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Re: IT'S the wall-punching episode
Reply #30 - Mar 21st, 2013 at 10:06pm
 
progressiveslol wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 10:03pm:
John Smith wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 9:52pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 9:36pm:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 9:19pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 8:31pm:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 8:23pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 8:07pm:
John Smith wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 7:32pm:
Mentality of a liberal monkey

Abbott is accused of punching a wall  .. with three independent witnesses ... libs response, it's all lies, you cannot prove it, he wasn't charges


Gillard is accused of stealing union funds .... we are told by someone who knew someone who had a dog that heard someone say something ... no real proof despite months of waiting for Pickering or Smith to provide some ... libs response .. guilty, no need for a  trial, hang her, jail her ...



Difference. Court threw it out. No crime was committed. Get it. They had their activist go and the courts said there was no crime committed.

Gillard. Well she has music to face.

No court threw it out idiot.

A court did dismiss his indecent assault charge.

THis is an entirely separate crime we are talking about.

An assault that had 3 witnesses.

So no crime at all was committed then, not even one where a court had to throw it out.

Gee I wish I was a little closer than what you just told me. lol Now it is looking even more pathetic for you.


You have no problems voting for a bloke that assaults women?  Good for you.


THere are 3 witnesses to a bloke who wants to be PM committing assault.

And the bloke who was witnessed committing the assault denies it ever happened.

We know he is a sexist.  And it appears he has also assaulted women in the past.
Is he a good bloke to be a PM?

No crime committed. Sure. If a crime were committed, there would have been something done about it. Otherwise it could be a bunch of lefties hating on a righty. Who knows. I am certainly not going to bother with students fighting each other in an activist environment. Knock yourselves out kiddies, but if you get hurt, be sure to go to the police or ill call BS.


Since when is assault not a crime? moron

Since when is no assault, an assult you moron



punching the wall to scare or intimidate someone is assault  ... I dare you to try and argue that it isn't and prove to everyone what a real moron you are.
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Re: IT'S the wall-punching episode
Reply #31 - Mar 21st, 2013 at 10:25pm
 
John Smith wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 10:06pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 10:03pm:
John Smith wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 9:52pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 9:36pm:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 9:19pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 8:31pm:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 8:23pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 8:07pm:
John Smith wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 7:32pm:
Mentality of a liberal monkey

Abbott is accused of punching a wall  .. with three independent witnesses ... libs response, it's all lies, you cannot prove it, he wasn't charges


Gillard is accused of stealing union funds .... we are told by someone who knew someone who had a dog that heard someone say something ... no real proof despite months of waiting for Pickering or Smith to provide some ... libs response .. guilty, no need for a  trial, hang her, jail her ...



Difference. Court threw it out. No crime was committed. Get it. They had their activist go and the courts said there was no crime committed.

Gillard. Well she has music to face.

No court threw it out idiot.

A court did dismiss his indecent assault charge.

THis is an entirely separate crime we are talking about.

An assault that had 3 witnesses.

So no crime at all was committed then, not even one where a court had to throw it out.

Gee I wish I was a little closer than what you just told me. lol Now it is looking even more pathetic for you.


You have no problems voting for a bloke that assaults women?  Good for you.


THere are 3 witnesses to a bloke who wants to be PM committing assault.

And the bloke who was witnessed committing the assault denies it ever happened.

We know he is a sexist.  And it appears he has also assaulted women in the past.
Is he a good bloke to be a PM?

No crime committed. Sure. If a crime were committed, there would have been something done about it. Otherwise it could be a bunch of lefties hating on a righty. Who knows. I am certainly not going to bother with students fighting each other in an activist environment. Knock yourselves out kiddies, but if you get hurt, be sure to go to the police or ill call BS.


Since when is assault not a crime? moron

Since when is no assault, an assult you moron



punching the wall to scare or intimidate someone is assault  ... I dare you to try and argue that it isn't and prove to everyone what a real moron you are.

Nothing of the sort has been proven to any degree.
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Re: IT'S the wall-punching episode
Reply #32 - Mar 21st, 2013 at 11:42pm
 
progressiveslol wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 10:25pm:
Nothing of the sort has been proven to any degree.

There were (at least) 3 witnesses to the assault.

1 did not see the punch, but saw the immediate impact of it
1 saw the punch being thrown
1 was the victim herself

3 witnesses to assault.  Against the word of a man who has admitted he cannot be trusted:

"I know politicians are going to be judged on everything they say but sometimes in the heat of discussion you go a little bit further than you would if it was an absolutely calm, considered, prepared, scripted remark," he said.

3 witnesses to assault.  Against the word of a man who has also been charged with indecent assault.


You really are very trusting, aren't you.
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Re: IT'S the wall-punching episode
Reply #33 - Mar 21st, 2013 at 11:46pm
 
rabbitoh07 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 11:42pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 10:25pm:
Nothing of the sort has been proven to any degree.

There were (at least) 3 witnesses to the assault.

1 did not see the punch, but saw the immediate impact of it
1 saw the punch being thrown
1 was the victim herself

3 witnesses to assault.  Against the word of a man who has admitted he cannot be trusted:

"I know politicians are going to be judged on everything they say but sometimes in the heat of discussion you go a little bit further than you would if it was an absolutely calm, considered, prepared, scripted remark," he said.

3 witnesses to assault.  Against the word of a man who has also been charged with indecent assault.


You really are very trusting, aren't you.

Yeh still not proven. There could be any number of things that went on and they were certainly not the only people in the room.
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Re: IT'S the wall-punching episode
Reply #34 - Mar 21st, 2013 at 11:59pm
 
progressiveslol wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 11:46pm:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 11:42pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 10:25pm:
Nothing of the sort has been proven to any degree.

There were (at least) 3 witnesses to the assault.

1 did not see the punch, but saw the immediate impact of it
1 saw the punch being thrown
1 was the victim herself

3 witnesses to assault.  Against the word of a man who has admitted he cannot be trusted:

"I know politicians are going to be judged on everything they say but sometimes in the heat of discussion you go a little bit further than you would if it was an absolutely calm, considered, prepared, scripted remark," he said.

3 witnesses to assault.  Against the word of a man who has also been charged with indecent assault.


You really are very trusting, aren't you.

Yeh still not proven. There could be any number of things that went on and they were certainly not the only people in the room.

Are you saying Ms Ramjan is a liar?

Are you saying she has lied about the assault?

Shall I contact her solicitors for you?

Would you like to be part of the action she is taking against Michael Kroger?

Even your hero Alan Jones does not agree with you:

Even shock-jock Alan Jones decided it was time to cover his butt on this one, making this on-air apology:

“Ramjan is a person of high distinction having been awarded a D. Phil from Sydney Uni and she is married to a Supreme Court judge. Ramjan has spent years avoiding the limelight and glare of politics, choosing not to get involved after her student activity ceased. I was not aware of this and I accept now that the claim she was a serial liar is not factual.”

http://www.independentaustralia.net/2012/politics/the-animal-in-tony-abbott/

Are you saying both Ms Ramjan AND Alan Jones are liars?!?!?


Are you seriously telling us you think the 3 witnesses to this assault are all liars?
And Tony Abbott is telling the truth?!?!?

Seriously?!?!?!?!
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Re: IT'S the wall-punching episode
Reply #35 - Mar 22nd, 2013 at 12:00am
 
chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 6:25pm:
Does anyone really care what Abbott may or may not have done in 1977.
I would have thought what he does in 2013 would be more relevant.


No that doesn't matter either. it's what he's likely to do in 2014 and beyond that's a worry.
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Re: IT'S the wall-punching episode
Reply #36 - Mar 22nd, 2013 at 12:03am
 
rabbitoh07 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 11:59pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 11:46pm:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 11:42pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 10:25pm:
Nothing of the sort has been proven to any degree.

There were (at least) 3 witnesses to the assault.

1 did not see the punch, but saw the immediate impact of it
1 saw the punch being thrown
1 was the victim herself

3 witnesses to assault.  Against the word of a man who has admitted he cannot be trusted:

"I know politicians are going to be judged on everything they say but sometimes in the heat of discussion you go a little bit further than you would if it was an absolutely calm, considered, prepared, scripted remark," he said.

3 witnesses to assault.  Against the word of a man who has also been charged with indecent assault.


You really are very trusting, aren't you.

Yeh still not proven. There could be any number of things that went on and they were certainly not the only people in the room.

Are you saying Ms Ramjan is a liar?

Are you saying she has lied about the assault?

Shall I contact her solicitors for you?

Would you like to be part of the action she is taking against Michael Kroger?

Even your hero Alan Jones does not agree with you:

Even shock-jock Alan Jones decided it was time to cover his butt on this one, making this on-air apology:

“Ramjan is a person of high distinction having been awarded a D. Phil from Sydney Uni and she is married to a Supreme Court judge. Ramjan has spent years avoiding the limelight and glare of politics, choosing not to get involved after her student activity ceased. I was not aware of this and I accept now that the claim she was a serial liar is not factual.”

http://www.independentaustralia.net/2012/politics/the-animal-in-tony-abbott/

Are you saying both Ms Ramjan AND Alan Jones are liars?!?!?


Are you seriously telling us you think the 3 witnesses to this assault are all liars?
And Tony Abbott is telling the truth?!?!?

Seriously?!?!?!?!

Seriously. It wouldnt be the first time in history for someone to lie to manipulate their standing in life, be it Abbott or these people.

I am saying it is not proven and could be explained in many different ways. It has to be proven. They were not the only people in the room were they.
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Reply #37 - Mar 22nd, 2013 at 12:07am
 
progressiveslol wrote on Mar 22nd, 2013 at 12:03am:
I am saying it is not proven and could be explained in many different ways. It has to be proven. They were not the only people in the room were they.

You are saying that Ms Ramjan is a liar.

Is that what you are saying?
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Reply #38 - Mar 22nd, 2013 at 12:13am
 
rabbitoh07 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2013 at 12:07am:
progressiveslol wrote on Mar 22nd, 2013 at 12:03am:
I am saying it is not proven and could be explained in many different ways. It has to be proven. They were not the only people in the room were they.

You are saying that Ms Ramjan is a liar.

Is that what you are saying?

You dont read so well or comprehend do you. It is not up to anyone to believe anyone. It is up to someone to prove something.

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Reply #39 - Mar 22nd, 2013 at 10:26am
 
progressiveslol wrote on Mar 22nd, 2013 at 12:13am:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2013 at 12:07am:
progressiveslol wrote on Mar 22nd, 2013 at 12:03am:
I am saying it is not proven and could be explained in many different ways. It has to be proven. They were not the only people in the room were they.

You are saying that Ms Ramjan is a liar.

Is that what you are saying?

You dont read so well or comprehend do you. It is not up to anyone to believe anyone. It is up to someone to prove something.



And you have no comprehension skills at all .... for the story to be false you need to prove that all 3 witnesses are lying ... can you do that?
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Reply #40 - Mar 22nd, 2013 at 12:18pm
 
John Smith wrote on Mar 22nd, 2013 at 10:26am:
progressiveslol wrote on Mar 22nd, 2013 at 12:13am:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2013 at 12:07am:
progressiveslol wrote on Mar 22nd, 2013 at 12:03am:
I am saying it is not proven and could be explained in many different ways. It has to be proven. They were not the only people in the room were they.

You are saying that Ms Ramjan is a liar.

Is that what you are saying?

You dont read so well or comprehend do you. It is not up to anyone to believe anyone. It is up to someone to prove something.



And you have no comprehension skills at all .... for the story to be false you need to prove that all 3 witnesses are lying ... can you do that?

Hey, even if you are starting to believe our justice system works that way (truly stupid), you were the one that said that you dont have to prove anything to me. So likewise.
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Reply #41 - Mar 22nd, 2013 at 12:21pm
 
rabbitoh07 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 11:42pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 10:25pm:
Nothing of the sort has been proven to any degree.

There were (at least) 3 witnesses to the assault.

1 did not see the punch, but saw the immediate impact of it
1 saw the punch being thrown
1 was the victim herself

3 witnesses to assault.  Against the word of a man who has admitted he cannot be trusted:

"I know politicians are going to be judged on everything they say but sometimes in the heat of discussion you go a little bit further than you would if it was an absolutely calm, considered, prepared, scripted remark," he said.

3 witnesses to assault.  Against the word of a man who has also been charged with indecent assault.


You really are very trusting, aren't you.



No they aren't they all know he did it but are just as dishonest as he is.

They are all relying on implausible deniability.
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Reply #42 - Mar 22nd, 2013 at 1:56pm
 
progressiveslol wrote on Mar 22nd, 2013 at 12:18pm:
John Smith wrote on Mar 22nd, 2013 at 10:26am:
progressiveslol wrote on Mar 22nd, 2013 at 12:13am:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2013 at 12:07am:
progressiveslol wrote on Mar 22nd, 2013 at 12:03am:
I am saying it is not proven and could be explained in many different ways. It has to be proven. They were not the only people in the room were they.

You are saying that Ms Ramjan is a liar.

Is that what you are saying?

You dont read so well or comprehend do you. It is not up to anyone to believe anyone. It is up to someone to prove something.



And you have no comprehension skills at all .... for the story to be false you need to prove that all 3 witnesses are lying ... can you do that?

Hey, even if you are starting to believe our justice system works that way (truly stupid), you were the one that said that you dont have to prove anything to me. So likewise.


of course the justice system works that way ..

three independant witnesses stories all match up and you had better prove they are lying or your are going to jail ... how do you think it works? You think they simply refer to Pickering?
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Reply #43 - Mar 22nd, 2013 at 2:07pm
 
Saw a mate drop this gin once. She was asking everyone for money/smokes etc (the usual)

He told her to bugger off.

She was blind drunk and came at him ranting and raving, swinging her arms about.

POP, right on the beak.

THAT was a beautiful assault.

Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #44 - Mar 22nd, 2013 at 2:11pm
 
FriYAY wrote on Mar 22nd, 2013 at 2:07pm:
Saw a mate drop this gin once. She was asking everyone for money/smokes etc (the usual)

He told her to bugger off.

She was blind drunk and came at him ranting and raving, swinging her arms about.

POP, right on the beak.

THAT was a beautiful assault.

Grin Grin Grin



I can see why love Tony Abbott so much.
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