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Re: The new country of whingers?
Reply #15 - Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 7:07pm

so laborites, explain for us the reason for Howard being dumped in 2007? the economy was in vaslty better shape by virtually every measure. Only inflation was a problem and THAT was only because inflation is always a problem in a booming economy. We have low inflation now because we have no boom.

so if it is a country of whingers now then it must have been a far worse mob of whingers in 2007 that got rid of a govt when we were in far better shape. correct?

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Re: The new country of whingers?
Reply #16 - Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 7:24pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 7:07pm:

so laborites, explain for us the reason for Howard being dumped in 2007? the economy was in vaslty better shape by virtually every measure. Only inflation was a problem and THAT was only because inflation is always a problem in a booming economy. We have low inflation now because we have no boom.

so if it is a country of whingers now then it must have been a far worse mob of whingers in 2007 that got rid of a govt when we were in far better shape. correct?

In an expression......children overboard, workchoices, asylum seekers, arrogance....and Kevin Rudd. We will never know how Hayseed would have handled the GFC.

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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Re: The new country of whingers? Reply #17 - Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 9:25pm Oh this thread sounds like the lefties are upset that they have the other side doing what they have done from day dot. Guess the righties have finally had enough of you whining and are getting in the game.
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Re: The new country of whingers?
Reply #18 - Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 10:29pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 7:24pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 7:07pm:

so laborites, explain for us the reason for Howard being dumped in 2007? the economy was in vaslty better shape by virtually every measure. Only inflation was a problem and THAT was only because inflation is always a problem in a booming economy. We have low inflation now because we have no boom.

so if it is a country of whingers now then it must have been a far worse mob of whingers in 2007 that got rid of a govt when we were in far better shape. correct?

In an expression......children overboard, workchoices, asylum seekers, arrogance....and Kevin Rudd. We will never know how Hayseed would have handled the GFC.

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And for those reasons - you believe it was worth the $300B debt and 5 record deficits

stupid is as stupid does and you guys did it in 2007

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Re: The new country of whingers?
Reply #19 - Mar 24^th, 2013 at 5:51am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 4:39pm:

1. The Guardian is left wing. I have never bought a copy of it once. It couldn't even support David Cameron when everyone had deserted Labour.

2. Technical point. Gillard did not beat Rudd in 2010, he didn't stand. She went around his back and shored up votes without telling him.

The Guardian has never been one for checking facts though.
Left wing rag that it is.

If you have never bought a copy of it ever how the heck would you know it was "left wing"?

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Reply #20 - Mar 24^th, 2013 at 5:52am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 4:46pm:

I am pointing out to you a little background on the publisher.

The Guardian hates market capitalism, believes in nationalisation and high socialist benefits.
Hence the bias and attack on the austerity measures and cuts on welfare we are doing in Europe that you see in your article.

When The Times, Daily Mail or Telegraph start to write such pieces then I know you have a point.

I don't agree with the article. It paints Australia in a much better light than it is (a too high dollar by the way is not good for you) and the UK public wouldn't know how incorrect it is.

That is called ad-hominem. Attacking the source instead of the actual argument.

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Re: The new country of whingers?
Reply #21 - Mar 24^th, 2013 at 5:53am

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 7:07pm:

so laborites, explain for us the reason for Howard being dumped in 2007? the economy was in vaslty better shape by virtually every measure. Only inflation was a problem and THAT was only because inflation is always a problem in a booming economy. We have low inflation now because we have no boom.

so if it is a country of whingers now then it must have been a far worse mob of whingers in 2007 that got rid of a govt when we were in far better shape. correct?

Uhh it was propped up by credit and before the meltdown? Duh.

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Re: The new country of whingers?
Reply #22 - Mar 24^th, 2013 at 6:35am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 5:52am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 4:46pm:

I am pointing out to you a little background on the publisher.

The Guardian hates market capitalism, believes in nationalisation and high socialist benefits.
Hence the bias and attack on the austerity measures and cuts on welfare we are doing in Europe that you see in your article.

When The Times, Daily Mail or Telegraph start to write such pieces then I know you have a point.

I don't agree with the article. It paints Australia in a much better light than it is (a too high dollar by the way is not good for you) and the UK public wouldn't know how incorrect it is.

That is called ad-hominem. Attacking the source instead of the actual argument.

SOB

ad hominem is attacking a PERSON you uneducated twit, not an object

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 106977 Melbourne Gender:	Re: The new country of whingers? Reply #23 - Mar 24^th, 2013 at 6:39am Longweekend is guilty of Ad hominem attacks every day on Ozpolitics. he is forgiven namaste
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Re: The new country of whingers?
Reply #24 - Mar 24^th, 2013 at 7:32am

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 6:35am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 5:52am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 4:46pm:

I am pointing out to you a little background on the publisher.

The Guardian hates market capitalism, believes in nationalisation and high socialist benefits.
Hence the bias and attack on the austerity measures and cuts on welfare we are doing in Europe that you see in your article.

When The Times, Daily Mail or Telegraph start to write such pieces then I know you have a point.

I don't agree with the article. It paints Australia in a much better light than it is (a too high dollar by the way is not good for you) and the UK public wouldn't know how incorrect it is.

That is called ad-hominem. Attacking the source instead of the actual argument.

SOB

ad hominem is attacking a PERSON you uneducated twit, not an object

The source not an object. The source is the guardian.

SOB

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Re: The new country of whingers?
Reply #25 - Mar 24^th, 2013 at 7:34am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 7:32am:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 6:35am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 5:52am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 4:46pm:

I am pointing out to you a little background on the publisher.

The Guardian hates market capitalism, believes in nationalisation and high socialist benefits.
Hence the bias and attack on the austerity measures and cuts on welfare we are doing in Europe that you see in your article.

When The Times, Daily Mail or Telegraph start to write such pieces then I know you have a point.

I don't agree with the article. It paints Australia in a much better light than it is (a too high dollar by the way is not good for you) and the UK public wouldn't know how incorrect it is.

That is called ad-hominem. Attacking the source instead of the actual argument.

SOB

ad hominem is attacking a PERSON you uneducated twit, not an object

The source not an object. The source is the guardian.

SOB

???? are you honestly that stupid ????
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Re: The new country of whingers?
Reply #26 - Mar 24^th, 2013 at 7:41am

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 7:34am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 7:32am:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 6:35am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 5:52am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 4:46pm:

I am pointing out to you a little background on the publisher.

The Guardian hates market capitalism, believes in nationalisation and high socialist benefits.
Hence the bias and attack on the austerity measures and cuts on welfare we are doing in Europe that you see in your article.

When The Times, Daily Mail or Telegraph start to write such pieces then I know you have a point.

I don't agree with the article. It paints Australia in a much better light than it is (a too high dollar by the way is not good for you) and the UK public wouldn't know how incorrect it is.

That is called ad-hominem. Attacking the source instead of the actual argument.

SOB

ad hominem is attacking a PERSON you uneducated twit, not an object

The source not an object. The source is the guardian.

SOB

???? are you honestly that stupid ????
Shocked

More so, actually.

Scientists are developing a new stupidity testing meter as Miss Borg took the needle of the current model off the scale.

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Re: The new country of whingers?
Reply #27 - Mar 24^th, 2013 at 8:04am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 4:39pm:

1. The Guardian is left wing. I have never bought a copy of it once. It couldn't even support David Cameron when everyone had deserted Labour.

2. Technical point. Gillard did not beat Rudd in 2010, he didn't stand. She went around his back and shored up votes without telling him.

The Guardian has never been one for checking facts though.
Left wing rag that it is.

Andrei if the only fault you can find in the article is a picky technical one, then the G has done pretty well.

Reading a leftwing paper would do you good, it might broaden your mind.

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Re: The new country of whingers?
Reply #28 - Mar 24^th, 2013 at 9:48am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 7:32am:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 6:35am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 5:52am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 4:46pm:

I am pointing out to you a little background on the publisher.

The Guardian hates market capitalism, believes in nationalisation and high socialist benefits.
Hence the bias and attack on the austerity measures and cuts on welfare we are doing in Europe that you see in your article.

When The Times, Daily Mail or Telegraph start to write such pieces then I know you have a point.

I don't agree with the article. It paints Australia in a much better light than it is (a too high dollar by the way is not good for you) and the UK public wouldn't know how incorrect it is.

That is called ad-hominem. Attacking the source instead of the actual argument.

SOB

ad hominem is attacking a PERSON you uneducated twit, not an object

The source not an object. The source is the guardian.

SOB

Someone didn't do Latin at school.
Ad hominem is formed from the accusative tense of "homo" meaning man in Latin.
Argumentum ad hominem is "to the man or person" and cannot be applied to an object.

Had I specifically attacked the author or columnist then you can apply it.
However my comment related to The Guardian which has no gender and is not a man.

British private school educations.
Load of rubbish eh? Wink

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Re: The new country of whingers?
Reply #29 - Mar 24^th, 2013 at 9:54am

Peter Freedman wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 8:04am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 4:39pm:

1. The Guardian is left wing. I have never bought a copy of it once. It couldn't even support David Cameron when everyone had deserted Labour.

2. Technical point. Gillard did not beat Rudd in 2010, he didn't stand. She went around his back and shored up votes without telling him.

The Guardian has never been one for checking facts though.
Left wing rag that it is.

Andrei if the only fault you can find in the article is a picky technical one, then the G has done pretty well.

Reading a leftwing paper would do you good, it might broaden your mind.

Peter I have read works by Bevan, Chomsky, Foot, Benn etc at university.
I am not without understanding of the Left movement.

If however I am going to be handing over 60p in the morning at a stand The Guardian and its attacks on everything in which I believe, is not getting it.

It's lazy journalism half the time too. Panders to angry Champagne Socialists.

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