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Re: Why is Rudd hated?
Reply #75 - Mar 26^th, 2013 at 9:30am

red baron wrote on Mar 26^th, 2013 at 8:51am:

Kevin Rudd tries and until recently when his mask has slipped (and his halo) to be a smiling pleasant man who can get on with just about everyone.

The truth is when he went on angels' wings to the Prime Minister ship his truth self came out.

Rudd is a serial micro manager who doesn't trust anyone to do their job properly, as a result of this he 'ran' every department in the Government....the result one unholy mess.

Also Rudd is a foul mouthed individual who has the capacity to make a sailor blush. He is a tyrant and gives everyone around him a really hard time.

Remember the plane incident, where he walked with spiked shoes over a hapless hostess over what meals were available, just a small example.

He is a prick first class and many pollies have said they would rather lose Government than serve under him again.

The little megalomaniac didn't even have the guts to stand and allowed his colleagues, good men all, to fall on their swords.

I don't disagree with much of this, but Crean was also partly author of his own misfortune.

He needed an undertaking from Rudd, written in blood, that if he (Crean) called for a spill, Rudd would stand.

This is Political Strategy 101. Make sure you've got the numbers, then launch your challenge.

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Re: Why is Rudd hated?
Reply #76 - Mar 26^th, 2013 at 10:31am

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 26^th, 2013 at 8:11am:

Kat wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 7:00pm:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 11:50am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 11:43am:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 11:42am:

Re: Why is Rudd hated?

I see him a lot like Abbott - there are plenty of good people who would make a terrible PM these are just two of them.

Gough Whitlam also springs to mind.

Silly comment - Gough was a reformer - he achieved a lot in a short space of time, one of the very best leaders we had, his big problem was that his team let him down and his mistake was to allow the Fraser opposition to bully the government.

Couldn't agree more.

Getting rid of the Whitlam govt REEKED of 'cutting off your nose to
spite your face' and the 'cure' was much worse than the disease.

The whole thing was driven by deliberately misrepresenting the true
facts, much as the current Con-alition is doing. The talking-down of
a (good) economy, deliberately but falsely maligning govt ministers
and blatantly marginalising and demonising those on welfare. This
was the genesis of the 'dole bludger' lie.

It all seems so depressingly familiar, a sense of deja vu is in the air.

So, having learned NOTHING in the intervening 38 years, a deliberately
misinformed electorate is planning to make EXACTLY the same mistake
in September that it made 38 years ago.

I'm finding it very hard to have any sympathy for the electorate, for it
will once again have failed to see the truth behind the Con-alition lies
and a deceitful, manipulative, bought-and-paid-for media.

It will richly deserve everything it gets (except the inevitable vote-
buying wealthfare bribes).

wow... supporting Whitlam and describing it as a great govt. Is there any better way to shred your credibility?

Well, yes.

Holding YOUR views on the Whitlam govt...

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Re: Why is Rudd hated?
Reply #77 - Mar 26^th, 2013 at 10:34am

Julia Gillard is treading a very dangerous path because whilst she has beheaded Rudd supporters left, right and centre, she has promoted Anthony ALBANESE to further Ministerial responsibilities.

It is my great belief that Albanese was at the centre if the plotting and planning. It is my belief that he was the one who talked Simon Crean, a decent, decent man into causing the spill giving him guarantees about the outcome.

The Rest is history. It is a very, very dangerous path that Gillard is treading, she has promoted the Enemy Within, i.e Anthony Albanese for his misdeeds. This is a path strewn with peril and I believe it will cause her no end of angst before September comes.

For some reason Albanese is the Svengali of the Labor Party and somehow has escaped the Red Queen's wrath. She will do well to watch his every move because he moves faster than a rattlesnake.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75258 Gender:	Re: Why is Rudd hated? Reply #78 - Mar 26^th, 2013 at 10:43am longweekend58 wrote on Mar 26^th, 2013 at 8:11am: wow... supporting Whitlam and describing it as a great govt. Is there any better way to shred your credibility? yep ... supporting Abbott.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75258 Gender:	Re: Why is Rudd hated? Reply #79 - Mar 26^th, 2013 at 10:45am red baron wrote on Mar 26^th, 2013 at 10:34am: It is my belief red baron wrote on Mar 26^th, 2013 at 10:34am: It is my great belief anything at all to support your argument other than your belief?
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Re: Why is Rudd hated?
Reply #80 - Mar 26^th, 2013 at 10:51am

red baron wrote on Mar 26^th, 2013 at 8:51am:

Kevin Rudd tries and until recently when his mask has slipped (and his halo) to be a smiling pleasant man who can get on with just about everyone.

The truth is when he went on angels' wings to the Prime Minister ship his truth self came out.

Rudd is a serial micro manager who doesn't trust anyone to do their job properly, as a result of this he 'ran' every department in the Government....the result one unholy mess.

Also Rudd is a foul mouthed individual who has the capacity to make a sailor blush. He is a tyrant and gives everyone around him a really hard time.

Remember the plane incident, where he walked with spiked shoes over a hapless hostess over what meals were available, just a small example.

He is a prick first class and many pollies have said they would rather lose Government than serve under him again.

The little megalomaniac didn't even have the guts to stand and allowed his colleagues, good men all, to fall on their swords.

bump

hit the nail on the head there baron

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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: Why is Rudd hated? Reply #81 - Mar 26^th, 2013 at 11:30am Like everyone else, I have an opinion John Smith, like everyone else has an opinion. And I will voice that opinion whether you like it or nor matters not a spec to me.
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Re: Why is Rudd hated?
Reply #82 - Mar 26^th, 2013 at 3:47pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 26^th, 2013 at 8:13am:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 11:49pm:

Why is Rudd hated?

Who hates Rudd????

I would think that if you hate everyone you do not want for PM then there are about 22 Million of us to hate.

who hates RUDD?????

try the entire ALP. even his supporters are now sick of him.

If they all hate him how come over a third still want him as leader?

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Re: Why is Rudd hated?
Reply #83 - Mar 26^th, 2013 at 3:51pm

red baron wrote on Mar 26^th, 2013 at 11:30am:

Like everyone else, I have an opinion John Smith, like everyone else has an opinion. And I will voice that opinion whether you like it or nor matters not a spec to me.

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Re: Why is Rudd hated?
Reply #84 - Mar 26^th, 2013 at 3:51pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 26^th, 2013 at 10:45am:

red baron wrote on Mar 26^th, 2013 at 10:34am:

It is my belief

red baron wrote on Mar 26^th, 2013 at 10:34am:

It is my great belief

anything at all to support your argument other than your belief?

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