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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75251 Gender:	Re: Elite Schools Spend $20 Million A Year On Upgrades Reply #45 - Mar 18^th, 2013 at 1:54pm Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 18^th, 2013 at 1:37pm: I should add I am still not happy with what I earn. and you will never be ... if you made $5 million a year you would still want more. .. that is the difference between you and I
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Re: Elite Schools Spend $20 Million A Year On Upgrades
Reply #46 - Mar 18^th, 2013 at 1:55pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 18^th, 2013 at 12:48pm:

You have already said you went to a state school full of wogs but anyway thats not the point.

The system should be very simple -

1) Every child should have the benefit of taxpayer's money to go towards their education.
2) Every school and I mean EVERY school should receive the same funding per pupil.
3) Then if schools wish to charge on top of that for additional quality of either school or quality of teaching etc, trips - then they can do that.

That way, the private school kids receive the better education and advantage - but they have to pay for it.

What on earth is the point of having only some schools receive funding from the Government and others receive nothing?

Completely defeats the object of paying to get a better education.

Make it a level playing field for Government funding.

Every school receives the same as each other.
Public or private.

Please refrain from the childish name calling Johnny, you do it a lot lately and just reflect poorly on you.

It would be better to give equal education rather than equal funding.

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Reply #47 - Mar 18^th, 2013 at 2:00pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 18^th, 2013 at 12:48pm:

You have already said you went to a state school full of wogs but anyway thats not the point.

The system should be very simple -

1) Every child should have the benefit of taxpayer's money to go towards their education.
2) Every school and I mean EVERY school should receive the same funding per pupil.
3) Then if schools wish to charge on top of that for additional quality of either school or quality of teaching etc, trips - then they can do that.

That way, the private school kids receive the better education and advantage - but they have to pay for it.

What on earth is the point of having only some schools receive funding from the Government and others receive nothing?

Completely defeats the object of paying to get a better education.

Make it a level playing field for Government funding.

Every school receives the same as each other.
Public or private.

Please refrain from the childish name calling Johnny, you do it a lot lately and just reflect poorly on you.

What a stupid post. Private schools are exactly that - private. If you want to be a fool and then pay for a private school then go ahead and do that. But don't expect the public purse to cover you.

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Reply #48 - Mar 18^th, 2013 at 2:07pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 18^th, 2013 at 2:00pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 18^th, 2013 at 12:48pm:

You have already said you went to a state school full of wogs but anyway thats not the point.

The system should be very simple -

1) Every child should have the benefit of taxpayer's money to go towards their education.
2) Every school and I mean EVERY school should receive the same funding per pupil.
3) Then if schools wish to charge on top of that for additional quality of either school or quality of teaching etc, trips - then they can do that.

That way, the private school kids receive the better education and advantage - but they have to pay for it.

What on earth is the point of having only some schools receive funding from the Government and others receive nothing?

Completely defeats the object of paying to get a better education.

Make it a level playing field for Government funding.

Every school receives the same as each other.
Public or private.

Please refrain from the childish name calling Johnny, you do it a lot lately and just reflect poorly on you.

What a stupid post. Private schools are exactly that - private. If you want to be a fool and then pay for a private school then go ahead and do that. But don't expect the public purse to cover you.

Market capitalism is fundamental.
You pay for something, you get a service in return.

Now you would have an absurd system where I pay a lot in tax but then see neither of my children receive any of that money to their education??

The funding goes to give someone else's kid a free one at my expense?

Thats the absurd system you prefer.

NO.

Funding to all.
Then you pay for a private education above the base level standard.

Answer this - why would you pay to give your child an education if they are not going to receive better quality and more than public kids?

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Reply #49 - Mar 18^th, 2013 at 2:09pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 18^th, 2013 at 2:07pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 18^th, 2013 at 2:00pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 18^th, 2013 at 12:48pm:

You have already said you went to a state school full of wogs but anyway thats not the point.

The system should be very simple -

1) Every child should have the benefit of taxpayer's money to go towards their education.
2) Every school and I mean EVERY school should receive the same funding per pupil.
3) Then if schools wish to charge on top of that for additional quality of either school or quality of teaching etc, trips - then they can do that.

That way, the private school kids receive the better education and advantage - but they have to pay for it.

What on earth is the point of having only some schools receive funding from the Government and others receive nothing?

Completely defeats the object of paying to get a better education.

Make it a level playing field for Government funding.

Every school receives the same as each other.
Public or private.

Please refrain from the childish name calling Johnny, you do it a lot lately and just reflect poorly on you.

What a stupid post. Private schools are exactly that - private. If you want to be a fool and then pay for a private school then go ahead and do that. But don't expect the public purse to cover you.

Market capitalism is fundamental.
You pay for something, you get a service in return.

Now you would have an absurd system where I pay a lot in tax but then see neither of my children receive any of that money to their education??

The funding goes to give someone else's kid a free one at my expense?

Thats the absurd system you prefer.

NO.

Funding to all.
Then you pay for a private education above the base level standard.

Answer this - why would you pay to give your child an education if they are not going to receive better quality and more than public kids?

Thats the system that we live in - just like your tax goes towards welfare and yet you should no tbe entitled to welfare. Same thing. It works. It strengthens the economy to do it. And paying tax doesn't mean you get something in return.

PRivate Schools should receive $0. By definition they should not be entitled to any government funding.

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Elite Schools Spend $20 Million A Year On Upgrades Reply #50 - Mar 18^th, 2013 at 2:11pm so why would you have someone's taxes going to pay for somebody else's kid to be educated but see none of that money going to your own children? And that's not how it works by the way - for very good reason.
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Reply #51 - Mar 18^th, 2013 at 2:13pm

Care to explain then why both major parties will not be going to your system and come election time pretty much fall over themselves offering policies aimed at the swinging vote of middle Australia from tax money?

If you don't get anything back - or aren't supposed to - then the two major parties do a bloody good job of portraying the opposite!

You know your plan of not funding private schools will never get up don't you?
You are that much of a realist I take it.

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Dsmithy70 Gold Member Offline ire futuis vobismetipsis Posts: 13147 Newy Gender:	Re: Elite Schools Spend $20 Million A Year On Upgrades Reply #52 - Mar 18^th, 2013 at 2:14pm Good old Andrei If his not getting a benefit, his whining about paying tax. Buggered if I know where he thinks Government get money from.
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Reply #53 - Mar 18^th, 2013 at 2:14pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 18^th, 2013 at 2:11pm:

so why would you have someone's taxes going to pay for somebody else's kid to be educated but see none of that money going to your own children?

And that's not how it works by the way - for very good reason.

Why would someone's taxes go to pay for somebody elses child with regard to family allowance? Why would you have someone's taxes go to pay for someones health service? Why am I paying for someone to have a baby bonus? Why am I paying for pensioners? etc. etc. etc.

It's very simple: by ensuring that as a society we do look after those that need it what actually ends up happening is an increased and better economy. I'm surprised an accountant like yourself is so dumb you fail to realise this point Grin

What a waste of money you are Grin

And it works the way it works at the moment because Howard is a wank.

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Reply #54 - Mar 18^th, 2013 at 2:15pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 18^th, 2013 at 2:14pm:

Good old Andrei

If his not getting a benefit, his whining about paying tax.

Buggered if I know where he thinks Government get money from. Cheesy

If you pay x amount in tax - are you not entitled to expect something back?

Goes to the fundamentals of the system and may explain the stance of both parties to middle Australia.

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Reply #55 - Mar 18^th, 2013 at 2:16pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 18^th, 2013 at 2:14pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 18^th, 2013 at 2:11pm:

so why would you have someone's taxes going to pay for somebody else's kid to be educated but see none of that money going to your own children?

And that's not how it works by the way - for very good reason.

Why would someone's taxes go to pay for somebody elses child with regard to family allowance? Why would you have someone's taxes go to pay for someones health service? Why am I paying for someone to have a baby bonus? Why am I paying for pensioners? etc. etc. etc.

It's very simple: by ensuring that as a society we do look after those that need it what actually ends up happening is an increased and better economy. I'm surprised an accountant like yourself is so dumb you fail to realise this point Grin

What a waste of money you are Grin

And it works the way it works at the moment because Howard is a wank.

Care to tell me why Labor have not, and do not intend, to change it then?

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Reply #56 - Mar 18^th, 2013 at 2:17pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 18^th, 2013 at 2:16pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 18^th, 2013 at 2:14pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 18^th, 2013 at 2:11pm:

so why would you have someone's taxes going to pay for somebody else's kid to be educated but see none of that money going to your own children?

And that's not how it works by the way - for very good reason.

Why would someone's taxes go to pay for somebody elses child with regard to family allowance? Why would you have someone's taxes go to pay for someones health service? Why am I paying for someone to have a baby bonus? Why am I paying for pensioners? etc. etc. etc.

It's very simple: by ensuring that as a society we do look after those that need it what actually ends up happening is an increased and better economy. I'm surprised an accountant like yourself is so dumb you fail to realise this point Grin

What a waste of money you are Grin

And it works the way it works at the moment because Howard is a wank.

Care to tell me why Labor have not, and do not intend, to change it then?

Simple. Unfortunately Howard created too many "battlers" like you who feel a need for every cent. He bugger* up this coutnry like noone else and did a brilliant job at creating a mediocre needy society.

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Reply #57 - Mar 18^th, 2013 at 2:18pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 18^th, 2013 at 2:15pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 18^th, 2013 at 2:14pm:

Good old Andrei

If his not getting a benefit, his whining about paying tax.

Buggered if I know where he thinks Government get money from. Cheesy

If you pay x amount in tax - are you not entitled to expect something back?

Goes to the fundamentals of the system and may explain the stance of both parties to middle Australia.

You do - in the form of economic growth that helps you keep your job. Move on.

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Reply #58 - Mar 18^th, 2013 at 2:19pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 18^th, 2013 at 2:07pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 18^th, 2013 at 2:00pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 18^th, 2013 at 12:48pm:

You have already said you went to a state school full of wogs but anyway thats not the point.

The system should be very simple -

1) Every child should have the benefit of taxpayer's money to go towards their education.
2) Every school and I mean EVERY school should receive the same funding per pupil.
3) Then if schools wish to charge on top of that for additional quality of either school or quality of teaching etc, trips - then they can do that.

That way, the private school kids receive the better education and advantage - but they have to pay for it.

What on earth is the point of having only some schools receive funding from the Government and others receive nothing?

Completely defeats the object of paying to get a better education.

Make it a level playing field for Government funding.

Every school receives the same as each other.
Public or private.

Please refrain from the childish name calling Johnny, you do it a lot lately and just reflect poorly on you.

What a stupid post. Private schools are exactly that - private. If you want to be a fool and then pay for a private school then go ahead and do that. But don't expect the public purse to cover you.

Market capitalism is fundamental.
You pay for something, you get a service in return.

Now you would have an absurd system where I pay a lot in tax but then see neither of my children receive any of that money to their education??

The funding goes to give someone else's kid a free one at my expense?

Thats the absurd system you prefer.

NO.

Funding to all.
Then you pay for a private education above the base level standard.

Answer this - why would you pay to give your child an education if they are not going to receive better quality and more than public kids?

If you want to educate your children on public money then send them to public school. Simple.

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Dsmithy70 Gold Member Offline ire futuis vobismetipsis Posts: 13147 Newy Gender:	Re: Elite Schools Spend $20 Million A Year On Upgrades Reply #59 - Mar 18^th, 2013 at 2:19pm Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 18^th, 2013 at 2:15pm: If you pay x amount in tax - are you not entitled to expect something back? No you are not. Simple end of story Taxation is not some sort of forced saving nor is it a service industry.
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