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Mar 23rd, 2013 at 1:32am
 
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The $37 billion National Broadband Network could be delayed by up to 10 years, according to a senior Melbourne academic.Â

On Thursday for the rollout by at least 34 per cent, blaming the delay on contractors.

It has dropped its June 30 target of 341,000 premises connected to 190,000-220,000 premises, but the company maintains it is on track to complete the network in 2021 as planned.

Senior engineering lecturer at RMIT University, Mark Gregory, says he expects NBN Co to downgrade its targets even further before the end of the year, which would have flow-on effects for the overall project's timing.

"If we continue down the path that we are going with external contractors doing the rollout, we'd expect [the rollout] could take five to 10 years longer than predicted," Dr Gregory said.

"We should expect it to cost anywhere between 50 to 100 per cent more than before."

Dr Gregory says there is evidence that NBN Co contractors are "cherry-picking" the areas they connect.

"Certainly I believe that we are seeing it happening already with the figures that we are getting from NBN Co," he said.

"The contractors are missing difficult areas, the rollout itself has already been planned as such that only areas that are easy to do are being cherry-picked."

But Dr Gregory says the problems could be fixed if the NBN Co goes ahead with creating its own construction arm to build the network.

Melbourne property developer David Steele has two land developments where homeowners are waiting to be connected.

He said he was initially told by NBN Co the network would be running past the developments by January this year.

Instead that has been pushed back to May.

"I'm not confident it will be even connected by then either," Mr Steele said.

Poor timing?

The NBN Co said its downgrade only worked out to around three months of a decade-long project and it was confident it could recoup the delay.Â

The cutting of targets was announced during a phone conference arranged with around an hour's notice - right in the middle of Labor's leadership crisis in Canberra.

During the call, NBN Co CEO Mike Quigley denied any link and said he could only release the figures after the board met earlier that day.

"I can assure you that the events taking place today were of no connection at all to the process that we're going through," Mr Quigley said.Â

Opposition communications spokesman .

"It was pathetic really, it's a very old and shabby and cynical media management technique," Mr Turnbull said.Â

Mr Turnbull claims the board knew there would be a delay in the rollout weeks ago.

"The board was aware of this failure in the rollout... for quite a few weeks. So they've known about this for a long time and they frankly should have made those figures available immediately," he said.

"Now if they'd been a publically listed company they would have had to make them available immediately. So this is another one of those examples where a government-owned business has less accountability than a publically listed company."

NBN Co blamed the cutting of targets on its contractors.

This week it took over responsibility for the construction in the Northern Territory from contractor Syntheo.

Syntheo will continue to manage the rollout in Western Australia and South Australia.

"We are accountable for the delay and are disappointed it as occurred," Mr Quigley said.

A spokesman for Communications Minister Stephen Conroy said there were short term challenges in a 10-year infrastructure project which would be overcome.
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Reply #1 - Mar 23rd, 2013 at 1:37am
 
Delivery date blowout
In 2007 they promised it by 2010. Now it will blowout to 2023


Cost blowout
In 2007 they promised it would cost $4.7B. Now it will cost $78B?
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Reply #2 - Mar 23rd, 2013 at 5:26am
 
This is pink batts, school halls, etc all over again. Labor just can't get it right when there's billions of dollars of our money at stake.
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Reply #3 - Mar 23rd, 2013 at 5:31am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 23rd, 2013 at 5:26am:
This is pink batts, school halls, etc all over again. Labor just can't get it right when there's billions of dollars of our money at stake.

Yes, the ol "this has labor written all over it" and "I told you so"
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Reply #4 - Mar 23rd, 2013 at 6:45am
 
where is that nbn myths,

sounds of crickets chirping

and that halfwit DRAH

labor funding a monopoly to roll out infrastructure.  always just move the decimal point one to the right
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Reply #5 - Mar 23rd, 2013 at 10:35am
 
$78B for faster pornography - boo yeah
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Reply #6 - Mar 23rd, 2013 at 10:40am
 
Even if this worst case scenario was true, you should be thankful you're getting it at all.  It's nice to get something I can actually use for my tax dollars instead of just more ivory back scarcthers and new cars for pollies.
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Reply #7 - Mar 23rd, 2013 at 10:52am
 
Maqqa wrote on Mar 23rd, 2013 at 10:35am:
$78B for faster pornography - boo yeah


If thats all you use your pc for then all power to you. But dont deny the business and education sectors faster and more powerful communications just because all you use the internet for is cruising  porn.
The good news is its something you have in common with Fred Nile  Smiley
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Reply #8 - Mar 23rd, 2013 at 10:58am
 
adelcrow wrote on Mar 23rd, 2013 at 10:52am:
Maqqa wrote on Mar 23rd, 2013 at 10:35am:
$78B for faster pornography - boo yeah


If thats all you use your pc for then all power to you. But dont deny the business and education sectors faster and more powerful communications just because all you use the internet for is cruising  porn.
The good news is its something you have in common with Fred Nile  Smiley



So tell me what you can't achieve now under the current system that you can achieve under the NBN.

Spending $78B - you should have more than 10 examples for each of the topic you brought up

Lets look at the education. Which degree do you need an NBN to complete that you cannot do now?!
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Reply #9 - Mar 23rd, 2013 at 11:00am
 
Maqqa wrote on Mar 23rd, 2013 at 10:58am:
So tell me what you can't achieve now under the current system that you can achieve under the NBN.



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Duh...and while you're at it, tell me what the latest mercedes can do that a donkey and cart can't.
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Reply #10 - Mar 23rd, 2013 at 11:03am
 
... wrote on Mar 23rd, 2013 at 11:00am:
Maqqa wrote on Mar 23rd, 2013 at 10:58am:
So tell me what you can't achieve now under the current system that you can achieve under the NBN.




Duh...and while you're at it, tell me what the latest mercedes can do that a donkey and cart can't.



So you are saying that the NBN will reduce the time you can get a degree?
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Reply #11 - Mar 23rd, 2013 at 11:06am
 
Maqqa wrote on Mar 23rd, 2013 at 11:03am:
... wrote on Mar 23rd, 2013 at 11:00am:
Maqqa wrote on Mar 23rd, 2013 at 10:58am:
So tell me what you can't achieve now under the current system that you can achieve under the NBN.




Duh...and while you're at it, tell me what the latest mercedes can do that a donkey and cart can't.



So you are saying that the NBN will reduce the time you can get a degree?


Geez Maqqa..you obviously dont have kids in school, ever owned a business or been to uni if you think bringing our communications up to a modern standard is a waste of time.
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Reply #12 - Mar 23rd, 2013 at 12:29pm
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 23rd, 2013 at 5:26am:
This is pink batts, school halls, etc all over again. Labor just can't get it right when there's billions of dollars of our money at stake.





It's astounding that ANYONE is still swallowing this Murcoch TOSH


The Home Insulation Scheme - besides reducing energy bills and cutting carbon emissions - has CUT workplace injuries, workplace fatalities and related house fires by roughly 80%ALL due to a FIRST EVER safety standards code and licencing introduced to coincide with the scheme

The four related workplace deaths ( ... ALL of which were through employers acting ILLEGALLY) was STATISTICALLY a "good figure" - MANY more workers dying on smaller projects in our history
But you'll NEVER get ANY politician to say that to the electorate, a mother or father



Australia's BIGGEST EVER nation building project - the BER - was found to have delivered 98.5% value for money by an independent, non-government panel of auditors
The *HUNDRED odd projects that DIDN'T ( ... far more than the dozen or so misleading exploited by The Australian) may sound a lot, but is a PITTANCE in relation to the 8000 plus that DID and continue to DO

*( ... almost HALF of these were DIRECTLY managed by the NSW Education Dept - NOT the Rudd Government)



BOTH schemes have gained international praise as major components of the Rudd/Swan GFC stimulus packages that delivered the A1 economy we have in 2013 - and an unemployment rate HALF that of the rest of the world




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Reply #13 - Mar 23rd, 2013 at 12:46pm
 
... wrote on Mar 23rd, 2013 at 11:00am:
Maqqa wrote on Mar 23rd, 2013 at 10:58am:
So tell me what you can't achieve now under the current system that you can achieve under the NBN.



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Duh...and while you're at it, tell me what the latest mercedes can do that a donkey and cart can't.


the proper comparsion is between a $300K Mercededs AMG and a $80,000 Ford GT-P.  similar performance, notquite as luxurious but does everything the merc can do.

THATs the proper analogy
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Reply #14 - Mar 23rd, 2013 at 12:49pm
 
adelcrow wrote on Mar 23rd, 2013 at 11:06am:
Maqqa wrote on Mar 23rd, 2013 at 11:03am:
... wrote on Mar 23rd, 2013 at 11:00am:
Maqqa wrote on Mar 23rd, 2013 at 10:58am:
So tell me what you can't achieve now under the current system that you can achieve under the NBN.




Duh...and while you're at it, tell me what the latest mercedes can do that a donkey and cart can't.



So you are saying that the NBN will reduce the time you can get a degree?


Geez Maqqa..you obviously dont have kids in school, ever owned a business or been to uni if you think bringing our communications up to a modern standard is a waste of time.


i run a business that does all its marketing and presence on the web. The NBN gives me no advantage at all. None whatsoever. my website is already fast and 20,000 emails will go the same speed they always did - not that 10 times the speed would make any difference.

And I have had kids at school and some and university and ADSL has managed to download and submit assingments quite fine. Downloanding/streaming lectures manages to work quite well too and that is on WIRELESS at times.

so tell me again what the NBN will do that ADSL cant.
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