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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58828 Here Gender:	Re: Why did illegal boat numbers increase under Labor? Reply #105 - Mar 25^th, 2013 at 7:06pm A new training scheme produced more Illegal boat builders?
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Re: Why did illegal boat numbers increase under Labor?
Reply #106 - Mar 25^th, 2013 at 7:25pm

Dnarever wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 7:06pm:

A new training scheme produced more Illegal boat builders?

maybe it was all that foreign aid we send to Indo .... they use it to train new boat builders, they in turn build illegal boats that then make there way bach here ... maybe if we increase funding to indo they can learn to build legal boats????

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Reply #107 - Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:47pm

Infarction wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 7:02pm:

So it's confirmed.

Maqqa has absolutely no clue what the differences, if any, actually are except for tpv's which are no deterrent based on the fact the very large majority are not sent home.

It's strange though, one would think that with the amount of months you have been banging on about this issue, you would have at least educated yourself on the issue maqqa.

You now officially have no credibility on this issue.

Well done.

How does me knowing or not knowing change the fact the PS worked and Houston Recommendation didn't

Does me knowing or not knowing somehow influence the outcome of a bad Labor policy?

So you want to focus the attention on the point of me knowing rather than focus on bad policies by the ALP? Grin

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Re: Why did illegal boat numbers increase under Labor?
Reply #108 - Mar 25^th, 2013 at 10:50pm

red baron wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 6:00pm:

Tony Abbott has stated, "I will stop the boats."

Tony Abbott WILL stop the boats....end of story and end of problem. Too bad about the 30,000 Gillard let through the gate.

Red, your faith in Abbott is childlike and unquestioning.

I thought you had more intelligence than that.

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Re: Why did illegal boat numbers increase under Labor?
Reply #109 - Mar 25^th, 2013 at 10:55pm

Peter Freedman wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 10:50pm:

red baron wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 6:00pm:

Tony Abbott has stated, "I will stop the boats."

Tony Abbott WILL stop the boats....end of story and end of problem. Too bad about the 30,000 Gillard let through the gate.

Red, your faith in Abbott is childlike and unquestioning.

I thought you had more intelligence than that.

whatever gave you that impression? I thought you had more intelligence than that.

(sorry Pete, I couldn't resist)

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58828 Here Gender:	Re: Why did illegal boat numbers increase under Labor? Reply #110 - Mar 25^th, 2013 at 11:22pm Was the ship later called the Lord Sandwich the first Illegal boat?
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Re: Why did illegal boat numbers increase under Labor?
Reply #111 - Mar 26^th, 2013 at 2:52am

John Smith wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 10:55pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 10:50pm:

red baron wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 6:00pm:

Tony Abbott has stated, "I will stop the boats."

Tony Abbott WILL stop the boats....end of story and end of problem. Too bad about the 30,000 Gillard let through the gate.

Red, your faith in Abbott is childlike and unquestioning.

I thought you had more intelligence than that.

whatever gave you that impression? I thought you had more intelligence than that.

(sorry Pete, I couldn't resist)

No problem, I like it..........

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Re: Why did illegal boat numbers increase under Labor?
Reply #112 - Mar 26^th, 2013 at 5:43am

Maqqa wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:47pm:

Infarction wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 7:02pm:

So it's confirmed.

Maqqa has absolutely no clue what the differences, if any, actually are except for tpv's which are no deterrent based on the fact the very large majority are not sent home.

It's strange though, one would think that with the amount of months you have been banging on about this issue, you would have at least educated yourself on the issue maqqa.

You now officially have no credibility on this issue.

Well done.

How does me knowing or not knowing change the fact the PS worked and Houston Recommendation didn't

Does me knowing or not knowing somehow influence the outcome of a bad Labor policy?

So you want to focus the attention on the point of me knowing rather than focus on bad policies by the ALP? Grin

Come on now maqqa, don't get yourself all upset that you have been shown to have no clue about one of your favourite topics, other than what the Libs tell you that you should know, think and say on the topic.

Go and actually educate yourself on the issue and then come back and try again.

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Re: Why did illegal boat numbers increase under Labor?
Reply #113 - Mar 26^th, 2013 at 6:07am

Here's a PLAN too do something to stop the boats.

There is a island at the bottom of indonesia, australian loves this place its call Bali.

Buildt the imigration and detension centre their, Invade INDONESIA AND TAKE THAT ISLAND.

Then we Australia can conrtrol the flow into this contry by legal means.

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Re: Why did illegal boat numbers increase under Labor?
Reply #114 - Mar 26^th, 2013 at 7:05am

Infarction wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 7:02pm:

Maqqa has absolutely no clue what the differences, if any, actually are except for tpv's which are no deterrent based on the fact the very large majority are not sent home.

sure Maqqa knows - he knows that one was called the pacific solution and the other was not. Thats all he needs to know - apparently.

Maqqa wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:47pm:

How does me knowing or not knowing change the fact the PS worked and Houston Recommendation didn't

Does me knowing or not knowing somehow influence the outcome of a bad Labor policy?

Because if you don't know why something seems to "work", you are falling for a classic fallacy of false cause. As any scientist worth his salt will tell you, association does not mean causation. If you have no idea about why two things have an association, you have absolutely no leg to stand on in saying one causes the other.

Now as it so happens in this case, I've already explained to you why the boats stopped - and it wasn't because of the pacific solution. In fact we know that 50% of the pacific solution (TPVs) did the exact opposite of stopping the boats.

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Re: Why did illegal boat numbers increase under Labor?
Reply #115 - Mar 26^th, 2013 at 7:47am

dingo2 wrote on Mar 26^th, 2013 at 6:07am:

Invade INDONESIA AND TAKE THAT ISLAND

I can see that ending well ... you want to invade a country of 256 million? you won't need to worry about asylum seekers coming to Aus, you'll end up the asylum seeker trying to run from Aus.. you'd better save one of those boats just in case.

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Re: Why did illegal boat numbers increase under Labor?
Reply #116 - Mar 26^th, 2013 at 9:17am

John Smith wrote on Mar 26^th, 2013 at 7:47am:

dingo2 wrote on Mar 26^th, 2013 at 6:07am:

Invade INDONESIA AND TAKE THAT ISLAND

I can see that ending well ... you want to invade a country of 256 million? you won't need to worry about asylum seekers coming to Aus, you'll end up the asylum seeker trying to run from Aus.. you'd better save one of those boats just in case.

......... oh happy day....

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Re: Why did illegal boat numbers increase under Labor?
Reply #117 - Mar 26^th, 2013 at 9:23am

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 26^th, 2013 at 7:05am:

Maqqa wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:47pm:

How does me knowing or not knowing change the fact the PS worked and Houston Recommendation didn't

Does me knowing or not knowing somehow influence the outcome of a bad Labor policy?

Because if you don't know why something seems to "work", you are falling for a classic fallacy of false cause. As any scientist worth his salt will tell you, association does not mean causation. If you have no idea about why two things have an association, you have absolutely no leg to stand on in saying one causes the other.

There are 10 years worth of data supporting my view

How does my personal understanding of the intricate detail of a policy change the 10 years of data?

Labor failed!!

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Reply #118 - Mar 26^th, 2013 at 9:25am

Infarction wrote on Mar 26^th, 2013 at 5:43am:

Come on now maqqa, don't get yourself all upset that you have been shown to have no clue about one of your favourite topics, other than what the Libs tell you that you should know, think and say on the topic.

Go and actually educate yourself on the issue and then come back and try again.

Just stringing you out infrac

Whether you think I know about it or not does not change the fact that Labor's incompetence is on show

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Re: Why did illegal boat numbers increase under Labor?
Reply #119 - Mar 26^th, 2013 at 9:47am

Maqqa wrote on Mar 26^th, 2013 at 9:25am:

Infarction wrote on Mar 26^th, 2013 at 5:43am:

Come on now maqqa, don't get yourself all upset that you have been shown to have no clue about one of your favourite topics, other than what the Libs tell you that you should know, think and say on the topic.

Go and actually educate yourself on the issue and then come back and try again.

Just stringing you out infrac

Whether you think I know about it or not does not change the fact that Labor's incompetence is on show

as is yours .....

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