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Re: Watch out Abbott
Reply #15 - Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 12:29pm

MOTR wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 12:21pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 12:06pm:

MOTR wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 10:49am:

Without the crippling media speculation of a Rudd challenge, I'm looking forward to a fairer fight.

Let's see how Abbott copes now that Gillard doesn't have one hand tied behind her back.

Your ability to try and see a positive in this weeks farce is nice but I feel a tad delusional.
It wouldn't matter what she does people have stopped listening and are biding their time until the election.

I don't under any circumstances want an Abbott PM and am highly skeptical of the line "they cant be any worse" but unfortunately Labor have destroyed any chance with this weeks sideshow. Angry

Without Crean flushing Rudd out, the Rudd/Gillard dynamic would have sucked most of the oxygen from the election campaign. Our economy is in good shape. Inflation is low, interest rates and mortgage payments have been reduced, household savings are growing, unemployment has been pegged at below 5.5% and labour productivity is growing along with real wages. The current government has brought us through some massive external shocks in very good shape. They are not an incompetent government.

This election can be won by Gillard if she can get the debate back on policy. Burning off Rudd has come at a cost, but long run the Labor Party is in a much better position to shift the fight to winning ground.

The problem is far from Abbott. Gillard is the one that showed because poll numbers are down, you need to replace the leader. You wantthe debate back on policy. Be careful what you wish for, because labors policies are train wrecks.

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Reply #16 - Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 12:29pm

Maqqa wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 10:56am:

Last time anyone looked - the polls has Abbott in front of the PM when asked about the preferred PM. Rudd was not part of that equation

Actually that's not true, the last polls had Gillard back in front by a fair margin. Now if someone as buggered as her is preffered over phony tony he must be a dead sh it. I don't intend to vote at all in the election, while I vote Greens I would have to preference one of the majors, and Labor do not deserve my preference. As for the Libs under Abbott I will not be a part in installing a total nut case as PM. You wankers that support this prick are going to have to take every bit of the blame for the women basher becoming PM.

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Re: Watch out Abbott
Reply #17 - Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 12:31pm

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 12:29pm:

MOTR wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 12:21pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 12:06pm:

MOTR wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 10:49am:

Without the crippling media speculation of a Rudd challenge, I'm looking forward to a fairer fight.

Let's see how Abbott copes now that Gillard doesn't have one hand tied behind her back.

Your ability to try and see a positive in this weeks farce is nice but I feel a tad delusional.
It wouldn't matter what she does people have stopped listening and are biding their time until the election.

I don't under any circumstances want an Abbott PM and am highly skeptical of the line "they cant be any worse" but unfortunately Labor have destroyed any chance with this weeks sideshow. Angry

Without Crean flushing Rudd out, the Rudd/Gillard dynamic would have sucked most of the oxygen from the election campaign. Our economy is in good shape. Inflation is low, interest rates and mortgage payments have been reduced, household savings are growing, unemployment has been pegged at below 5.5% and labour productivity is growing along with real wages. The current government has brought us through some massive external shocks in very good shape. They are not an incompetent government.

This election can be won by Gillard if she can get the debate back on policy. Burning off Rudd has come at a cost, but long run the Labor Party is in a much better position to shift the fight to winning ground.

The problem is far from Abbott. Gillard is the one that showed because poll numbers are down, you need to replace the leader. You wantthe debate back on policy. Be careful what you wish for, because labors policies are train wrecks.

Labors policies are not train wrecks their leadership team is. If Labor had a Hawke or Keating selling their policies against a women basher like Abbott they would be 70 / 30 in front.

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Re: Watch out Abbott
Reply #18 - Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 12:33pm

skippy. wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 12:31pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 12:29pm:

MOTR wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 12:21pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 12:06pm:

MOTR wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 10:49am:

Without the crippling media speculation of a Rudd challenge, I'm looking forward to a fairer fight.

Let's see how Abbott copes now that Gillard doesn't have one hand tied behind her back.

Your ability to try and see a positive in this weeks farce is nice but I feel a tad delusional.
It wouldn't matter what she does people have stopped listening and are biding their time until the election.

I don't under any circumstances want an Abbott PM and am highly skeptical of the line "they cant be any worse" but unfortunately Labor have destroyed any chance with this weeks sideshow. Angry

Without Crean flushing Rudd out, the Rudd/Gillard dynamic would have sucked most of the oxygen from the election campaign. Our economy is in good shape. Inflation is low, interest rates and mortgage payments have been reduced, household savings are growing, unemployment has been pegged at below 5.5% and labour productivity is growing along with real wages. The current government has brought us through some massive external shocks in very good shape. They are not an incompetent government.

This election can be won by Gillard if she can get the debate back on policy. Burning off Rudd has come at a cost, but long run the Labor Party is in a much better position to shift the fight to winning ground.

The problem is far from Abbott. Gillard is the one that showed because poll numbers are down, you need to replace the leader. You wantthe debate back on policy. Be careful what you wish for, because labors policies are train wrecks.

Labors policies are not train wrecks their leadership team is. If Labor had a Hawke or Keating selling their policies against a women basher like Abbott they would be 70 / 30 in front.

Yeh you keep being sexists as if the woman leading your party doesnt exist and hawke or keating would be better than a woman.

Yeh yeh, we get you lot.

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MOTR Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6646	Re: Watch out Abbott Reply #19 - Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 12:35pm That's assuming a relatively benign media, skippy.
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Re: Watch out Abbott
Reply #20 - Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 12:35pm

MOTR wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 12:21pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 12:06pm:

MOTR wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 10:49am:

Without the crippling media speculation of a Rudd challenge, I'm looking forward to a fairer fight.

Let's see how Abbott copes now that Gillard doesn't have one hand tied behind her back.

Your ability to try and see a positive in this weeks farce is nice but I feel a tad delusional.
It wouldn't matter what she does people have stopped listening and are biding their time until the election.

I don't under any circumstances want an Abbott PM and am highly skeptical of the line "they cant be any worse" but unfortunately Labor have destroyed any chance with this weeks sideshow. Angry

Without Crean flushing Rudd out, the Rudd/Gillard dynamic would have sucked most of the oxygen from the election campaign. Our economy is in good shape. Inflation is low, interest rates and mortgage payments have been reduced, household savings are growing, unemployment has been pegged at below 5.5% and labour productivity is growing along with real wages. The current government has brought us through some massive external shocks in very good shape. They are not an incompetent government.

This election can be won by Gillard if she can get the debate back on policy. Burning off Rudd has come at a cost, but long run the Labor Party is in a much better position to shift the fight to winning ground.

That's ignorant at best and delusional at worst.

Labor is toxic now. They are beyond saving, the gap is colossal.

They had a chance.
It was Rudd.

They tossed it aside and they are so stupid they are dancing over the cliff with an unpopular leader.

It's all over.
Abbott is PM.

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Reply #21 - Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 12:36pm

skippy. wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 12:31pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 12:29pm:

MOTR wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 12:21pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 12:06pm:

MOTR wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 10:49am:

Without the crippling media speculation of a Rudd challenge, I'm looking forward to a fairer fight.

Let's see how Abbott copes now that Gillard doesn't have one hand tied behind her back.

Your ability to try and see a positive in this weeks farce is nice but I feel a tad delusional.
It wouldn't matter what she does people have stopped listening and are biding their time until the election.

I don't under any circumstances want an Abbott PM and am highly skeptical of the line "they cant be any worse" but unfortunately Labor have destroyed any chance with this weeks sideshow. Angry

Without Crean flushing Rudd out, the Rudd/Gillard dynamic would have sucked most of the oxygen from the election campaign. Our economy is in good shape. Inflation is low, interest rates and mortgage payments have been reduced, household savings are growing, unemployment has been pegged at below 5.5% and labour productivity is growing along with real wages. The current government has brought us through some massive external shocks in very good shape. They are not an incompetent government.

This election can be won by Gillard if she can get the debate back on policy. Burning off Rudd has come at a cost, but long run the Labor Party is in a much better position to shift the fight to winning ground.

The problem is far from Abbott. Gillard is the one that showed because poll numbers are down, you need to replace the leader. You wantthe debate back on policy. Be careful what you wish for, because labors policies are train wrecks.

Labors policies are not train wrecks their leadership team is. If Labor had a Hawke or Keating selling their policies against a women basher like Abbott they would be 70 / 30 in front.

I don't like Abbott in the slightest, and think he will be a disaster as PM, but I don't think it's fair to call him a woman basher. Labor are gifting the election to Abbott. He has it made on a silver platter, Labor has no chance in hell if they keep Gillard, which now it looks like they will. I can't believe that Australians are going to vote for Abbott, it's really a shame and a shock that they could be so stupid. Sad

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Re: Watch out Abbott
Reply #22 - Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 12:38pm

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 12:33pm:

skippy. wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 12:31pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 12:29pm:

MOTR wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 12:21pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 12:06pm:

MOTR wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 10:49am:

Without the crippling media speculation of a Rudd challenge, I'm looking forward to a fairer fight.

Let's see how Abbott copes now that Gillard doesn't have one hand tied behind her back.

Your ability to try and see a positive in this weeks farce is nice but I feel a tad delusional.
It wouldn't matter what she does people have stopped listening and are biding their time until the election.

I don't under any circumstances want an Abbott PM and am highly skeptical of the line "they cant be any worse" but unfortunately Labor have destroyed any chance with this weeks sideshow. Angry

Without Crean flushing Rudd out, the Rudd/Gillard dynamic would have sucked most of the oxygen from the election campaign. Our economy is in good shape. Inflation is low, interest rates and mortgage payments have been reduced, household savings are growing, unemployment has been pegged at below 5.5% and labour productivity is growing along with real wages. The current government has brought us through some massive external shocks in very good shape. They are not an incompetent government.

This election can be won by Gillard if she can get the debate back on policy. Burning off Rudd has come at a cost, but long run the Labor Party is in a much better position to shift the fight to winning ground.

The problem is far from Abbott. Gillard is the one that showed because poll numbers are down, you need to replace the leader. You wantthe debate back on policy. Be careful what you wish for, because labors policies are train wrecks.

Labors policies are not train wrecks their leadership team is. If Labor had a Hawke or Keating selling their policies against a women basher like Abbott they would be 70 / 30 in front.

Yeh you keep being sexists as if the woman leading your party doesnt exist and hawke or keating would be better than a woman.

Yeh yeh, we get you lot.

Only a fvckwit would take my comment as being sexist, you lived up to my expectations, again. Roll Eyes

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Re: Watch out Abbott
Reply #23 - Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 12:39pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 12:35pm:

MOTR wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 12:21pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 12:06pm:

MOTR wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 10:49am:

Without the crippling media speculation of a Rudd challenge, I'm looking forward to a fairer fight.

Let's see how Abbott copes now that Gillard doesn't have one hand tied behind her back.

Your ability to try and see a positive in this weeks farce is nice but I feel a tad delusional.
It wouldn't matter what she does people have stopped listening and are biding their time until the election.

I don't under any circumstances want an Abbott PM and am highly skeptical of the line "they cant be any worse" but unfortunately Labor have destroyed any chance with this weeks sideshow. Angry

Without Crean flushing Rudd out, the Rudd/Gillard dynamic would have sucked most of the oxygen from the election campaign. Our economy is in good shape. Inflation is low, interest rates and mortgage payments have been reduced, household savings are growing, unemployment has been pegged at below 5.5% and labour productivity is growing along with real wages. The current government has brought us through some massive external shocks in very good shape. They are not an incompetent government.

This election can be won by Gillard if she can get the debate back on policy. Burning off Rudd has come at a cost, but long run the Labor Party is in a much better position to shift the fight to winning ground.

That's ignorant at best and delusional at worst.

Labor is toxic now. They are beyond saving, the gap is colossal.

They had a chance.
It was Rudd.

They tossed it aside and they are so stupid they are dancing over the cliff with an unpopular leader.

It's all over.
Abbott is PM.

We're not lemmings.

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Re: Watch out Abbott
Reply #24 - Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 12:40pm

adelcrow wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 11:23am:

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 11:16am:

adelcrow wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 11:04am:

If Vic and the NT are anything to go by Abbott wont last a year before he gets replaced
The bitter old witch Julie Bishop who hates children and families could do what Jewliar did to KRudd..

You have the wrong Juli(x). You need Juliar.

You need someone who is a lesbian. Has fought for lesbians. Someone who has changed shared parenting and made the family court more sexist. You need a misandrist. You need someone who has fought most of their adult life for the commie/socialists. You need someone who thinks kids mothers are prostitutes. Most of all, you need someone in a sham relationship with a gay man.

Its pronounced Jewliar..its was used pre ww2 to dehumanise the Jews.
Its not a new term..Jones didnt invent it..he stole it.

I can accuse Juliar of many things but wouldn't call her a Jew. Doesn't look like one nor has the brain-power of many Jews. Members of this race are frugal in matters of money while she hasn't a clue, not even if her job depends on her spending.

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Re: Watch out Abbott
Reply #25 - Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 12:40pm

skippy. wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 12:38pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 12:33pm:

skippy. wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 12:31pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 12:29pm:

MOTR wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 12:21pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 12:06pm:

MOTR wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 10:49am:

Without the crippling media speculation of a Rudd challenge, I'm looking forward to a fairer fight.

Let's see how Abbott copes now that Gillard doesn't have one hand tied behind her back.

Your ability to try and see a positive in this weeks farce is nice but I feel a tad delusional.
It wouldn't matter what she does people have stopped listening and are biding their time until the election.

I don't under any circumstances want an Abbott PM and am highly skeptical of the line "they cant be any worse" but unfortunately Labor have destroyed any chance with this weeks sideshow. Angry

Without Crean flushing Rudd out, the Rudd/Gillard dynamic would have sucked most of the oxygen from the election campaign. Our economy is in good shape. Inflation is low, interest rates and mortgage payments have been reduced, household savings are growing, unemployment has been pegged at below 5.5% and labour productivity is growing along with real wages. The current government has brought us through some massive external shocks in very good shape. They are not an incompetent government.

This election can be won by Gillard if she can get the debate back on policy. Burning off Rudd has come at a cost, but long run the Labor Party is in a much better position to shift the fight to winning ground.

The problem is far from Abbott. Gillard is the one that showed because poll numbers are down, you need to replace the leader. You wantthe debate back on policy. Be careful what you wish for, because labors policies are train wrecks.

Labors policies are not train wrecks their leadership team is. If Labor had a Hawke or Keating selling their policies against a women basher like Abbott they would be 70 / 30 in front.

Yeh you keep being sexists as if the woman leading your party doesnt exist and hawke or keating would be better than a woman.

Yeh yeh, we get you lot.

Only a fvckwit would take my comment as being sexist, you lived up to my expectations, again. Roll Eyes

Only a fvckwit would make a comment like you did. you lived up to my expectations, again. Roll Eyes

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Reply #27 - Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 12:43pm

MOTR wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 10:49am:

Without the crippling media speculation of a Rudd challenge, I'm looking forward to a fairer fight.

Let's see how Abbott copes now that Gillard doesn't have one hand tied behind her back.

Thats what you got out of what happened??? fully 1/3 of her front bench have resigned - in disgust - or been fired. Instead of one Rudd on the back bench leaking and destabilising you have 30 of them.

you dont seem to realise that labor is in civil war at a time when they have just put the media offside big time, polls are plummetting and a horror budget about to arrive.

fair fight indeed. All abbott has to do is not get arrested for murder and he is a shoe-in for the lodge.

It is whitlam all over again.

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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Re: Watch out Abbott Reply #29 - Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 12:44pm MOTR wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 12:42pm: Well maybe progs is a lemming. It seems to be his debating style. Yeh you guys are sooo much better. Sooo not lemmings. Give me a f n break.
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