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Peter Freedman Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5275 Wellington Gender:	How will Abbott stop the boats? Mar 24^th, 2013 at 11:37am I have asked this question numerous times. Those who claim the boats will stop under a Liberal government have ignored it. Well, red baron et al, what's the answer?
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Re: How will Abbott stop the boats?
Reply #1 - Mar 24^th, 2013 at 11:39am

There is no explaination needed. As long as liberals dont say they will break a policy that works.

All liberals have to say is that they will stop the boats and that is good enough. Labor are not stopping them, so the party, liberals, who had a policy that worked, can have another go.

Labor who broke a working policy of stopping the boats and have not slowed the boats down at all, can go to hell.

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Reply #2 - Mar 24^th, 2013 at 11:49am

Australia's fake politicians (that includes the fake PMs) don't make decisions. They receive instructions

eg: Australia made a grab for 'inactive' bank accounts. Two weeks later, UK did same. Australia commenced argy-bargy re: media. Scotland and some other slave nation did same

We have a One World Government, for those who were too entranced by scripted, factional skirmishes to notice. Our Prime Ministers are stooges, actors. They do not 'decide' a thing. Their 'policies' are delivered to them. Their 'job' is to mouth them, unleash them on the paying Aussie (or Canadian, UK, etc.) public

Therefore, whether delivered by Gillard, Rudd, Abbott, whomever, the script is written by those who have NO concern for the Aussie (pick a name) population

We should not be paying for this farce and we most certainly should not be paying these very poor actors for the duration of their disgusting, pointless lives

Instead, re: the script that has been destroying our lives and futures, we should instead stand shoulder to shoulder, screaming, 'Author ! Author ! '

How will Abbott stop the boats?

First, you need to ask Abbott's owners if THEY intend for the boats to stop. And it's a pretty sure guess their response will be a slimy grin to indicate 'no' -- based on their past performance

Ask if israel intends to open itself to asylum-seekers, candidates for phony 'skills shortage', Africans, muslims etc

you will get the same slimy grin to indicate 'no'

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Reply #3 - Mar 24^th, 2013 at 11:55am

Quite simple Peter; the John Howard solution and the way New Zealand is handling it with aplomb, you should relate to that.

The NZ P.M. said, "you're not coming here!"

End of story, if they turn up, refuel, give them provisions then take the f....out of Australian waters courtesy of the R.A.N.

Watch the river of boats dry up.

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Infarction Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 509	Re: How will Abbott stop the boats? Reply #4 - Mar 24^th, 2013 at 12:12pm Of course we do have some international obligations to consider, and what we have now is very similar to the pacific solution, but don't let that stop your rantings.
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Re: How will Abbott stop the boats?
Reply #5 - Mar 24^th, 2013 at 12:13pm

red baron wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 11:55am:

Quite simple Peter; the John Howard solution and the way New Zealand is handling it with aplomb, you should relate to that.

The NZ P.M. said, "you're not coming here!"

End of story, if they turn up, refuel, give them provisions then take the f....out of Australian waters courtesy of the R.A.N.

Watch the river of boats dry up.

Millions hope you're right about that

They also doubt it

No reflection on you, RB

But the agenda is for no primarily white, Christian nation to remain standing

They said, only a few years ago, that they would put ' 50 million blacks into Europe'

I thought they'd be stopped. At worst, I thought it would take them 50 or more years

Instead, they managed it -- nay, exceeded that figure -- in just a few years

Muslims are so confident, they floated Sharia Law for Australia only a few months ago. Sure, they got prematurely cocky. They jumped the gun. They've been told to quieten down. Their agenda will be fulfilled in the near future. Abbott is already clued-in, I'm sure. As is anyone who'll be placed in the joke-office of Aussie Prime Minister

What I will say is this: our forebears fought for nought. They died for nought. The future -- our future -- was what they died for. Those determining Australia's future created those phony wars as they've created many more since. Therefore, anyone who takes up a gun to kill and die for this nation is a fool. Take up your guns, certainly, as a matter of honour. But the Australia we knew and saluted on 'parade' at school is gone -- was sold out long ago. And Abbott is just a tiny part of the sell-out, as were Hawke, Keating, Howard and all the lazy, useless bastards chewing on our money in their role as 'politicians'

There's only been one living, breathing, human Aussie politician in the past several decades in my opinion, and her name is Julia Irwin

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Infarction Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 509	Re: How will Abbott stop the boats? Reply #6 - Mar 24^th, 2013 at 12:17pm Hahaha A small group of Muslims talked about a version of sharia. That was about the extent of it.
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Re: How will Abbott stop the boats?
Reply #7 - Mar 24^th, 2013 at 12:21pm

Israel is actually a very good example on border control.
If they are intercepted outside of Israeli territory then they are assessed and simply turned around.

Also when Israel does grant permits to non-Jews, it is for a finite period of time until their country is deemed stable again.
Last year Israel forcibly returned 300 East Africans because their area was no longer a war zone.

Australia must not allow people to stay, hence it should only grant temporary visas with no possibility of permanent residence. Like Israel does.

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Infarction Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 509	Re: How will Abbott stop the boats? Reply #8 - Mar 24^th, 2013 at 12:24pm Why can't they stay?
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Re: How will Abbott stop the boats?
Reply #9 - Mar 24^th, 2013 at 12:25pm

red baron wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 11:55am:

Quite simple Peter; the John Howard solution and the way New Zealand is handling it with aplomb, you should relate to that.

The NZ P.M. said, "you're not coming here!"

End of story, if they turn up, refuel, give them provisions then take the f....out of Australian waters courtesy of the R.A.N.

Watch the river of boats dry up.

But the asylum seekers do not magically disappear.
They are still there.
And many will die - as they did when John Howard "stopped the boats":

The SIEV-X incident occurred during the 2001 Australian Federal election campaign....The Howard Government had issued instructions to the Royal Australian Navy and the Australian Federal Police (AFP) to prevent any refugees from reaching Australia via boat...It sank in international waters on 19 October 2001, just south of the Indonesian island of Java, killing 353 people.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIEV_X

Given that the vast majority of asylum seekers are eventually granted asylum - we can reasonably assume that this was 353 more innocent people killed. All to "stop the boats".

Besides - I think you will find that the Liberal Party would never endorse such a callous policy. After all - wasn't Joe Hockey in tears in Parliament at the thought of flying asylum seekers to Malaysia?

Mr Hockey appeared close to tears and his voice wavered as he told the lower house that he wouldn't allow young asylum-seeker children to be sent to Malaysia.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/hockey-reveals-refugee-heartache/...

but you seem to think he would be in favour of "refuel, give them provisions then take the f....out of Australian waters courtesy of the R.A.N."?!?!?. Are you saying that the Liberal Party could possibly be a bunch of lying hypocrites?

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Reply #10 - Mar 24^th, 2013 at 12:27pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 12:21pm:

Israel is actually a very good example on border control.
If they are intercepted outside of Israeli territory then they are assessed and simply turned around.

Also when Israel does grant permits to non-Jews, it is for a finite period of time until their country is deemed stable again.
Last year Israel forcibly returned 300 East Africans because their area was no longer a war zone.

Australia must not allow people to stay, hence it should only grant temporary visas with no possibility of permanent residence. Like Israel does.

Yeah right. I really don't think Australia needs to get hints about human rights from terrorist states like Israel.

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Re: How will Abbott stop the boats?
Reply #11 - Mar 24^th, 2013 at 12:30pm

PZ547 wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 12:13pm:

red baron wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 11:55am:

Quite simple Peter; the John Howard solution and the way New Zealand is handling it with aplomb, you should relate to that.

The NZ P.M. said, "you're not coming here!"

End of story, if they turn up, refuel, give them provisions then take the f....out of Australian waters courtesy of the R.A.N.

Watch the river of boats dry up.

Millions hope you're right about that

They also doubt it

No reflection on you, RB

But the agenda is for no primarily white, Christian nation to remain standing

They said, only a few years ago, that they would put ' 50 million blacks into Europe'

I thought they'd be stopped. At worst, I thought it would take them 50 or more years

Instead, they managed it -- nay, exceeded that figure -- in just a few years

Muslims are so confident, they floated Sharia Law for Australia only a few months ago. Sure, they got prematurely cocky. They jumped the gun. They've been told to quieten down. Their agenda will be fulfilled in the near future. Abbott is already clued-in, I'm sure. As is anyone who'll be placed in the joke-office of Aussie Prime Minister

What I will say is this: our forebears fought for nought. They died for nought. The future -- our future -- was what they died for. Those determining Australia's future created those phony wars as they've created many more since. Therefore, anyone who takes up a gun to kill and die for this nation is a fool. Take up your guns, certainly, as a matter of honour. But the Australia we knew and saluted on 'parade' at school is gone -- was sold out long ago. And Abbott is just a tiny part of the sell-out, as were Hawke, Keating, Howard and all the lazy, useless bastards chewing on our money in their role as 'politicians'

There's only been one living, breathing, human Aussie politician in the past several decades in my opinion, and her name is Julia Irwin

Who is Julia Irwin?

Anyway, don't prejudge Abbott or us, not even Gillard who makes her own errors capably.

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Re: How will Abbott stop the boats?
Reply #12 - Mar 24^th, 2013 at 12:31pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 12:27pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 12:21pm:

Israel is actually a very good example on border control.
If they are intercepted outside of Israeli territory then they are assessed and simply turned around.

Also when Israel does grant permits to non-Jews, it is for a finite period of time until their country is deemed stable again.
Last year Israel forcibly returned 300 East Africans because their area was no longer a war zone.

Australia must not allow people to stay, hence it should only grant temporary visas with no possibility of permanent residence. Like Israel does.

Yeah right. I really don't think Australia needs to get hints about human rights from terrorist states like Israel.

Terrorist state.

Someone's swallowed the propaganda.

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Reply #13 - Mar 24^th, 2013 at 12:36pm

Peter Freedman wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 11:37am:

I have asked this question numerous times. Those who claim the boats will stop under a Liberal government have ignored it.

Well, red baron et al, what's the answer?

at 55/45 2PP he can tell the Aust Navy to lock and load baby Grin

before we give you the answer - lefties are great at acknowledging faults eg Sorry to the Aborigines and Sorry to the forced adoption

So lefties should first acknowledge the 34,000 addition illegals is Labor's fault

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Re: How will Abbott stop the boats?
Reply #14 - Mar 24^th, 2013 at 12:37pm

red baron wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 11:55am:

Quite simple Peter; the John Howard solution and the way New Zealand is handling it with aplomb, you should relate to that.

The NZ P.M. said, "you're not coming here!"

End of story, if they turn up, refuel, give them provisions then take the f....out of Australian waters courtesy of the R.A.N.

Watch the river of boats dry up.

Well, red, it took a long time for you to come up with a simplistic response.

Even the Navy knows this "solution" won't work. They will not turn a boat around if it puts people's lives in danger. And it will.

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