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Re: The apology didn't go well for Abbott
Reply #60 - Mar 21st, 2013 at 10:13pm
 
Quantum wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 8:15pm:
Last summer it was all "evil corporate white man take Aboriginal land! Evil!"

All winter we had prevailing screaming; "evil Labor, Abbott will save us! Support those who save us from corruption".

This summer it's all; "atheists, atheists, atheists everywhere! They're in the government, they're in the church, they're on the forum, they're even up your arse. Watch out for the atheist!"

I know I am going to regret asking this... But what the bugger is wrong with you? How can anyone spend so much time each day posting nonstop shlt?

yes but you are a lunatic aren't you.. Cool
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Re: The apology didn't go well for Abbott
Reply #61 - Mar 21st, 2013 at 10:14pm
 
John Smith wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 7:44pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 3:11pm:
be greatful I am not a moderator because you would be gone from here forever. you are not just insane but now clearly moved on to being a blasphemer.



I read this and just cracked up laughing


longlooser, can you please show me on the forum rules were blasphemy is not allowed?




bump for longlooser ... please show me the rule?

(hehehe, it still makes me laugh)
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Reply #62 - Mar 21st, 2013 at 11:02pm
 
be afraid for your children in state atheist childcare institutions...be very afraid... Cool
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Re: The apology didn't go well for Abbott
Reply #63 - Mar 22nd, 2013 at 1:50am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 4:02pm:
hadrian_now wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 11:01am:
This whole apology business has got beyond a joke. Who will we be apologising to next . . .the Chinese who were insulted during the gold rush?

This apology does not take into account the feelings of the thousands of adoptive parents who thought they were doing the right thing by kids they adopted. Now they are being almost criminalised.


The do-gooders also forget that alot (not all, but a high percentage) of these forced adoptions were done to remove children from abusive households where either the children themselves and/or their mother was verbally/physically abused. In a lot of cases, it was for the good of the children.


What evidence do you have to support your claim that babies were removed from abusive families? Do you have any at all?

Many of the adoptions were based on the "clean break" theory, the baby was taken away at birth and the mother sedated so she could not resist.

Read some of the testimonials available at forced adoptions.web.au. They would break your heart if you had one.
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Re: The apology didn't go well for Abbott
Reply #64 - Mar 22nd, 2013 at 4:19am
 
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 11:03am:
hadrian_now wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 11:01am:
This whole apology business has got beyond a joke. Who will we be apologising to next . . .the Chinese who were insulted during the gold rush?

This apology does not take into account the feelings of the thousands of adoptive parents who thought they were doing the right thing by kids they adopted. Now they are being almost criminalised.



Yes, the apology thing is out of control. It's a disease and a cancer.
Strong cultures do not apologise. It's the sign of a decaying and declining culture.


Wow. While i think the apologies are silly and dont do anything they do serve a purpose for the governments. They save money. By apologising it absolves them of doing anything financially to help the ppl that are being apologised to. I would think you of all ppl would approve of that.

Meanwhile a true heartfelt apology when someone has been wronged is not a "sign of weakness".

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Re: The apology didn't go well for Abbott
Reply #65 - Mar 22nd, 2013 at 4:20am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 11:11am:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 11:03am:
hadrian_now wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 11:01am:
This whole apology business has got beyond a joke. Who will we be apologising to next . . .the Chinese who were insulted during the gold rush?

This apology does not take into account the feelings of the thousands of adoptive parents who thought they were doing the right thing by kids they adopted. Now they are being almost criminalised.



Yes, the apology thing is out of control. It's a disease and a cancer.
Strong cultures do not apologise. It's the sign of a decaying and declining culture.


if pollies are always having to apologise for something that inadvertently say which offends someone then we will end up with pollies who when they speak, say nothing of consequence, funny, but thats pretty much EXACTLY what we have now. they say nothing of value because to attempt to comunicate value risks offending someone.

its pathetic.


Why just pollies? Everyone should apologise when they do something wrong or by accident. Its common decency.

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Re: The apology didn't go well for Abbott
Reply #66 - Mar 22nd, 2013 at 6:09am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 22nd, 2013 at 4:19am:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 11:03am:
hadrian_now wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 11:01am:
This whole apology business has got beyond a joke. Who will we be apologising to next . . .the Chinese who were insulted during the gold rush?

This apology does not take into account the feelings of the thousands of adoptive parents who thought they were doing the right thing by kids they adopted. Now they are being almost criminalised.



Yes, the apology thing is out of control. It's a disease and a cancer.
Strong cultures do not apologise. It's the sign of a decaying and declining culture.


Wow. While i think the apologies are silly and dont do anything they do serve a purpose for the governments. They save money. By apologising it absolves them of doing anything financially to help the ppl that are being apologised to. I would think you of all ppl would approve of that.

Meanwhile a true heartfelt apology when someone has been wronged is not a "sign of weakness".

SOB


The government also pledged over $10 million to assist victims of these cruel policies.

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Reply #67 - Mar 22nd, 2013 at 6:33am
 
Abbott couldn't even get the apology right...what a dipstick

It does show that with Abbotts and Bishops history and with them as this countries leaders we will enter a new era of the bashing of victims.
Abbott hates women and Bishop hates workers...what a pair  Grin
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Re: The apology didn't go well for Abbott
Reply #68 - Mar 22nd, 2013 at 7:56am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 22nd, 2013 at 4:19am:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 11:03am:
hadrian_now wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 11:01am:
This whole apology business has got beyond a joke. Who will we be apologising to next . . .the Chinese who were insulted during the gold rush?

This apology does not take into account the feelings of the thousands of adoptive parents who thought they were doing the right thing by kids they adopted. Now they are being almost criminalised.



Yes, the apology thing is out of control. It's a disease and a cancer.
Strong cultures do not apologise. It's the sign of a decaying and declining culture.


Wow. While i think the apologies are silly and dont do anything they do serve a purpose for the governments. They save money. By apologising it absolves them of doing anything financially to help the ppl that are being apologised to. I would think you of all ppl would approve of that.

Meanwhile a true heartfelt apology when someone has been wronged is not a "sign of weakness".

SOB



Well, after apologising to the Aboriginals, the government still pumps millions of dollars into the 'industry'.

I've never heard of an apology absolving responsibility - perhaps you could give some examples?
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Re: The apology didn't go well for Abbott
Reply #69 - Mar 22nd, 2013 at 7:59am
 
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Mar 22nd, 2013 at 7:56am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 22nd, 2013 at 4:19am:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 11:03am:
hadrian_now wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 11:01am:
This whole apology business has got beyond a joke. Who will we be apologising to next . . .the Chinese who were insulted during the gold rush?

This apology does not take into account the feelings of the thousands of adoptive parents who thought they were doing the right thing by kids they adopted. Now they are being almost criminalised.



Yes, the apology thing is out of control. It's a disease and a cancer.
Strong cultures do not apologise. It's the sign of a decaying and declining culture.


Wow. While i think the apologies are silly and dont do anything they do serve a purpose for the governments. They save money. By apologising it absolves them of doing anything financially to help the ppl that are being apologised to. I would think you of all ppl would approve of that.

Meanwhile a true heartfelt apology when someone has been wronged is not a "sign of weakness".

SOB



Well, after apologising to the Aboriginals, the government still pumps millions of dollars into the 'industry'.

I've never heard of an apology absolving responsibility - perhaps you could give some examples?


And yet Abbott now supports the apology. Although I suspect he would also add. "Just be happy we didn't kill the lot of you" in his speech
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Reply #70 - Mar 22nd, 2013 at 8:40am
 
Political  Atheists like Tony Abbott must change...meally mouthed appologies are not enough, they must renounce fully their abuses and recognize that none of us are their possessions or properties and that they as leaders must be our servants and not our masters...They must cease abusing children, abusing mothers and abusing the natural bond between mother abnd child.  The State atheists must renounce child abduction, they must desist from all policies that discriminate against the poor with suitable employment and training oportunities and they must renounce the atheistic bigotry of Darwin, Marx, Mao, Hitler, Lenin and Pol Pot.  Australian people are not their consumers and the mothers are not the receopticals of their economic property.  Its time to put Jesus CFhrist front and centre in the Government and respect and care for the poor as God says they are fully entitled to be cared for with decent work and socia security.  No longer can we tolerate the waste and the injustices and the wars of State Atheism... Cool
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Re: The apology didn't go well for Abbott
Reply #71 - Mar 22nd, 2013 at 10:58am
 
hadrian_now wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 11:01am:
This whole apology business has got beyond a joke. Who will we be apologising to next . . .the Chinese who were insulted during the gold rush?

This apology does not take into account the feelings of the thousands of adoptive parents who thought they were doing the right thing by kids they adopted. Now they are being almost criminalised.


Most adoptees did well maybe, because they were so treasured by childless couples.

No doubt prospective adopters were well-screened - no doubt paedophilia was always around.

However, I realise the pain of a mother who had signed away her baby. There should have been some provision for mother and offspring to meet after offspring reached maturity.
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Re: The apology didn't go well for Abbott
Reply #72 - Mar 22nd, 2013 at 5:01pm
 
corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 22nd, 2013 at 8:40am:
Political  Atheists like Tony Abbott must change...meally mouthed appologies are not enough, they must renounce fully their abuses and recognize that none of us are their possessions or properties and that they as leaders must be our servants and not our masters...They must cease abusing children, abusing mothers and abusing the natural bond between mother abnd child.  The State atheists must renounce child abduction, they must desist from all policies that discriminate against the poor with suitable employment and training oportunities and they must renounce the atheistic bigotry of Darwin, Marx, Mao, Hitler, Lenin and Pol Pot.  Australian people are not their consumers and the mothers are not the receopticals of their economic property.  Its time to put Jesus CFhrist front and centre in the Government and respect and care for the poor as God says they are fully entitled to be cared for with decent work and socia security.  No longer can we tolerate the waste and the injustices and the wars of State Atheism... Cool




I applaud your sincerity and concern for others

However, whilst I believe Christianity in particular produces a more ethical society, it's also responsible for many ills.  Six of one, half a dozen of the other, therefore

For example, in the early 70s, one of our junior employees related the tale of her older sister. The older sister fell pregnant to her long-term boyfriend.  The girls' mother, a devout Roman Catholic, reported the boy, who was imprisoned for 'carnel knowledge'

His girlfriend gave birth to their child under .. obviously .. the most traumatic of circumstances, exacerbated by her Roman Catholic mother who laid a heavy guilt trip on the girl and then forced the girl to sign over the child for adoption

The boy emerged from prison.  Married his girlfriend once they were of age.  They had four further children.  And spent years trying to find their first child which had been adopted

Lost track of our young employee, so don't know if that young couple was ever able to find their stolen child or even to reunite with it

No apology, from any of the 'adults' involved, could diminish one hundredth of one percent of their enduring suffering.  Nor could any belated apology, four plus decades later, from any mealy mouthed politician
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Reply #73 - Mar 22nd, 2013 at 6:29pm
 
olde.sault wrote on Mar 22nd, 2013 at 10:58am:
hadrian_now wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 11:01am:
This whole apology business has got beyond a joke. Who will we be apologising to next . . .the Chinese who were insulted during the gold rush?

This apology does not take into account the feelings of the thousands of adoptive parents who thought they were doing the right thing by kids they adopted. Now they are being almost criminalised.


Most adoptees did well maybe, because they were so treasured by childless couples.

No doubt prospective adopters were well-screened - no doubt paedophilia was always around.

However, I realise the pain of a mother who had signed away her baby. There should have been some provision for mother and offspring to meet after offspring reached maturity.



Interesting point

How many of the stolen generation did well compared to the rest of the Aboriginal community?
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Reply #74 - Mar 24th, 2013 at 11:18am
 
In this adoption debacle the players are:

(1) The mother biological mothers
(2) The adoptive mothers

(3) The biological fathers
(4) The adoptive fathers

(5) The children

The ranking does not reduce their importance

After reading through Gillard's speech and Abbott's speech - I note one glaring difference

Abbott's speech acknowledge the adoptive mothers and fathers. They are as much a victim in this as the birth/biological mothers

The adoptive parents (most of them) are loving parents who extended their home, family and financial resources to these children. Yet not one word of acknowledgement from our PM

Abbott's wordings were badly done but his intention is inclusive.
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