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An analysis of today's leadership spill
Mar 21^st, 2013 at 6:21pm

So, why did no one challenge Gillard? The answer is simple - no one believes Labor has a hope of winning the next election and therefore no one wants to lead the party to what is certain to be a whopping election defeat. Look at Rudd. He wants the job as badly as she does, but even he knows that now is not the time to be leading the ALP. Gillard wasn't re-elected un-opposed because of her performance, good or bad. It was simply because no one wanted the job and that's all there is to it.

Where to now for Labor? Nowhere but down. Rudd won't challenge and there's no other serious leadership contenders. There simply isn't any chance of recovery between now and September for the ALP. The focus for Labor is minimising the upcoming carnage, not winning. Some at ALP HQ will no doubt be planning for the years ahead as Labor moves along the road to recovery. I doubt we'll see a Labor PM for at least two, possibly even three elections.

Just about the only thing that will come from today's leadership spill will probably be an end to the talk of toppling Gillard, but that's the only good news that exists in the forseeable future for Gillard and Labor.

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38864 Gender:	Re: An analysis of today's leadership spill Reply #1 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 6:23pm Not enough existing Threads, you bugger wit?
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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26430 Gender:	Re: An analysis of today's leadership spill Reply #2 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 7:04pm Aussie wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 6:23pm: Not enough existing Threads, you bugger wit? Ahh, another Laborite upset at the prospect of there being no prospect of Labor winning an election for at least the next decade...
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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Re: An analysis of today's leadership spill Reply #3 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 7:05pm Aussie wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 6:23pm: Not enough existing Threads, you bugger wit? No. We should have 3 pages of threads on this pathetic labor party who couldnt get a chook raffle right. F n idiot.
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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26430 Gender:	Re: An analysis of today's leadership spill Reply #4 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 7:09pm Obviously even the Leftards agree with my analysis - no one has refuted it but they're happy to turn to abuse, which is their Dear Leaders' default position...
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38864 Gender:	Re: An analysis of today's leadership spill Reply #5 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 7:16pm You could have used this Thread. Or.. this one. Why start another redundant Thread?
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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26430 Gender:	Re: An analysis of today's leadership spill Reply #6 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 9:03pm Aussie wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 7:16pm: You could have used this Thread. Or.. this one. Why start another redundant Thread? Or this one!!!
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Re: An analysis of today's leadership spill
Reply #7 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 9:49pm

Gillard
Still where she is before today - there will be no carbon tax under a government i lead

Swan
Still an idiot - a loyal idiot but an idiot

ALP
2PP should get worse

Rudd
What an absolute coward. Have lost all credibility for future challenges. He's now GAWN

Crean
Hero. But Gawn

Fitzgibbon
Gawn

Abbott
Sprinkles on top of his already great 2PP position. Even his careless comment today have been lost in all of this farce. Abbott still have more ammo to attack Labor about the failed media reform as well as this cowardly challenge

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Re: An analysis of today's leadership spill
Reply #8 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 10:31pm

Gillard committed to carbon price: Wong

http://www.businessspectator.com.au/news/2010/7/1/policy-politics/gillard-commit...

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Prime Minister Julia Gillard is strongly committed to putting a price on carbon, her climate change minister has said at a major climate summit - 1st July 2010

This is why I preferenced Labor in August 2010.

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Hunt says Coalition accepts IPCC findings

"What does this mean? It means that we need to do practical things that actually reduce emissions."

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Re: An analysis of today's leadership spill
Reply #9 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 10:43pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 6:21pm:

So, why did no one challenge Gillard? The answer is simple - no one believes Labor has a hope of winning the next election and therefore no one wants to lead the party to what is certain to be a whopping election defeat. Look at Rudd. He wants the job as badly as she does, but even he knows that now is not the time to be leading the ALP. Gillard wasn't re-elected un-opposed because of her performance, good or bad. It was simply because no one wanted the job and that's all there is to it.

Where to now for Labor? Nowhere but down. Rudd won't challenge and there's no other serious leadership contenders. There simply isn't any chance of recovery between now and September for the ALP. The focus for Labor is minimising the upcoming carnage, not winning. Some at ALP HQ will no doubt be planning for the years ahead as Labor moves along the road to recovery. I doubt we'll see a Labor PM for at least two, possibly even three elections.

Just about the only thing that will come from today's leadership spill will probably be an end to the talk of toppling Gillard, but that's the only good news that exists in the forseeable future for Gillard and Labor.

Possible, but the proposition of Rudd simply not having the numbers is just as probable.

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namnugenot Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 639 NSW Gender:	Re: An analysis of today's leadership spill Reply #10 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 10:45pm Her guts will be all over the place post election. No one wants to swap places with her before then.
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Re: An analysis of today's leadership spill
Reply #11 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 11:26pm

MOTR wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 10:31pm:

Gillard committed to carbon price: Wong

http://www.businessspectator.com.au/news/2010/7/1/policy-politics/gillard-commit...

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Prime Minister Julia Gillard is strongly committed to putting a price on carbon, her climate change minister has said at a major climate summit - 1st July 2010

This is why I preferenced Labor in August 2010.

Then in August 2010 she changed her mind and she said there would be no carbon tax

That's why she lied

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Bill 14% is not the alcohol content of that wine. It's your poll number

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Re: An analysis of today's leadership spill
Reply #12 - Mar 22^nd, 2013 at 12:05am

MOTR wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 10:31pm:

Gillard committed to carbon price: Wong

http://www.businessspectator.com.au/news/2010/7/1/policy-politics/gillard-commit...

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Prime Minister Julia Gillard is strongly committed to putting a price on carbon, her climate change minister has said at a major climate summit - 1st July 2010

This is why I preferenced Labor in August 2010.

Except she blew it big time and the climate has said a big "Stuff you"

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Re: An analysis of today's leadership spill
Reply #13 - Mar 22^nd, 2013 at 4:34am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 6:21pm:

So, why did no one challenge Gillard? The answer is simple - no one believes Labor has a hope of winning the next election and therefore no one wants to lead the party to what is certain to be a whopping election defeat. Look at Rudd. He wants the job as badly as she does, but even he knows that now is not the time to be leading the ALP. Gillard wasn't re-elected un-opposed because of her performance, good or bad. It was simply because no one wanted the job and that's all there is to it.

Where to now for Labor? Nowhere but down. Rudd won't challenge and there's no other serious leadership contenders. There simply isn't any chance of recovery between now and September for the ALP. The focus for Labor is minimising the upcoming carnage, not winning. Some at ALP HQ will no doubt be planning for the years ahead as Labor moves along the road to recovery. I doubt we'll see a Labor PM for at least two, possibly even three elections.

Just about the only thing that will come from today's leadership spill will probably be an end to the talk of toppling Gillard, but that's the only good news that exists in the forseeable future for Gillard and Labor.

Wow another thread on the same topic as the other 100.

Nobody challenged gillard because nobody wants to change leaders. the whole thing was the shut the dishonest media speculation about rudd up.

SOB

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Re: An analysis of today's leadership spill
Reply #14 - Mar 22^nd, 2013 at 5:16am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2013 at 4:34am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 6:21pm:

So, why did no one challenge Gillard? The answer is simple - no one believes Labor has a hope of winning the next election and therefore no one wants to lead the party to what is certain to be a whopping election defeat. Look at Rudd. He wants the job as badly as she does, but even he knows that now is not the time to be leading the ALP. Gillard wasn't re-elected un-opposed because of her performance, good or bad. It was simply because no one wanted the job and that's all there is to it.

Where to now for Labor? Nowhere but down. Rudd won't challenge and there's no other serious leadership contenders. There simply isn't any chance of recovery between now and September for the ALP. The focus for Labor is minimising the upcoming carnage, not winning. Some at ALP HQ will no doubt be planning for the years ahead as Labor moves along the road to recovery. I doubt we'll see a Labor PM for at least two, possibly even three elections.

Just about the only thing that will come from today's leadership spill will probably be an end to the talk of toppling Gillard, but that's the only good news that exists in the forseeable future for Gillard and Labor.

Wow another thread on the same topic as the other 100.

Nobody challenged gillard because nobody wants to change leaders. the whole thing was the shut the dishonest media speculation about rudd up.

SOB

Oh I see, you mean that since Conroy's media muzzling failed, they came up with this cunning plan to protect Julia from being picked on.

Fish is good for the brain, spot. Go and nibble on a sardine...

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