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Re: Global warming accelerating. Abbott squibs it.
Reply #30 - Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:17pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:12pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:02pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 8:52pm:

MOTR wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 8:51pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 8:48pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 8:38pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 8:35pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 8:28pm:

Wait....Progressiveslol told me that there had been no warming for 15 years!!!! He read it in a column in the Daily Mail! And it was confirmed by Andrew Bolt no less!!!!

Are you telling us that Progs and his tabloid columnist source are wrong!?!?!?!?

Goodness me!!!!

... it was firstly confirmed by a multitude of eminent climate scientists

Was it!!!!

I am calling you a liar!!

Why don't you show some evidence and prove me wrong.

Come on liar.

Lets see the "multitude of eminent climate scientists " who say that there has been no global warming for 15 years.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 8:35pm:

- many of whom had previously been passionately for global warming but now have to eat their previous words on this subject!

Come on liar.

Lets see the "multitude of eminent climate scientists " who say that there has been no global warming for 15 years.

Show us.

Cut and paste

Show us.

I'll take your apology now...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2294560/The-great-green-1-The-hard-proof...

How does posting the same propaganda prove your point.

An apology usually contains the words "I'm sorry" somewhere in there...

Where are the "multitude of eminent climate scientists " who say that there has been no global warming for 15 years Liar

Are you going to show us?

Or just tell a lie and run away?

Do these "multitude of eminent climate scientists " you have made up explain how global warming could have stopped when:

- the oceans continue to warm
- sea levels continue to rise
- global glacial mass balance continues to decrease
- the artcic ice cap continues to decrease...

Do they?

Or is a silly column by David Rose all you have?
A silly column by David Rose that does not quote one single scientists as saying that there has been no global warming for 15 years

LIAR.

Okay, dumba$$ I'll play along with you, my dim-witted forumite. Here's some quotes from climate change professors/scientists...

"Global surface temperatures have not risen in 15 years. They make the high estimates unlikely" - Piers Forster, Climate Change Professor at Leeds University

"This changes everything. Global warming should no longer be the main determinant of economic or energy policy" - Dr David Whitehouse of the Global Warming Policy Foundation

"Climate models are running too hot... current flat trend may continue for two more decades" - Professor Judith Curry of the Georgia Institute of Technology

Yes LIAR.

I have already addressed those quotes:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 8:59pm:

I see:
Myles Allen, Oxford University’s Professor of Geosystem Science, said that until recently he believed the world might be on course for a catastrophic temperature rise of more than five degrees this century.
But he now says: ‘The odds have come down,’ – adding that warming is likely to be significantly lower.
Prof Allen says higher estimates are now ‘looking iffy’.
Fair enough. He is entitled to his opinion. He ceratinly did not imply that there has been no global warming for 15 years.

I see:
Piers Forster, Climate Change Professor at Leeds University, said: ‘The fact that global surface temperatures haven’t risen in the last 15 years, combined with good knowledge of the terms changing climate, make the high estimates unlikely.’

Yes - there is a lot more to the planet's heat content than surface temperature. He ceratinly did not imply that there has been no global warming for 15 years.

I see:
Professor Judith Curry, head of climate science at the prestigious Georgia Institute of Technology, said: ‘The models are running too hot. The flat trend in global surface temperatures may continue for another decade or two.’
Yes - there is a lot more to the planet's heat content than surface temperature. She ceratinly did not imply that there has been no global warming for 15 years.

We know that you have been sucked in and fooled by a silly column in a tabloid that you didn't understand. What I want to know is why you decided to start telling lies.

We are still waiting to see these "multitude of eminent climate scientists " who say that there has been no global warming for 15 years.

Come on Liar. Show us.

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Re: Global warming accelerating. Abbott squibs it.
Reply #32 - Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:20pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:17pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:12pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:02pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 8:52pm:

MOTR wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 8:51pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 8:48pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 8:38pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 8:35pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 8:28pm:

Wait....Progressiveslol told me that there had been no warming for 15 years!!!! He read it in a column in the Daily Mail! And it was confirmed by Andrew Bolt no less!!!!

Are you telling us that Progs and his tabloid columnist source are wrong!?!?!?!?

Goodness me!!!!

... it was firstly confirmed by a multitude of eminent climate scientists

Was it!!!!

I am calling you a liar!!

Why don't you show some evidence and prove me wrong.

Come on liar.

Lets see the "multitude of eminent climate scientists " who say that there has been no global warming for 15 years.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 8:35pm:

- many of whom had previously been passionately for global warming but now have to eat their previous words on this subject!

Come on liar.

Lets see the "multitude of eminent climate scientists " who say that there has been no global warming for 15 years.

Show us.

Cut and paste

Show us.

I'll take your apology now...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2294560/The-great-green-1-The-hard-proof...

How does posting the same propaganda prove your point.

An apology usually contains the words "I'm sorry" somewhere in there...

Where are the "multitude of eminent climate scientists " who say that there has been no global warming for 15 years Liar

Are you going to show us?

Or just tell a lie and run away?

Do these "multitude of eminent climate scientists " you have made up explain how global warming could have stopped when:

- the oceans continue to warm
- sea levels continue to rise
- global glacial mass balance continues to decrease
- the artcic ice cap continues to decrease...

Do they?

Or is a silly column by David Rose all you have?
A silly column by David Rose that does not quote one single scientists as saying that there has been no global warming for 15 years

LIAR.

Okay, dumba$$ I'll play along with you, my dim-witted forumite. Here's some quotes from climate change professors/scientists...

"Global surface temperatures have not risen in 15 years. They make the high estimates unlikely" - Piers Forster, Climate Change Professor at Leeds University

"This changes everything. Global warming should no longer be the main determinant of economic or energy policy" - Dr David Whitehouse of the Global Warming Policy Foundation

"Climate models are running too hot... current flat trend may continue for two more decades" - Professor Judith Curry of the Georgia Institute of Technology

Yes LIAR.

I have already addressed those quotes:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 8:59pm:

I see:
Myles Allen, Oxford University’s Professor of Geosystem Science, said that until recently he believed the world might be on course for a catastrophic temperature rise of more than five degrees this century.
But he now says: ‘The odds have come down,’ – adding that warming is likely to be significantly lower.
Prof Allen says higher estimates are now ‘looking iffy’.
Fair enough. He is entitled to his opinion. He ceratinly did not imply that there has been no global warming for 15 years.

I see:
Piers Forster, Climate Change Professor at Leeds University, said: ‘The fact that global surface temperatures haven’t risen in the last 15 years, combined with good knowledge of the terms changing climate, make the high estimates unlikely.’

Yes - there is a lot more to the planet's heat content than surface temperature. He ceratinly did not imply that there has been no global warming for 15 years.

I see:
Professor Judith Curry, head of climate science at the prestigious Georgia Institute of Technology, said: ‘The models are running too hot. The flat trend in global surface temperatures may continue for another decade or two.’
Yes - there is a lot more to the planet's heat content than surface temperature. She ceratinly did not imply that there has been no global warming for 15 years.

We know that you have been sucked in and fooled by a silly column in a tabloid that you didn't understand. What I want to know is why you decided to start telling lies.

We are still waiting to see these "multitude of eminent climate scientists " who say that there has been no global warming for 15 years.

Come on Liar. Show us.

You must enjoy making an a$$ of yourself, eh? Honestly, were you born without a brain? I reckon you're more delusional than Gillard's pet - David Bradbury...

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Reply #33 - Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:21pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:13pm:

"Global surface temperatures have not risen in 15 years. They make the high estimates unlikely" - Piers Forster, Climate Change Professor at Leeds University

I'll take that apology now...

Yes. Global surface temperatures have not risen in 15 years.

What about the rest of the heat in the earth's climate system besides surface temperatures?

Ocean heat?
Melting of glaciers and ice caps?

You claimed that there is a "multitude of eminent climate scientists " who say that there has been no global warming for 15 years.

To support this you have 3 quotes relating to surface temperature only. You are a liar.

Actually - I know it is unfair to call you a liar. You really are simply an idiot. A poor, sad idiot who is gullible enough to believe anything he reads that supports his poor, sad ignorant view of the world.

Pathetic really.

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Re: Global warming accelerating. Abbott squibs it.
Reply #34 - Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:21pm

MOTR wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:17pm:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Ur4VMLmj7BQ/URW7c1Pr_MI/AAAAAAAACbE/WsEkNXWEGH4/s1600/...

Are you purposely being obtuse, armchair.

What part of the argument don't you get. 90% of. The warming is occurring in our oceans.

Whats the temperature monitor spread. Is is 1 monitor per 5 klms. 10klms ...... how many monitors per ?klms at each depth?

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Reply #35 - Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:23pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:20pm:

You must enjoy making an a$$ of yourself, eh? Honestly, were you born without a brain? I reckon you're more delusional than Gillard's pet - David Bradbury...

I am not the one that claims that there are a "multitude of eminent climate scientists " who say that there has been no global warming for 15 years - and then to support this, post a column from a British tabloid that does not contain one single quote of any scientist saying that there has been no global warming for 15 years .

I would say that that is about as dumb as one could possibly be. What do you reckon?

I think you need to apologise to the forum for telling lies, don't you?

Come on liar. You have been caught red-handed.

Man up. You are not fooling anyone.

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Reply #36 - Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:23pm

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:21pm:

MOTR wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:17pm:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Ur4VMLmj7BQ/URW7c1Pr_MI/AAAAAAAACbE/WsEkNXWEGH4/s1600/...

Are you purposely being obtuse, armchair.

What part of the argument don't you get. 90% of. The warming is occurring in our oceans.

Whats the temperature monitor spread. Is is 1 monitor per 5 klms. 10klms ...... how many monitors per ?klms at each depth?

Yeah, progs, there is no thermal expansion.

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Reply #37 - Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:25pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:21pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:13pm:

"Global surface temperatures have not risen in 15 years. They make the high estimates unlikely" - Piers Forster, Climate Change Professor at Leeds University

I'll take that apology now...

Yes. Global surface temperatures have not risen in 15 years.

What about the rest of the heat in the earth's climate system besides surface temperatures?

Ocean heat?
Melting of glaciers and ice caps?

You claimed that there is a "multitude of eminent climate scientists " who say that there has been no global warming for 15 years.

To support this you have 3 quotes relating to surface temperature only. You are a liar.

Actually - I know it is unfair to call you a liar. You really are simply an idiot. A poor, sad idiot who is gullible enough to believe anything he reads that supports his poor, sad ignorant view of the world.

Pathetic really.

Surface temperature is directly related to ocean temperatures. Solar radiation (heat) bounces off the oceans to warm the air, giving us our climates and seasons. Hence, if there has been no rise in surface temperatures, nor has there been a rise in ocean temperatures. If you don't know this one simple piece of climatology, you really need to go back to school...

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Reply #38 - Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:25pm

MOTR wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:23pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:21pm:

MOTR wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:17pm:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Ur4VMLmj7BQ/URW7c1Pr_MI/AAAAAAAACbE/WsEkNXWEGH4/s1600/...

Are you purposely being obtuse, armchair.

What part of the argument don't you get. 90% of. The warming is occurring in our oceans.

Whats the temperature monitor spread. Is is 1 monitor per 5 klms. 10klms ...... how many monitors per ?klms at each depth?

Yeah, progs, there is no thermal expansion.

http://www.carbonbrief.org/media/93469/sea_level_aviso_to_2012.jpg

Yeh didnt think you would answer me, but im fine with that. See you next time you drag out that BS.

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Reply #39 - Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:26pm

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:17pm:

It is your stategy of ignoring my reponses and asking the exact same question, that is failing.

Don't tell lies Progs.

You don't respond.
You run away and try to change the subject.

If you had ever answered the questions you claim you have - you would cut and paste that answer every time you were asked

You are a liar.

You are fooling no one

Tell us how global warming could have stopped if:

THe oceans continue to warm
sea levels continue to rise
glaciers and the arctic continue to melt

Answer.

Or cut and paste a previous answer (we both know you are lying - you have never answered)

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Reply #40 - Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:27pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:23pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:20pm:

You must enjoy making an a$$ of yourself, eh? Honestly, were you born without a brain? I reckon you're more delusional than Gillard's pet - David Bradbury...

I am not the one that claims that there are a "multitude of eminent climate scientists " who say that there has been no global warming for 15 years - and then to support this, post a column from a British tabloid that does not contain one single quote of any scientist saying that there has been no global warming for 15 years .

I would say that that is about as dumb as one could possibly be. What do you reckon?

I think you need to apologise to the forum for telling lies, don't you?

Come on liar. You have been caught red-handed.

Man up. You are not fooling anyone.

I highlighted the relevant section where you contradicted yourself and you still don't get it? Wow, you're a lost cause.

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Reply #41 - Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:29pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:25pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:21pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:13pm:

"Global surface temperatures have not risen in 15 years. They make the high estimates unlikely" - Piers Forster, Climate Change Professor at Leeds University

I'll take that apology now...

Yes. Global surface temperatures have not risen in 15 years.

What about the rest of the heat in the earth's climate system besides surface temperatures?

Ocean heat?
Melting of glaciers and ice caps?

You claimed that there is a "multitude of eminent climate scientists " who say that there has been no global warming for 15 years.

To support this you have 3 quotes relating to surface temperature only. You are a liar.

Actually - I know it is unfair to call you a liar. You really are simply an idiot. A poor, sad idiot who is gullible enough to believe anything he reads that supports his poor, sad ignorant view of the world.

Pathetic really.

Surface temperature is directly related to ocean temperatures. Solar radiation (heat) bounces off the oceans to warm the air, giving us our climates and seasons. Hence, if there has been no rise in surface temperatures, nor has there been a rise in ocean temperatures. If you don't know this one simple piece of climatology, you really need to go back to school...

There has been rise in ocean temperatures. Look at MOTRs post above
The has been increases in heat content causing melting of glaciers and the arctic ice cap
The has been increases in heat content causing sea level rise

Don't tell lies to me idiot. You are no good at it.

Now tell us - Where are the "multitude of eminent climate scientists " who say that there has been no global warming for 15 years?

Why did you try to support this, post a column from a British tabloid that does not contain one single quote of any scientist saying that there has been no global warming for 15 years?

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Reply #42 - Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:30pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:26pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:17pm:

It is your stategy of ignoring my reponses and asking the exact same question, that is failing.

Don't tell lies Progs.

You don't respond.
You run away and try to change the subject.

If you had ever answered the questions you claim you have - you would cut and paste that answer every time you were asked

You are a liar.

You are fooling no one

Tell us how global warming could have stopped if:

THe oceans continue to warm
sea levels continue to rise
glaciers and the arctic continue to melt

Answer.

Or cut and paste a previous answer (we both know you are lying - you have never answered)

I cant believe gillard gave you education to look after. You would be the furthest from my mind when it comes to looking after kids education. Dam, better start home schooling.

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Reply #43 - Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:34pm

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:25pm:

MOTR wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:23pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:21pm:

MOTR wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:17pm:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Ur4VMLmj7BQ/URW7c1Pr_MI/AAAAAAAACbE/WsEkNXWEGH4/s1600/...

Are you purposely being obtuse, armchair.

What part of the argument don't you get. 90% of. The warming is occurring in our oceans.

Whats the temperature monitor spread. Is is 1 monitor per 5 klms. 10klms ...... how many monitors per ?klms at each depth?

Yeah, progs, there is no thermal expansion.

http://www.carbonbrief.org/media/93469/sea_level_aviso_to_2012.jpg

Yeh didnt think you would answer me, but im fine with that. See you next time you drag out that BS.

Explain why sea levels are rising without thermal expansion progs. The study I showed you last time had coverage at 50%.

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Reply #44 - Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:37pm

MOTR wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 8:09pm:

Taking into account the heating of the oceans global warming has accelerated, with more overall global warming in the past 15 years than the prior 15 years.

Distinctive climate signals in reanalysis of global ocean heat content

Magdalena A. Balmaseda, Kevin E. Trenberth, & Erland Källén. 2013

Not surprisingly the physics is right.

How can Abbott justify sidelining Australian ingenuity when so much is at stake. Squibbing on this issue is not an option.

Shame Abbott Shame.

Australia contributes 1.3% to total world carbon emissions

So even if we doubled our numbers - it's still 2.6% which is bugger all

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Bill 14% is not the alcohol content of that wine. It's your poll number

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