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Reply #105 - Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:30pm
 
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Slap Slap indeed maqqa you Muppet.

Going to stop embarrassing yourself now?
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Reply #106 - Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:30pm
 
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Reply #107 - Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:31pm
 
No wonder the family is being destroyed and men are so angry. Look at these laws FFS.

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Reply #108 - Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:33pm
 
What sections should be changed, and why, in your opinion?
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Reply #109 - Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:34pm
 
Infarction wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:33pm:
What sections should be changed, and why, in your opinion?

The whole thing needs ripping up and starting again from a non-sexist view point.
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Reply #110 - Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:36pm
 
Which parts of the act are sexist exactly?

What makes them that way?
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Reply #111 - Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:40pm
 
Infarction wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:36pm:
Which parts of the act are sexist exactly?

What makes them that way?

When I say the whole thing, I dont mean I will pick it apart for you.
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Reply #112 - Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:44pm
 
Why is it sexist then?
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Reply #113 - Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:46pm
 
Infarction wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:44pm:
Why is it sexist then?

You had your chance to answer my question, you refused.
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Reply #114 - Mar 21st, 2013 at 2:01pm
 
Senator Brett Mason: Quote:
Overall, the fundamental problem with this bill lies in the unintended, the unfair and potentially even the perverse consequences that will arise from the bill's application and from its interpretation. These consequences, to the mind of the coalition, threaten to undo any good otherwise achieved by the bill. Let me touch on a few of the failings of this bill as they are reflected in the opposition's amendments, to be moved later this evening in committee.

Firstly, the absurdly broadened definition of family violence diminishes and trivialises the very serious issue of violence which a small minority of men and some women perpetrate. The coalition is not opposed to a sensible broadening of the legislative definition of family violence, but the proposed new definition embraces such a breadth of behaviour as to make the concept of violence as commonly understood in the community almost meaningless. Combined with the removal of any objective criteria, thereby imposing an entirely subjective test of what constitutes family violence, this amendment can only lead to much heartache and much litigation.

Secondly, the repeal of the so-called 'friendly parent' provision makes little sense. That is, the removal of the current positive obligation upon separating parents to facilitate a child's relationship with the other parent, to have a positive duty to support that ongoing relationship. It is claimed this current provision inhibits women from disclosing violence, but where is the evidence of this other than the purely anecdotal? It is a very serious claim that the government has not really substantiated to underpin this bill.

Thirdly, by repealing section 117AB, the bill also deletes the only penalty that applies to those who make—I want to emphasise this—deliberately false allegations of child abuse or family violence in proceedings. After the amended bill takes effect, what will be the sanction for someone who deliberately makes false allegations of child abuse? There will be none. Making an allegation that turns out to be unsubstantiated is one thing, as Senator Humphries knows. This is not simply an allegation that cannot be proven but one that is known to be false at the time it is made. What is the sanction?
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Reply #115 - Mar 21st, 2013 at 2:02pm
 
So once again you are banging on about poo you clearly don't actually know any thing about.

Again, i'm shocked, shocked i tells ya.
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Reply #116 - Mar 21st, 2013 at 2:03pm
 
Infarction wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 2:02pm:
So once again you are banging on about poo you clearly don't actually know any thing about.

Again, i'm shocked, shocked i tells ya.



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