I could call you an idiot but that is unfair to idiots. you are far stupider than that.

Anyone reading the post can see that you are the liar here

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Re: borg F-111 claim
Reply #50 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 10:52am

gizmo_2655 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 10:48am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 10:29am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 9:42am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 9:40am:

Haha well the qantas in question was pretty small.

SOB

And also didn't exist....And the RAAF have NEVER used a Hercules as a VIP aircraft..

Didnt say they did. Said it was qantas. It was @ THE SAME TIME as that herc or f111 was in the news. Why do you trolls have such comprehension problems?

SOB

WHICH Herc or F-11 in the news??

Australia has 12 Hercules aircraft at the moment, and we had 28 or 30 F-111 aircraft..

The reason no one believes you is that there is basically no way that the PM's security staff would put him/her on a commercial flight (with ordinary passengers). You never let your protectee get onto an unsupportable, vulnerable platform with no escape route and no defensible fallback position, surrounded by that many strangers.

IF the RAAF VIP plane had a break down (and one of the 6 or 8 others wasn't available) the Government would simply have chartered a special plane.

BS they can and did. The guys in black were right there on the plane with him. As for the herc of f111 - obviously i dont remember (hence the or) gawd no comprehension skills whatsoever. Seriously this isnt america.

Oh and dont go trying to change the story now after almost a year of longy and the other trolls lying and saying i said howard was on an f11.

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Re: borg F-111 claim
Reply #51 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 11:08am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 10:52am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 10:48am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 10:29am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 9:42am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 9:40am:

Haha well the qantas in question was pretty small.

SOB

And also didn't exist....And the RAAF have NEVER used a Hercules as a VIP aircraft..

Didnt say they did. Said it was qantas. It was @ THE SAME TIME as that herc or f111 was in the news. Why do you trolls have such comprehension problems?

SOB

WHICH Herc or F-11 in the news??

Australia has 12 Hercules aircraft at the moment, and we had 28 or 30 F-111 aircraft..

The reason no one believes you is that there is basically no way that the PM's security staff would put him/her on a commercial flight (with ordinary passengers). You never let your protectee get onto an unsupportable, vulnerable platform with no escape route and no defensible fallback position, surrounded by that many strangers.

IF the RAAF VIP plane had a break down (and one of the 6 or 8 others wasn't available) the Government would simply have chartered a special plane.

BS they can and did. The guys in black were right there on the plane with him. As for the herc of f111 - obviously i dont remember (hence the or) gawd no comprehension skills whatsoever. Seriously this isnt america.

Oh and dont go trying to change the story now after almost a year of longy and the other trolls lying and saying i said howard was on an f11.

SOB

you still said that YOU flew on an F1-11. Now I know you will deny it but I quoted the link to your actual comment.

do you have any idea how foolish you are looking by denying something that is in black and white?

sp... did you or did you not fly in an F1-11

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Reply #52 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 11:26am

no spot, i missed the F111 thread but yesterday you accused quantum of introducing a strawman arguement by saying the dole should be raised to 50,000. when he pointed out to you that is was warrigal that said this , you called quantum a troll and a liar and told him to go away.

its all there to read.

now man up and apologise or live with the label of a liar.

i wont abide people who refuse to admit they were wrong.
do the right thing please

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Reply #53 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 11:28am

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 11:08am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 10:52am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 10:48am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 10:29am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 9:42am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 9:40am:

Haha well the qantas in question was pretty small.

SOB

And also didn't exist....And the RAAF have NEVER used a Hercules as a VIP aircraft..

Didnt say they did. Said it was qantas. It was @ THE SAME TIME as that herc or f111 was in the news. Why do you trolls have such comprehension problems?

SOB

WHICH Herc or F-11 in the news??

Australia has 12 Hercules aircraft at the moment, and we had 28 or 30 F-111 aircraft..

The reason no one believes you is that there is basically no way that the PM's security staff would put him/her on a commercial flight (with ordinary passengers). You never let your protectee get onto an unsupportable, vulnerable platform with no escape route and no defensible fallback position, surrounded by that many strangers.

IF the RAAF VIP plane had a break down (and one of the 6 or 8 others wasn't available) the Government would simply have chartered a special plane.

BS they can and did. The guys in black were right there on the plane with him. As for the herc of f111 - obviously i dont remember (hence the or) gawd no comprehension skills whatsoever. Seriously this isnt america.

Oh and dont go trying to change the story now after almost a year of longy and the other trolls lying and saying i said howard was on an f11.

SOB

you still said that YOU flew on an F1-11. Now I know you will deny it but I quoted the link to your actual comment.

do you have any idea how foolish you are looking by denying something that is in black and white?

sp... did you or did you not fly in an F1-11

It was a completely different discussion - months apart - and nothing to do with this one.

Yes I have been on an F111. Why the heck is that so unbelievable? My wife was in the RAAF and worked on them.

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Reply #54 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 11:29am

aquascoot wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 11:26am:

no spot, i missed the F111 thread but yesterday you accused quantum of introducing a strawman arguement by saying the dole should be raised to 50,000. when he pointed out to you that is was warrigal that said this , you called quantum a troll and a liar and told him to go away.

its all there to read.

now man up and apologise or live with the label of a liar.

i wont abide people who refuse to admit they were wrong.
do the right thing please

No i think you should reread it. I didnt call him a liar and tell him to go away because of warrigal i said it because he was trolling. I also pointed out that he didnt provide a link - common courtesy - which he didnt (not that its any of your business). WTF has it got to do with qantas and howard?

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Reply #55 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 11:35am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 11:28am:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 11:08am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 10:52am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 10:48am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 10:29am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 9:42am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 9:40am:

Haha well the qantas in question was pretty small.

SOB

And also didn't exist....And the RAAF have NEVER used a Hercules as a VIP aircraft..

Didnt say they did. Said it was qantas. It was @ THE SAME TIME as that herc or f111 was in the news. Why do you trolls have such comprehension problems?

SOB

WHICH Herc or F-11 in the news??

Australia has 12 Hercules aircraft at the moment, and we had 28 or 30 F-111 aircraft..

The reason no one believes you is that there is basically no way that the PM's security staff would put him/her on a commercial flight (with ordinary passengers). You never let your protectee get onto an unsupportable, vulnerable platform with no escape route and no defensible fallback position, surrounded by that many strangers.

IF the RAAF VIP plane had a break down (and one of the 6 or 8 others wasn't available) the Government would simply have chartered a special plane.

BS they can and did. The guys in black were right there on the plane with him. As for the herc of f111 - obviously i dont remember (hence the or) gawd no comprehension skills whatsoever. Seriously this isnt america.

Oh and dont go trying to change the story now after almost a year of longy and the other trolls lying and saying i said howard was on an f11.

SOB

you still said that YOU flew on an F1-11. Now I know you will deny it but I quoted the link to your actual comment.

do you have any idea how foolish you are looking by denying something that is in black and white?

sp... did you or did you not fly in an F1-11

It was a completely different discussion - months apart - and nothing to do with this one.

Yes I have been on an F111. Why the heck is that so unbelievable? My wife was in the RAAF and worked on them.

SOB

and they handed out free flights on the F1-11 to spouses of engineers? Or when you mean 'on' an F1-11 do you mean you once stood next to one?

you are a serious dunce.

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Re: borg F-111 claim
Reply #56 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 11:41am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 11:29am:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 11:26am:

no spot, i missed the F111 thread but yesterday you accused quantum of introducing a strawman arguement by saying the dole should be raised to 50,000. when he pointed out to you that is was warrigal that said this , you called quantum a troll and a liar and told him to go away.

its all there to read.

now man up and apologise or live with the label of a liar.

i wont abide people who refuse to admit they were wrong.
do the right thing please

No i think you should reread it. I didnt call him a liar and tell him to go away because of warrigal i said it because he was trolling. I also pointed out that he didnt provide a link - common courtesy - which he didnt (not that its any of your business). WTF has it got to do with qantas and howard?

SOB

what it has got to do with is your lying.

please explain how it is "none of my business' when it was posted on a public forum. if you wish to have a private conversation with someone send them a text. if you post a

LIE

then i will call you for it. stupidity , in my opinion is acceptable.
to lie is not.
no go back and re read it and apologise for your lie.

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Re: borg F-111 claim
Reply #57 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 11:53am

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 8:46am:

Chard wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 8:09am:

Ok, provide a link to the post. Simple enough to prove, really.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1352894422/34#34

Odd, I was told there would be a post of Spot saying he flew in an F-111. All I'm see is more bullshit of other people saying he said it, but still no direct quote of Spot saying it.

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Reply #58 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 2:33pm

Chard wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 11:53am:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 8:46am:

Chard wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 8:09am:

Ok, provide a link to the post. Simple enough to prove, really.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1352894422/34#34

Odd, I was told there would be a post of Spot saying he flew in an F-111. All I'm see is more bullshit of other people saying he said it, but still no direct quote of Spot saying it.

are you blind or a SOB troll? you only have to go back 3 posts to have him REPEAT IT not to say the quotes of other times he has said it.

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Reply #59 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 5:19pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 11:35am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 11:28am:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 11:08am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 10:52am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 10:48am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 10:29am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 9:42am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 9:40am:

Haha well the qantas in question was pretty small.

SOB

And also didn't exist....And the RAAF have NEVER used a Hercules as a VIP aircraft..

Didnt say they did. Said it was qantas. It was @ THE SAME TIME as that herc or f111 was in the news. Why do you trolls have such comprehension problems?

SOB

WHICH Herc or F-11 in the news??

Australia has 12 Hercules aircraft at the moment, and we had 28 or 30 F-111 aircraft..

The reason no one believes you is that there is basically no way that the PM's security staff would put him/her on a commercial flight (with ordinary passengers). You never let your protectee get onto an unsupportable, vulnerable platform with no escape route and no defensible fallback position, surrounded by that many strangers.

IF the RAAF VIP plane had a break down (and one of the 6 or 8 others wasn't available) the Government would simply have chartered a special plane.

BS they can and did. The guys in black were right there on the plane with him. As for the herc of f111 - obviously i dont remember (hence the or) gawd no comprehension skills whatsoever. Seriously this isnt america.

Oh and dont go trying to change the story now after almost a year of longy and the other trolls lying and saying i said howard was on an f11.

SOB

you still said that YOU flew on an F1-11. Now I know you will deny it but I quoted the link to your actual comment.

do you have any idea how foolish you are looking by denying something that is in black and white?

sp... did you or did you not fly in an F1-11

It was a completely different discussion - months apart - and nothing to do with this one.

Yes I have been on an F111. Why the heck is that so unbelievable? My wife was in the RAAF and worked on them.

SOB

and they handed out free flights on the F1-11 to spouses of engineers? Or when you mean 'on' an F1-11 do you mean you once stood next to one?

you are a serious dunce.

I didnt say she was an engineer - what the heck is wrong with you?

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