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Re: The new country of whingers?
Reply #30 - Mar 24^th, 2013 at 10:48am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 9:48am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 7:32am:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 6:35am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 5:52am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 4:46pm:

I am pointing out to you a little background on the publisher.

The Guardian hates market capitalism, believes in nationalisation and high socialist benefits.
Hence the bias and attack on the austerity measures and cuts on welfare we are doing in Europe that you see in your article.

When The Times, Daily Mail or Telegraph start to write such pieces then I know you have a point.

I don't agree with the article. It paints Australia in a much better light than it is (a too high dollar by the way is not good for you) and the UK public wouldn't know how incorrect it is.

That is called ad-hominem. Attacking the source instead of the actual argument.

SOB

ad hominem is attacking a PERSON you uneducated twit, not an object

The source not an object. The source is the guardian.

SOB

Someone didn't do Latin at school.
Ad hominem is formed from the accusative tense of "homo" meaning man in Latin.
Argumentum ad hominem is "to the man or person" and cannot be applied to an object.

Had I specifically attacked the author or columnist then you can apply it.
However my comment related to The Guardian which has no gender and is not a man.

British private school educations.
Load of rubbish eh? Wink

What? Who cares. Why would i do latin?

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Re: The new country of whingers?
Reply #31 - Mar 24^th, 2013 at 11:48am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 10:48am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 9:48am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 7:32am:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 6:35am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 5:52am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 4:46pm:

I am pointing out to you a little background on the publisher.

The Guardian hates market capitalism, believes in nationalisation and high socialist benefits.
Hence the bias and attack on the austerity measures and cuts on welfare we are doing in Europe that you see in your article.

When The Times, Daily Mail or Telegraph start to write such pieces then I know you have a point.

I don't agree with the article. It paints Australia in a much better light than it is (a too high dollar by the way is not good for you) and the UK public wouldn't know how incorrect it is.

That is called ad-hominem. Attacking the source instead of the actual argument.

SOB

ad hominem is attacking a PERSON you uneducated twit, not an object

The source not an object. The source is the guardian.

SOB

Someone didn't do Latin at school.
Ad hominem is formed from the accusative tense of "homo" meaning man in Latin.
Argumentum ad hominem is "to the man or person" and cannot be applied to an object.

Had I specifically attacked the author or columnist then you can apply it.
However my comment related to The Guardian which has no gender and is not a man.

British private school educations.
Load of rubbish eh? Wink

What? Who cares. Why would i do latin?

SOB

To prevent making an arse of yourself when you try and use it?

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Re: The new country of whingers?
Reply #32 - Mar 24^th, 2013 at 11:57am

Whilst browsing a large, international forum last night, the topic of 'things are going great', arose. It pertained, in that instance, to the US

Majority commenters noted the claim of 'everything's going great' is pushed in the US on the cusp of collapse

Reminded me of Australia, particularly the past few years and thousand media headlines

Sure, things are going great, right?

We believe Swan's falling unemployment/unemployment at approx. 5%, right ?

We need unskilled, non-English speaking 3rd worlders to fill Australia's supposed 'skills shortage' -- right ?

Aussies don't want to work -- right ?

We're on the cusp of a property-boom -- right ?

The mining-boom injects billions into our economy ...
We've never before enjoyed this level of disposable income ...
Rudd, Gillard & Swan guided us successfully through the Global Financial Collapse ...
We're a Lucky Country ...
We're a Rich Country ...

right ?

Gee, those of you who don't share the joy are 'whingers' ...

right ?

Or maybe those characterised as 'whingers' are immune to blatant bull-crap & can see clearly, can utilise the brains God gave them

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Re: The new country of whingers?
Reply #33 - Mar 24^th, 2013 at 2:52pm

PZ547 wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 11:57am:

Whilst browsing a large, international forum last night, the topic of 'things are going great', arose. It pertained, in that instance, to the US

Majority commenters noted the claim of 'everything's going great' is pushed in the US on the cusp of collapse

Reminded me of Australia, particularly the past few years and thousand media headlines

Sure, things are going great, right?

We believe Swan's falling unemployment/unemployment at approx. 5%, right ?

We need unskilled, non-English speaking 3rd worlders to fill Australia's supposed 'skills shortage' -- right ?

Aussies don't want to work -- right ?

We're on the cusp of a property-boom -- right ?

The mining-boom injects billions into our economy ...
We've never before enjoyed this level of disposable income ...
Rudd, Gillard & Swan guided us successfully through the Global Financial Collapse ...
We're a Lucky Country ...
We're a Rich Country ...

right ?

Gee, those of you who don't share the joy are 'whingers' ...

right ?

Or maybe those characterised as 'whingers' are immune to blatant bull-crap & can see clearly, can utilise the brains God gave them

Right !

This would be valid if the issues discussed by mainstream media and our politicians were about skill shortage and property prices, and so on. Instead, we are discussing a $10 carbon tax which has been subsidised and asylum seekers who have come to take our land away from us. That is what defines those who actually think this is significant, in the scope of the global issues right now, as whingers.

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Re: The new country of whingers?
Reply #34 - Mar 24^th, 2013 at 2:58pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 7:07pm:

so laborites, explain for us the reason for Howard being dumped in 2007? the economy was in vaslty better shape by virtually every measure. Only inflation was a problem and THAT was only because inflation is always a problem in a booming economy. We have low inflation now because we have no boom.

so if it is a country of whingers now then it must have been a far worse mob of whingers in 2007 that got rid of a govt when we were in far better shape. correct?

Unfortunately one can't predict what may have happened if Howard was leading us through the GFC. I can't write up what didn't happen for you. BUt what I can say is you're trying to put together a history comparing the state of the economy during completely different times. The point we are talking is about, based on the state of global problems, which Australia has weathered incredibly well in comparison to others, why are we whining about such issues as a $10 carbon tax, which we've been subsidised for, and asylum seekers? It's completely deluded.

Howard and Rudd had a well fought competition. Howard lost because he became overly arrogant. But at the time no one was arguing that "look at how bad we've got it." He was removed because it was time and people asked for a change. The conditions right now are COMPLETELY different where we've actually got people whining about the situation of the economy? WHEN ALL OF EUROPE IS F***KED? WE ARE ARGUING ABOUT ASYLUM SEEKERS? ARE WE FOR FU**EN REAL???????? Point is, the current climate in Australia is not as bad as what is made out, and if we truly believe we are on the cusp of the likes of Greece then we need a big cold shower. And if we truly believe that 34,000 people, in a scope of 42 million +, are coming to take over our lives, then we don't only need a cold shower but a dive in an ice bath.

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Re: The new country of whingers?
Reply #35 - Mar 24^th, 2013 at 3:36pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 9:54am:

Peter Freedman wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 8:04am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 4:39pm:

1. The Guardian is left wing. I have never bought a copy of it once. It couldn't even support David Cameron when everyone had deserted Labour.

2. Technical point. Gillard did not beat Rudd in 2010, he didn't stand. She went around his back and shored up votes without telling him.

The Guardian has never been one for checking facts though.
Left wing rag that it is.

Andrei if the only fault you can find in the article is a picky technical one, then the G has done pretty well.

Reading a leftwing paper would do you good, it might broaden your mind.

Peter I have read works by Bevan, Chomsky, Foot, Benn etc at university.
I am not without understanding of the Left movement.

If however I am going to be handing over 60p in the morning at a stand The Guardian and its attacks on everything in which I believe, is not getting it.

It's lazy journalism half the time too. Panders to angry Champagne Socialists.

Fair enough, that's your call.

I buy the Australian firstly because it is the only serious newspaper available, and secondly because I am interested in the rightwing views it espouses.

There are days when I find the only accurate report in the Oz is the date, but there are others when it does a good job.

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Re: The new country of whingers?
Reply #36 - Mar 24^th, 2013 at 5:26pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 2:58pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 7:07pm:

so laborites, explain for us the reason for Howard being dumped in 2007? the economy was in vaslty better shape by virtually every measure. Only inflation was a problem and THAT was only because inflation is always a problem in a booming economy. We have low inflation now because we have no boom.

so if it is a country of whingers now then it must have been a far worse mob of whingers in 2007 that got rid of a govt when we were in far better shape. correct?

Unfortunately one can't predict what may have happened if Howard was leading us through the GFC. I can't write up what didn't happen for you. BUt what I can say is you're trying to put together a history comparing the state of the economy during completely different times. The point we are talking is about, based on the state of global problems, which Australia has weathered incredibly well in comparison to others, why are we whining about such issues as a $10 carbon tax, which we've been subsidised for, and asylum seekers? It's completely deluded.

Howard and Rudd had a well fought competition. Howard lost because he became overly arrogant. But at the time no one was arguing that "look at how bad we've got it." He was removed because it was time and people asked for a change. The conditions right now are COMPLETELY different where we've actually got people whining about the situation of the economy? WHEN ALL OF EUROPE IS F***KED? WE ARE ARGUING ABOUT ASYLUM SEEKERS? ARE WE FOR FU**EN REAL???????? Point is, the current climate in Australia is not as bad as what is made out, and if we truly believe we are on the cusp of the likes of Greece then we need a big cold shower. And if we truly believe that 34,000 people, in a scope of 42 million +, are coming to take over our lives, then we don't only need a cold shower but a dive in an ice bath.

maybe we dont like being lied to, cheated and stolen from. and it doesnt matter if you are a billionaire or down to your last dollar - no one likes being cheated and gillard and co have done exactly that.

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Re: The new country of whingers?
Reply #37 - Mar 24^th, 2013 at 8:48pm

adelcrow wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 4:46pm:

Its quite simple..with Gillard and Abbott we are scraping the bottom of the barrel so its no wonder everyone is fed up.

We can't be "scraping the bottom of the barrel" (so to speak) if we were left unscathed by the global financial crisis. I don't think it's a matter of having the worst politicians leading the two major parties, but more a case of it being difficult to judge their competency when our country is doing much better than many other developed ones.

The main problem with both Gillard and Abbott is they keep telling us we need reform when what they are both proposing don't improve anything. Abbott nitpicks everything and Gillard doesn't know how to keep a good reputation. She keeps foolishly making promises she can't keep.

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Re: The new country of whingers?
Reply #38 - Mar 25^th, 2013 at 6:08am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 11:48am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 10:48am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 9:48am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 7:32am:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 6:35am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 5:52am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 4:46pm:

I am pointing out to you a little background on the publisher.

The Guardian hates market capitalism, believes in nationalisation and high socialist benefits.
Hence the bias and attack on the austerity measures and cuts on welfare we are doing in Europe that you see in your article.

When The Times, Daily Mail or Telegraph start to write such pieces then I know you have a point.

I don't agree with the article. It paints Australia in a much better light than it is (a too high dollar by the way is not good for you) and the UK public wouldn't know how incorrect it is.

That is called ad-hominem. Attacking the source instead of the actual argument.

SOB

ad hominem is attacking a PERSON you uneducated twit, not an object

The source not an object. The source is the guardian.

SOB

Someone didn't do Latin at school.
Ad hominem is formed from the accusative tense of "homo" meaning man in Latin.
Argumentum ad hominem is "to the man or person" and cannot be applied to an object.

Had I specifically attacked the author or columnist then you can apply it.
However my comment related to The Guardian which has no gender and is not a man.

British private school educations.
Load of rubbish eh? Wink

What? Who cares. Why would i do latin?

SOB

To prevent making an arse of yourself when you try and use it?

I speak english not latin. Go to a latin forum to blah on.

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Re: The new country of whingers?
Reply #39 - Mar 25^th, 2013 at 6:57am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 6:08am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 11:48am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 10:48am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 9:48am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 7:32am:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 6:35am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 5:52am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 4:46pm:

I am pointing out to you a little background on the publisher.

The Guardian hates market capitalism, believes in nationalisation and high socialist benefits.
Hence the bias and attack on the austerity measures and cuts on welfare we are doing in Europe that you see in your article.

When The Times, Daily Mail or Telegraph start to write such pieces then I know you have a point.

I don't agree with the article. It paints Australia in a much better light than it is (a too high dollar by the way is not good for you) and the UK public wouldn't know how incorrect it is.

That is called ad-hominem. Attacking the source instead of the actual argument.

SOB

ad hominem is attacking a PERSON you uneducated twit, not an object

The source not an object. The source is the guardian.

SOB

Someone didn't do Latin at school.
Ad hominem is formed from the accusative tense of "homo" meaning man in Latin.
Argumentum ad hominem is "to the man or person" and cannot be applied to an object.

Had I specifically attacked the author or columnist then you can apply it.
However my comment related to The Guardian which has no gender and is not a man.

British private school educations.
Load of rubbish eh? Wink

What? Who cares. Why would i do latin?

SOB

To prevent making an arse of yourself when you try and use it?

I speak english not latin. Go to a latin forum to blah on.

SOB

But Miss Borg you used Latin.

Quote:

That is called ad-hominem. Attacking the source instead of the actual argument.

SOB

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Re: The new country of whingers?
Reply #40 - Mar 25^th, 2013 at 7:04am

KJT1981 wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 6:57am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 6:08am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 11:48am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 10:48am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 9:48am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 7:32am:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 6:35am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 5:52am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 4:46pm:

I am pointing out to you a little background on the publisher.

The Guardian hates market capitalism, believes in nationalisation and high socialist benefits.
Hence the bias and attack on the austerity measures and cuts on welfare we are doing in Europe that you see in your article.

When The Times, Daily Mail or Telegraph start to write such pieces then I know you have a point.

I don't agree with the article. It paints Australia in a much better light than it is (a too high dollar by the way is not good for you) and the UK public wouldn't know how incorrect it is.

That is called ad-hominem. Attacking the source instead of the actual argument.

SOB

ad hominem is attacking a PERSON you uneducated twit, not an object

The source not an object. The source is the guardian.

SOB

Someone didn't do Latin at school.
Ad hominem is formed from the accusative tense of "homo" meaning man in Latin.
Argumentum ad hominem is "to the man or person" and cannot be applied to an object.

Had I specifically attacked the author or columnist then you can apply it.
However my comment related to The Guardian which has no gender and is not a man.

British private school educations.
Load of rubbish eh? Wink

What? Who cares. Why would i do latin?

SOB

To prevent making an arse of yourself when you try and use it?

I speak english not latin. Go to a latin forum to blah on.

SOB

But Miss Borg you used Latin.

Quote:

That is called ad-hominem. Attacking the source instead of the actual argument.

SOB

So what? English as adopted that (and many other) word.

SOB

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Re: The new country of whingers?
Reply #41 - Mar 25^th, 2013 at 7:09am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 7:04am:

KJT1981 wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 6:57am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 6:08am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 11:48am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 10:48am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 9:48am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 7:32am:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 6:35am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 5:52am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 4:46pm:

I am pointing out to you a little background on the publisher.

The Guardian hates market capitalism, believes in nationalisation and high socialist benefits.
Hence the bias and attack on the austerity measures and cuts on welfare we are doing in Europe that you see in your article.

When The Times, Daily Mail or Telegraph start to write such pieces then I know you have a point.

I don't agree with the article. It paints Australia in a much better light than it is (a too high dollar by the way is not good for you) and the UK public wouldn't know how incorrect it is.

That is called ad-hominem. Attacking the source instead of the actual argument.

SOB

ad hominem is attacking a PERSON you uneducated twit, not an object

The source not an object. The source is the guardian.

SOB

Someone didn't do Latin at school.
Ad hominem is formed from the accusative tense of "homo" meaning man in Latin.
Argumentum ad hominem is "to the man or person" and cannot be applied to an object.

Had I specifically attacked the author or columnist then you can apply it.
However my comment related to The Guardian which has no gender and is not a man.

British private school educations.
Load of rubbish eh? Wink

What? Who cares. Why would i do latin?

SOB

To prevent making an arse of yourself when you try and use it?

I speak english not latin. Go to a latin forum to blah on.

SOB

But Miss Borg you used Latin.

Quote:

That is called ad-hominem. Attacking the source instead of the actual argument.

SOB

So what? English as adopted that (and many other) word.

SOB

It is still friggen Latin idiot.

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Re: The new country of whingers?
Reply #42 - Mar 25^th, 2013 at 8:11am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 6:08am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 11:48am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 10:48am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 9:48am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 7:32am:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 6:35am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 5:52am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 4:46pm:

I am pointing out to you a little background on the publisher.

The Guardian hates market capitalism, believes in nationalisation and high socialist benefits.
Hence the bias and attack on the austerity measures and cuts on welfare we are doing in Europe that you see in your article.

When The Times, Daily Mail or Telegraph start to write such pieces then I know you have a point.

I don't agree with the article. It paints Australia in a much better light than it is (a too high dollar by the way is not good for you) and the UK public wouldn't know how incorrect it is.

That is called ad-hominem. Attacking the source instead of the actual argument.

SOB

ad hominem is attacking a PERSON you uneducated twit, not an object

The source not an object. The source is the guardian.

SOB

Someone didn't do Latin at school.
Ad hominem is formed from the accusative tense of "homo" meaning man in Latin.
Argumentum ad hominem is "to the man or person" and cannot be applied to an object.

Had I specifically attacked the author or columnist then you can apply it.
However my comment related to The Guardian which has no gender and is not a man.

British private school educations.
Load of rubbish eh? Wink

What? Who cares. Why would i do latin?

SOB

To prevent making an arse of yourself when you try and use it?

I speak english not latin. Go to a latin forum to blah on.

SOB

then dont use it since you dont understand it. That is the point of explaining to you your misuse of a LATIN TERM.

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Re: The new country of whingers?
Reply #43 - Mar 25^th, 2013 at 8:13am

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 5:26pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 2:58pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 7:07pm:

so laborites, explain for us the reason for Howard being dumped in 2007? the economy was in vaslty better shape by virtually every measure. Only inflation was a problem and THAT was only because inflation is always a problem in a booming economy. We have low inflation now because we have no boom.

so if it is a country of whingers now then it must have been a far worse mob of whingers in 2007 that got rid of a govt when we were in far better shape. correct?

Unfortunately one can't predict what may have happened if Howard was leading us through the GFC. I can't write up what didn't happen for you. BUt what I can say is you're trying to put together a history comparing the state of the economy during completely different times. The point we are talking is about, based on the state of global problems, which Australia has weathered incredibly well in comparison to others, why are we whining about such issues as a $10 carbon tax, which we've been subsidised for, and asylum seekers? It's completely deluded.

Howard and Rudd had a well fought competition. Howard lost because he became overly arrogant. But at the time no one was arguing that "look at how bad we've got it." He was removed because it was time and people asked for a change. The conditions right now are COMPLETELY different where we've actually got people whining about the situation of the economy? WHEN ALL OF EUROPE IS F***KED? WE ARE ARGUING ABOUT ASYLUM SEEKERS? ARE WE FOR FU**EN REAL???????? Point is, the current climate in Australia is not as bad as what is made out, and if we truly believe we are on the cusp of the likes of Greece then we need a big cold shower. And if we truly believe that 34,000 people, in a scope of 42 million +, are coming to take over our lives, then we don't only need a cold shower but a dive in an ice bath.

maybe we dont like being lied to, cheated and stolen from. and it doesnt matter if you are a billionaire or down to your last dollar - no one likes being cheated and gillard and co have done exactly that.

Who cheated you out of what? $10? You got the tax break, so get over it. You're basically proving the opinion right.

As for lying, these types of standards you try to represent would be admirable, if you ACTUALLY held to them.

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Re: The new country of whingers?
Reply #44 - Mar 25^th, 2013 at 8:28am

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 8:11am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 6:08am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 11:48am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 10:48am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 9:48am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 7:32am:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 6:35am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 5:52am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 4:46pm:

I am pointing out to you a little background on the publisher.

The Guardian hates market capitalism, believes in nationalisation and high socialist benefits.
Hence the bias and attack on the austerity measures and cuts on welfare we are doing in Europe that you see in your article.

When The Times, Daily Mail or Telegraph start to write such pieces then I know you have a point.

I don't agree with the article. It paints Australia in a much better light than it is (a too high dollar by the way is not good for you) and the UK public wouldn't know how incorrect it is.

That is called ad-hominem. Attacking the source instead of the actual argument.

SOB

ad hominem is attacking a PERSON you uneducated twit, not an object

The source not an object. The source is the guardian.

SOB

Someone didn't do Latin at school.
Ad hominem is formed from the accusative tense of "homo" meaning man in Latin.
Argumentum ad hominem is "to the man or person" and cannot be applied to an object.

Had I specifically attacked the author or columnist then you can apply it.
However my comment related to The Guardian which has no gender and is not a man.

British private school educations.
Load of rubbish eh? Wink

What? Who cares. Why would i do latin?

SOB

To prevent making an arse of yourself when you try and use it?

I speak english not latin. Go to a latin forum to blah on.

SOB

then dont use it since you dont understand it. That is the point of explaining to you your misuse of a LATIN TERM.

I didnt misuse it - its your favourite thing to do in this forum.

SOB

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