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Re: Crean puts up hand
Reply #60 - Mar 21st, 2013 at 2:00pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:54pm:
FriYAY wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:52pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:50pm:
Crean has been sacked by Gillard.

The woman really knows how to make enemies!!!


WOW, i suppose she had to?


all he has done is supported Rudd. thats not a really the way a true leader operates. it is however how a dictator operates.




Wow.

First the hitler comparison.

And now the dictator one.





Tad hyperbolic dont you think?
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Reply #61 - Mar 21st, 2013 at 2:02pm
 
Aussie dollar on the downward - they should spill the leadership every day for the next couple of months.
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Reply #62 - Mar 21st, 2013 at 2:03pm
 
I haven't heard anything from Crean about him supporting Rudd. What are you talking about?
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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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Reply #63 - Mar 21st, 2013 at 2:04pm
 
Forgot that the Deputy P.M. position will be declared vacant too...If Gillard and Swan go together, that will be all too much good news in one day.

I don't think I could cope with all that good news in one go.

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Reply #64 - Mar 21st, 2013 at 2:05pm
 
darkhall67 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 2:00pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:54pm:
FriYAY wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:52pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:50pm:
Crean has been sacked by Gillard.

The woman really knows how to make enemies!!!


WOW, i suppose she had to?


all he has done is supported Rudd. thats not a really the way a true leader operates. it is however how a dictator operates.




Wow.

First the hitler comparison.

And now the dictator one.





Tad hyperbolic dont you think
?


only if it is wrong. Gillard seems quite happy to take labor to an anihilation as long as she gets to stay as leader. That is very hitlereaque...  An dictators do have a habit of executing messengers with bad news or those who question their decisions. So I will stay with 'dictator' being VERY appropriate as well
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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
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Reply #65 - Mar 21st, 2013 at 2:05pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 2:03pm:
I haven't heard anything from Crean about him supporting Rudd. What are you talking about?


Its on very newspaper
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Reply #66 - Mar 21st, 2013 at 2:06pm
 
red baron wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 2:04pm:
Forgot that the Deputy P.M. position will be declared vacant too...If Gillard and Swan go together, that will be all too much good news in one day.

I don't think I could cope with all that good news in one go.



if Rudd wins, both of them will be on the backbench, Crean could end up as treasurer - a job he has been in before.
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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
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Reply #67 - Mar 21st, 2013 at 2:07pm
 
do you have any quotes alevine?

from ABC:

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Ms Gillard moved after party elder Simon Crean called for the leadership to be thrown open, and demanded Kevin Rudd stand against Ms Gillard.

"I don't want any more games, I'm sick to death of it, it's about time he stood up and instead of having his camp leak things, actually have the courage of his conviction and his belief," Mr Crean said.


doesn't sound like support to me.
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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Reply #68 - Mar 21st, 2013 at 2:09pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 2:05pm:
darkhall67 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 2:00pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:54pm:
FriYAY wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:52pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:50pm:
Crean has been sacked by Gillard.

The woman really knows how to make enemies!!!


WOW, i suppose she had to?


all he has done is supported Rudd. thats not a really the way a true leader operates. it is however how a dictator operates.




Wow.

First the hitler comparison.

And now the dictator one.





Tad hyperbolic dont you think
?


only if it is wrong. Gillard seems quite happy to take labor to an anihilation as long as she gets to stay as leader. That is very hitlereaque...  An dictators do have a habit of executing messengers with bad news or those who question their decisions. So I will stay with 'dictator' being VERY appropriate as well




Dictators calling for a vote on whether they stay or not?


I dont think that word means what you think it means.
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Reply #69 - Mar 21st, 2013 at 2:20pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:54pm:
FriYAY wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:52pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:50pm:
Crean has been sacked by Gillard.

The woman really knows how to make enemies!!!


WOW, i suppose she had to?


all he has done is supported Rudd. thats not a really the way a true leader operates. it is however how a dictator operates.



Well no.

He came put a said he no longer supports Gillard and the ALP needs to change the way it is run. That they had lost the support of the voters. That Rudd had to stand up now or never. It’s all a bit more complex than just saying he supports Rudd.
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Reply #70 - Mar 21st, 2013 at 2:21pm
 
darkhall67 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 2:09pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 2:05pm:
darkhall67 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 2:00pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:54pm:
FriYAY wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:52pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:50pm:
Crean has been sacked by Gillard.

The woman really knows how to make enemies!!!


WOW, i suppose she had to?


all he has done is supported Rudd. thats not a really the way a true leader operates. it is however how a dictator operates.




Wow.

First the hitler comparison.

And now the dictator one.





Tad hyperbolic dont you think
?


only if it is wrong. Gillard seems quite happy to take labor to an anihilation as long as she gets to stay as leader. That is very hitlereaque...  An dictators do have a habit of executing messengers with bad news or those who question their decisions. So I will stay with 'dictator' being VERY appropriate as well




Dictators calling for a vote on whether they stay or not?


I dont think that word means what you think it means.


And Gillard isnt german either. I figured you to be smart enough to get the point without being quite as silly about it as you have been.
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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
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Reply #71 - Mar 21st, 2013 at 2:23pm
 
FriYAY wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 2:20pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:54pm:
FriYAY wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:52pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:50pm:
Crean has been sacked by Gillard.

The woman really knows how to make enemies!!!


WOW, i suppose she had to?


all he has done is supported Rudd. thats not a really the way a true leader operates. it is however how a dictator operates.



Well no.

He came put a said he no longer supports Gillard and the ALP needs to change the way it is run. That they had lost the support of the voters. That Rudd had to stand up now or never. It’s all a bit more complex than just saying he supports Rudd.


but he very clearly does not support Gillard which is pretty much what is up for grabs.
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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
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Reply #72 - Mar 21st, 2013 at 2:25pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 2:23pm:
FriYAY wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 2:20pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:54pm:
FriYAY wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:52pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:50pm:
Crean has been sacked by Gillard.

The woman really knows how to make enemies!!!


WOW, i suppose she had to?


all he has done is supported Rudd. thats not a really the way a true leader operates. it is however how a dictator operates.



Well no.

He came put a said he no longer supports Gillard and the ALP needs to change the way it is run. That they had lost the support of the voters. That Rudd had to stand up now or never. It’s all a bit more complex than just saying he supports Rudd.


but he very clearly does not support Gillard which is pretty much what is up for grabs.



Yep, definitely doesn’t support Gillard.
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Reply #73 - Mar 21st, 2013 at 2:37pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:50pm:
Crean has been sacked by Gillard.

The woman really knows how to make enemies!!!



Crean has more experience and integrity, and is undoubledly more
honest than just about anyone else in the Labor party.

And certainly more so than anyone in the Con-alition.

For this woman to sack him is stupidity personified.
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Reply #74 - Mar 21st, 2013 at 3:58pm
 
progressiveslol wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 12:14pm:
Actually I am not confident now. Good, I want to kick gillards arse at an election.

Crean looks like a man standing alone, hoping in hell others will follow his lead.

Crean will be gone soon.

Poor ol crean. He was the only one that made sense, but to put yourself on the line like that, he must have really had low hopes for labor under gillard.
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