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Re: Elite Schools Spend $20 Million A Year On Upgrades
Reply #150 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 10:47am

John Smith wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 8:45am:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 8:24am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 8:12am:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 7:09am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 20^th, 2013 at 9:56pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 20^th, 2013 at 3:27pm:

Not at all.
Funding should be the same flat level to all kids - public and private.

No child should not receive public funding for their education.

Then private schools should charge on top of that and state schools just keep to the funding level.

That way parents who choose to fund their child through fees get more - because as you all know and agree - you should always get something for your money.

What on earth would be the point in paying for an education when the state is funding other kids for free if its no better??

the public school funding is there ... for all the kids ... you chose to forgo it for private that is your choice and you should pay.

lets hear you support that principle if govt decided that there shoudl be no child-care subsidy. you want childcare? pay for it yourself! And I'm tipping once your kids reach school age you might find your attitude to private school funding will change too when you haev to choose between the bogan public school and the first-rate private school.

bugger your an idiot ... I do pay for my kids childcare. Any subsidy I may get I get because they give it to me, not because I sought it. That's the way the childcare system is and I play by their rules. .. if they remove the subsidy it won't change a thing for me.

Don't try to judge me by your standards, just because you're a selfish old goat who only cares about themselves it doesn't mean I do as well.

so when you complain (rightly) that andrei is self-absorbed, does it ever occur to you that your entire position on this issue is about how it affects you? You wouldnt know a principle if it bit you and frankly, I doubt very much that you would be happy if the govt removed the childcare subsidy.

but once again, you have utterly failed to address the topic as expressed. you clearly dont understand the fiscal argument to retaining private school subsidies. you actually DONT understand it.

maybe thats because I don't consider it a fiscal argument d1ckwad ...are you incapable of understanding basic english?... if parents want their kids to go they should pay .. that takes the fiscal argument about govt. spending out of the equation. Now if you have a reason as to why govt's should pay for a second layer of education when they already provide for it adequately, use it ... just don't tell me it's about money.

of course its a fiscal argument you moron. no govt in its right mind is going to spend and extra $9B when they dont have to. That would be even too stupid for the ALP never mind anyone else. and to spend EXTRA on a poorer outcome is something even the Greens have trouble with.

on what planet does spending significantly more to get significantly less back make sense??

only in a world like yours where you get your facts from bloggers

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Re: Elite Schools Spend $20 Million A Year On Upgrades
Reply #151 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 10:49am

John Smith wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 8:38am:

Swagman wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 8:35am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 20^th, 2013 at 9:58pm:

Swagman wrote on Mar 20^th, 2013 at 10:20am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 20^th, 2013 at 9:31am:

Why do some of you ppl call the government "socialist" and yet want them to fund private businesses?

SOB

It's the party in Govt that is being branded 'socialist'.

GOVT is NOT funding private business. Funding is a handout.

Think of Private schools as a sub-contractor. They are being paid for delivering a service that the Govt is obliged to provide. Instead of costing them $1 per head it costs Govt 30c per head. The 70c they save can be spent elsewhere on other essential Govt services.

Think of it another way, say the Govt nationalised schools. They would have to find that extra 70c per head and also find additional money to accommodate the extra 30% of student numbers.

Unless they went into massive unsustainable debt other Govt services would be cut. Dole would be less, pensions would be less etc etc etc

Savvy? Huh

Sub contractors are private businesses .... and that analogy doesn't apply anyway ... govt subsidise schools, not pay them .

the rest of your claims are unsubstantiated claims put out by the private schools themselves .. I'm sure it helps them when arguing for extra funding.

Most sub-contractors are private businesses but do you know what a "not for profit organisation" is John Smith?

Do you know why they get income tax exempt status and why their employees get additional income tax breaks?

They lever off the private sector and provide essential Govt services more efficiently and at massive savings to the budget. Shocked

NFPs undertake services that the Govt of the day is obliged to provide. They get funding from various sources but mainly from Govt. It goes down in the books as 'grant' funding from Govt but in actuality the Govt is sub-contracting its own work load to save taxpayer money.

Private schools are NFPs. They provide essential Govt services and whether you call their funding a subsidy, grant, contract receipts, wealthfare it matters not. The result is the SAME.

Aged care, respite care, palliative care, disability welfare, community childcare, employment & training, neighbourhood centres etc are the same. They all get Govt funding to provide Govt services in the same way as private schools.

Private schools are not businesses. As not for profits no one is making an earn from them. They do not have share holders where surpluses are distributed to.

I don't particularly care about their profits or lack thereof, it is still a private business. If it cannot sustain itself, it should not exist.

it exists simply to prove a government service cheaper and better. only you could have a problem with that. no one makes a profit, no one gets a perk but you dont like it because...

who knows?

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Re: Elite Schools Spend $20 Million A Year On Upgrades
Reply #152 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 10:52am

John Smith wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 8:57am:

Swagman wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 8:53am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 8:37am:

Swagman wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 7:33am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 20^th, 2013 at 9:56pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 20^th, 2013 at 3:27pm:

Not at all.
Funding should be the same flat level to all kids - public and private.

No child should not receive public funding for their education.

Then private schools should charge on top of that and state schools just keep to the funding level.

That way parents who choose to fund their child through fees get more - because as you all know and agree - you should always get something for your money.

What on earth would be the point in paying for an education when the state is funding other kids for free if its no better??

the public school funding is there ... for all the kids ... you chose to forgo it for private that is your choice and you should pay.

Even if everyone paid the same amount of tax you still wouldn't have a valid point.

Of course it's valid, simply arguing that ones point isn't valid without an explanation why it is not is in itself not a valid argument ...

if I provide for your kids and you decide to take your kids elsewehre why should I provide more?

Yee-gods but that's the point Exclaim

You are not providing more funding you (as a tax-payer) are providing less. 70% less. Roll Eyes

Govt is chartered to provide education for every Australian child. Every Australian kid is entitled to the same education dollar from the Govt regardless of who their parents are or how the education is delivered.

Where is the proviso that every child must receive the same dollar amount?? It is nice to make these things up to suit your argument. By that argument, if govt's spend $1million per prisoner to keep them in jail, we should all receive $1million? That would be fair wouldn't it? Why should I pay for them and not get any myself?

Govt. must provide education for every child, you must send your child to school, if you chose not to use govt. schooling that is your choice. You want equal dollars, send them to public schools.

that is a daft argument that is so dumb it defies belief. but so much of what you say defies belief. even your signature block screams out you stupidity and gullibility.

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Re: Elite Schools Spend $20 Million A Year On Upgrades
Reply #153 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 4:02pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 10:52am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 8:57am:

Swagman wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 8:53am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 8:37am:

Swagman wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 7:33am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 20^th, 2013 at 9:56pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 20^th, 2013 at 3:27pm:

Not at all.
Funding should be the same flat level to all kids - public and private.

No child should not receive public funding for their education.

Then private schools should charge on top of that and state schools just keep to the funding level.

That way parents who choose to fund their child through fees get more - because as you all know and agree - you should always get something for your money.

What on earth would be the point in paying for an education when the state is funding other kids for free if its no better??

the public school funding is there ... for all the kids ... you chose to forgo it for private that is your choice and you should pay.

Even if everyone paid the same amount of tax you still wouldn't have a valid point.

Of course it's valid, simply arguing that ones point isn't valid without an explanation why it is not is in itself not a valid argument ...

if I provide for your kids and you decide to take your kids elsewehre why should I provide more?

Yee-gods but that's the point Exclaim

You are not providing more funding you (as a tax-payer) are providing less. 70% less. Roll Eyes

Govt is chartered to provide education for every Australian child. Every Australian kid is entitled to the same education dollar from the Govt regardless of who their parents are or how the education is delivered.

Where is the proviso that every child must receive the same dollar amount?? It is nice to make these things up to suit your argument. By that argument, if govt's spend $1million per prisoner to keep them in jail, we should all receive $1million? That would be fair wouldn't it? Why should I pay for them and not get any myself?

Govt. must provide education for every child, you must send your child to school, if you chose not to use govt. schooling that is your choice. You want equal dollars, send them to public schools.

that is a daft argument that is so dumb it defies belief. but so much of what you say defies belief. even your signature block screams out you stupidity and gullibility.

no dafter than your argument, moron. If your argument is sound, it is sound no matter what. If your argument is flawed, the cracks appear.

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Re: Elite Schools Spend $20 Million A Year On Upgrades
Reply #154 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 4:04pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 10:49am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 8:38am:

Swagman wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 8:35am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 20^th, 2013 at 9:58pm:

Swagman wrote on Mar 20^th, 2013 at 10:20am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 20^th, 2013 at 9:31am:

Why do some of you ppl call the government "socialist" and yet want them to fund private businesses?

SOB

It's the party in Govt that is being branded 'socialist'.

GOVT is NOT funding private business. Funding is a handout.

Think of Private schools as a sub-contractor. They are being paid for delivering a service that the Govt is obliged to provide. Instead of costing them $1 per head it costs Govt 30c per head. The 70c they save can be spent elsewhere on other essential Govt services.

Think of it another way, say the Govt nationalised schools. They would have to find that extra 70c per head and also find additional money to accommodate the extra 30% of student numbers.

Unless they went into massive unsustainable debt other Govt services would be cut. Dole would be less, pensions would be less etc etc etc

Savvy? Huh

Sub contractors are private businesses .... and that analogy doesn't apply anyway ... govt subsidise schools, not pay them .

the rest of your claims are unsubstantiated claims put out by the private schools themselves .. I'm sure it helps them when arguing for extra funding.

Most sub-contractors are private businesses but do you know what a "not for profit organisation" is John Smith?

Do you know why they get income tax exempt status and why their employees get additional income tax breaks?

They lever off the private sector and provide essential Govt services more efficiently and at massive savings to the budget. Shocked

NFPs undertake services that the Govt of the day is obliged to provide. They get funding from various sources but mainly from Govt. It goes down in the books as 'grant' funding from Govt but in actuality the Govt is sub-contracting its own work load to save taxpayer money.

Private schools are NFPs. They provide essential Govt services and whether you call their funding a subsidy, grant, contract receipts, wealthfare it matters not. The result is the SAME.

Aged care, respite care, palliative care, disability welfare, community childcare, employment & training, neighbourhood centres etc are the same. They all get Govt funding to provide Govt services in the same way as private schools.

Private schools are not businesses. As not for profits no one is making an earn from them. They do not have share holders where surpluses are distributed to.

I don't particularly care about their profits or lack thereof, it is still a private business. If it cannot sustain itself, it should not exist.

it exists simply to prove a government service cheaper and better. only you could have a problem with that. no one makes a profit, no one gets a perk but you dont like it because...

who knows?

no one gets a perk? Catholic Church has the greatest percentage of private schools... with over $700 B in assets globally. How much of the $700 B is made up of land that was given to them to build their schools on? Of course their are perks .. it justifies it's existence.

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Re: Elite Schools Spend $20 Million A Year On Upgrades
Reply #155 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 4:11pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 10:47am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 8:45am:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 8:24am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 8:12am:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 7:09am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 20^th, 2013 at 9:56pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 20^th, 2013 at 3:27pm:

Not at all.
Funding should be the same flat level to all kids - public and private.

No child should not receive public funding for their education.

Then private schools should charge on top of that and state schools just keep to the funding level.

That way parents who choose to fund their child through fees get more - because as you all know and agree - you should always get something for your money.

What on earth would be the point in paying for an education when the state is funding other kids for free if its no better??

the public school funding is there ... for all the kids ... you chose to forgo it for private that is your choice and you should pay.

lets hear you support that principle if govt decided that there shoudl be no child-care subsidy. you want childcare? pay for it yourself! And I'm tipping once your kids reach school age you might find your attitude to private school funding will change too when you haev to choose between the bogan public school and the first-rate private school.

bugger your an idiot ... I do pay for my kids childcare. Any subsidy I may get I get because they give it to me, not because I sought it. That's the way the childcare system is and I play by their rules. .. if they remove the subsidy it won't change a thing for me.

Don't try to judge me by your standards, just because you're a selfish old goat who only cares about themselves it doesn't mean I do as well.

so when you complain (rightly) that andrei is self-absorbed, does it ever occur to you that your entire position on this issue is about how it affects you? You wouldnt know a principle if it bit you and frankly, I doubt very much that you would be happy if the govt removed the childcare subsidy.

but once again, you have utterly failed to address the topic as expressed. you clearly dont understand the fiscal argument to retaining private school subsidies. you actually DONT understand it.

maybe thats because I don't consider it a fiscal argument d1ckwad ...are you incapable of understanding basic english?... if parents want their kids to go they should pay .. that takes the fiscal argument about govt. spending out of the equation. Now if you have a reason as to why govt's should pay for a second layer of education when they already provide for it adequately, use it ... just don't tell me it's about money.

of course its a fiscal argument you moron. no govt in its right mind is going to spend and extra $9B when they dont have to. That would be even too stupid for the ALP never mind anyone else. and to spend EXTRA on a poorer outcome is something even the Greens have trouble with.

on what planet does spending significantly more to get significantly less back make sense??

only in a world like yours where you get your facts from bloggers

You're an idiot ... private business can provide defense forces cheaper than the govt. too ... shall we privatise the army? or abolish public health altogether ? private can do everything cheaper. I know, lets get rid of the govt. as well, private enterprise can run the country cheaper

it is not about cost ... the govt. has a duty to provide education .. it does ... if you chose not to use it and go elsewhere it should be you that pays.

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Re: Elite Schools Spend $20 Million A Year On Upgrades
Reply #156 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 4:15pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 4:11pm:

it is not about cost ... the govt. has a duty to provide education .. it does ... if you chose not to use it and go elsewhere it should be you that pays.

And we do.
We pay more on top to ensure we have an advantage.

The Government also has a duty to ensure that taxes I pay go towards EVERY Australian child as well.

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Reply #157 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 4:46pm

john smith... it would appear your entire argument amounts to nothing more than 'i hate private enterprise'. there is no logic. no coherent argument - just a belief that private organisations are inherently evil and that you would HAPPILY pay more in taxes than let a private group - even a non-profit - do the work.

the difference between that opinion and that of a communist are not that much. And communists can't balance the budget either so that explains your love of the ALp and so on.

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Re: Elite Schools Spend $20 Million A Year On Upgrades
Reply #158 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 7:21pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 4:15pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 4:11pm:

it is not about cost ... the govt. has a duty to provide education .. it does ... if you chose not to use it and go elsewhere it should be you that pays.

And we do.
We pay more on top to ensure we have an advantage.

The Government also has a duty to ensure that taxes I pay go towards EVERY Australian child as well.

no it does not

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Reply #159 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 7:27pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 4:46pm:

john smith... it would appear your entire argument amounts to nothing more than 'i hate private enterprise'. there is no logic. no coherent argument - just a belief that private organisations are inherently evil and that you would HAPPILY pay more in taxes than let a private group - even a non-profit - do the work.

the difference between that opinion and that of a communist are not that much. And communists can't balance the budget either so that explains your love of the ALp and so on.

HAhaha It's unbelieveable how dumb you get ....

!st .... I love private enterprise .. I just expect it to stand or fail on it's own two feet rather than needing govt. handouts. I myself have my own business ... it is a private enterprise is it not? what a daft pr1ck you are.

2ndly .... Me communist? Cheesy

expecting someone to pay for their own services other than crying out for govt handouts in now considered communist? hahahaha what an idiot . You are the one expecting govt. to pay .. that sounds much more in keeping with communist ideals than anything I have said ...

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Re: Elite Schools Spend $20 Million A Year On Upgrades
Reply #160 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 7:41pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 4:04pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 10:49am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 8:38am:

Swagman wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 8:35am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 20^th, 2013 at 9:58pm:

Swagman wrote on Mar 20^th, 2013 at 10:20am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 20^th, 2013 at 9:31am:

Why do some of you ppl call the government "socialist" and yet want them to fund private businesses?

SOB

It's the party in Govt that is being branded 'socialist'.

GOVT is NOT funding private business. Funding is a handout.

Think of Private schools as a sub-contractor. They are being paid for delivering a service that the Govt is obliged to provide. Instead of costing them $1 per head it costs Govt 30c per head. The 70c they save can be spent elsewhere on other essential Govt services.

Think of it another way, say the Govt nationalised schools. They would have to find that extra 70c per head and also find additional money to accommodate the extra 30% of student numbers.

Unless they went into massive unsustainable debt other Govt services would be cut. Dole would be less, pensions would be less etc etc etc

Savvy? Huh

Sub contractors are private businesses .... and that analogy doesn't apply anyway ... govt subsidise schools, not pay them .

the rest of your claims are unsubstantiated claims put out by the private schools themselves .. I'm sure it helps them when arguing for extra funding.

Most sub-contractors are private businesses but do you know what a "not for profit organisation" is John Smith?

Do you know why they get income tax exempt status and why their employees get additional income tax breaks?

They lever off the private sector and provide essential Govt services more efficiently and at massive savings to the budget. Shocked

NFPs undertake services that the Govt of the day is obliged to provide. They get funding from various sources but mainly from Govt. It goes down in the books as 'grant' funding from Govt but in actuality the Govt is sub-contracting its own work load to save taxpayer money.

Private schools are NFPs. They provide essential Govt services and whether you call their funding a subsidy, grant, contract receipts, wealthfare it matters not. The result is the SAME.

Aged care, respite care, palliative care, disability welfare, community childcare, employment & training, neighbourhood centres etc are the same. They all get Govt funding to provide Govt services in the same way as private schools.

Private schools are not businesses. As not for profits no one is making an earn from them. They do not have share holders where surpluses are distributed to.

I don't particularly care about their profits or lack thereof, it is still a private business. If it cannot sustain itself, it should not exist.

it exists simply to prove a government service cheaper and better. only you could have a problem with that. no one makes a profit, no one gets a perk but you dont like it because...

who knows?

no one gets a perk? Catholic Church has the greatest percentage of private schools... with over $700 B in assets globally. How much of the $700 B is made up of land that was given to them to build their schools on? Of course their are perks .. it justifies it's existence.

a) they werent given land. they bought it just like most people do.
b) the $700B figure is complete crap and a figment of some blogger. The clue is the suspiciously 'round' nature of the number. It wasn't $328.5B it was some completely fabricated, madeup figure. just liek te one in your signature block

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Re: Elite Schools Spend $20 Million A Year On Upgrades
Reply #161 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 7:47pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 7:41pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 4:04pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 10:49am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 8:38am:

Swagman wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 8:35am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 20^th, 2013 at 9:58pm:

Swagman wrote on Mar 20^th, 2013 at 10:20am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 20^th, 2013 at 9:31am:

Why do some of you ppl call the government "socialist" and yet want them to fund private businesses?

SOB

It's the party in Govt that is being branded 'socialist'.

GOVT is NOT funding private business. Funding is a handout.

Think of Private schools as a sub-contractor. They are being paid for delivering a service that the Govt is obliged to provide. Instead of costing them $1 per head it costs Govt 30c per head. The 70c they save can be spent elsewhere on other essential Govt services.

Think of it another way, say the Govt nationalised schools. They would have to find that extra 70c per head and also find additional money to accommodate the extra 30% of student numbers.

Unless they went into massive unsustainable debt other Govt services would be cut. Dole would be less, pensions would be less etc etc etc

Savvy? Huh

Sub contractors are private businesses .... and that analogy doesn't apply anyway ... govt subsidise schools, not pay them .

the rest of your claims are unsubstantiated claims put out by the private schools themselves .. I'm sure it helps them when arguing for extra funding.

Most sub-contractors are private businesses but do you know what a "not for profit organisation" is John Smith?

Do you know why they get income tax exempt status and why their employees get additional income tax breaks?

They lever off the private sector and provide essential Govt services more efficiently and at massive savings to the budget. Shocked

NFPs undertake services that the Govt of the day is obliged to provide. They get funding from various sources but mainly from Govt. It goes down in the books as 'grant' funding from Govt but in actuality the Govt is sub-contracting its own work load to save taxpayer money.

Private schools are NFPs. They provide essential Govt services and whether you call their funding a subsidy, grant, contract receipts, wealthfare it matters not. The result is the SAME.

Aged care, respite care, palliative care, disability welfare, community childcare, employment & training, neighbourhood centres etc are the same. They all get Govt funding to provide Govt services in the same way as private schools.

Private schools are not businesses. As not for profits no one is making an earn from them. They do not have share holders where surpluses are distributed to.

I don't particularly care about their profits or lack thereof, it is still a private business. If it cannot sustain itself, it should not exist.

it exists simply to prove a government service cheaper and better. only you could have a problem with that. no one makes a profit, no one gets a perk but you dont like it because...

who knows?

no one gets a perk? Catholic Church has the greatest percentage of private schools... with over $700 B in assets globally. How much of the $700 B is made up of land that was given to them to build their schools on? Of course their are perks .. it justifies it's existence.

a) they werent given land. they bought it just like most people do.
b) the $700B figure is complete crap and a figment of some blogger. The clue is the suspiciously 'round' nature of the number. It wasn't $328.5B it was some completely fabricated, madeup figure. just liek te one in your signature block

a) the church is often donated land or given concessions by the govt. ... especially if they say they are going to use it to build a school.
b) the $700B figure is what i rounded it down to .. I don't remember the exact figure but I do remember it was in excess of $700B ... by the way, that figure was 2 or 3 yrs ago and I'm sure their total assets have increased since then.

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Re: Elite Schools Spend $20 Million A Year On Upgrades
Reply #162 - Mar 22^nd, 2013 at 4:55am

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 4:46pm:

john smith... it would appear your entire argument amounts to nothing more than 'i hate private enterprise'. there is no logic. no coherent argument - just a belief that private organisations are inherently evil and that you would HAPPILY pay more in taxes than let a private group - even a non-profit - do the work.

the difference between that opinion and that of a communist are not that much. And communists can't balance the budget either so that explains your love of the ALp and so on.

And yet as such an advocate of private enterprise you think it should be funded by the government

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Re: Elite Schools Spend $20 Million A Year On Upgrades
Reply #163 - Mar 22^nd, 2013 at 5:05pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 7:47pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 7:41pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 4:04pm:

[quote author=longweekend58 link=1363488537/151#151 date=1363826962][quote author=John_Smith link=1363488537/141#141 date=1363819137][quote author=Timbo2530 link=1363488537/139#139 date=1363818958][quote author=John_Smith link=1363488537/127#127 date=1363780715][quote author=Timbo2530 link=1363488537/118#118 date=1363738810][quote author=Spot_of_Borg link=1363488537/117#117 date=1363735908]Why do some of you ppl call the government "socialist" and yet want them to fund private businesses?

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a) they werent given land. they bought it just like most people do.
b) the $700B figure is complete crap and a figment of some blogger. The clue is the suspiciously 'round' nature of the number. It wasn't $328.5B it was some completely fabricated, madeup figure. just liek te one in your signature block

a) the church is often donated land or given concessions by the govt. ... especially if they say they are going to use it to build a school.
b) the $700B figure is what i rounded it down to .. I don't remember the exact figure but I do remember it was in excess of $700B ... by the way, that figure was 2 or 3 yrs ago and I'm sure their total assets have increased since then.

so in short you have a problem with the building of schools and your figure of $700B is something you read somewhere rather than from an actual verfied account. Funnily enough it is the same bogus figure that lastnail came up with a few days before you quoted it. So not only are you quoting an unverified bloggers figure but it is of all people, lastnail.

more than just an epic fail....

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Re: Elite Schools Spend $20 Million A Year On Upgrades
Reply #164 - Mar 22^nd, 2013 at 5:06pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2013 at 4:55am:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 4:46pm:

john smith... it would appear your entire argument amounts to nothing more than 'i hate private enterprise'. there is no logic. no coherent argument - just a belief that private organisations are inherently evil and that you would HAPPILY pay more in taxes than let a private group - even a non-profit - do the work.

the difference between that opinion and that of a communist are not that much. And communists can't balance the budget either so that explains your love of the ALp and so on.

And yet as such an advocate of private enterprise you think it should be funded by the government

SOB

why not? private enterprise funds the government! you dont think the govt actually EARNS anything, do you?

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