Australian Politics Forum - All Carbon Tax related giveaways will be reviewed

MOTR Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6646	Re: All Carbon Tax related giveaways will be reviewed Reply #30 - Mar 30^th, 2013 at 5:54pm Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 30^th, 2013 at 5:01pm: You can ensure prices drop easy enough through price control mechanisms. WTF, Andrei? Did you say you came first in economics.
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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: All Carbon Tax related giveaways will be reviewed Reply #31 - Mar 30^th, 2013 at 6:03pm I said I got a first. I.e above 70% score at uni. And yes price control regulation drops price to consumers.
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MOTR Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6646	Re: All Carbon Tax related giveaways will be reviewed Reply #32 - Mar 30^th, 2013 at 6:06pm Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 30^th, 2013 at 6:03pm: I said I got a first. I.e above 70% score at uni. And yes price control regulation drops price to consumers. So you keep on saying. What price control regulations, Andrei?
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Reply #33 - Mar 30^th, 2013 at 8:07pm

Maqqa wrote on Mar 30^th, 2013 at 5:53pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Mar 30^th, 2013 at 4:35pm:

Well, he had to think of something. It took him long enough.

Of course the ACCC would have to prove any price increase after the carbon tax was due only to the carbon tax.

The whole thing will be a farce.

both you are DNA are morons

Gillard used the ACCC to stop profiteering when the carbon tax came in and you've not criticised that move

But if Abbott uses the ACCC to stop profiteering - then it's a bad idea

MORONS!!!

one was about controlling how much prices went up .... thats a completely different kettle of fish to trying to force prices go down .... it just won't happen and you know it.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74978 Gender:	Re: All Carbon Tax related giveaways will be reviewed Reply #34 - Mar 30^th, 2013 at 8:08pm Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 30^th, 2013 at 6:03pm: I said I got a first. I.e above 70% score at uni. And yes price control regulation drops price to consumers. the eternal capitalist is calling for pricing regulations? hang your head in shame boy .....
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Peter Freedman Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5275 Wellington Gender:	Re: All Carbon Tax related giveaways will be reviewed Reply #35 - Mar 30^th, 2013 at 9:25pm Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 30^th, 2013 at 5:01pm: You can ensure prices drop easy enough through price control mechanisms. Price control mechanisms? I thought you believed in a free market! Anyway, what price control mechanisms? Legislation? An army of price inspectors? Sniffer dogs? What?
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Reply #36 - Mar 30^th, 2013 at 9:52pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 30^th, 2013 at 8:07pm:

Maqqa wrote on Mar 30^th, 2013 at 5:53pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Mar 30^th, 2013 at 4:35pm:

Well, he had to think of something. It took him long enough.

Of course the ACCC would have to prove any price increase after the carbon tax was due only to the carbon tax.

The whole thing will be a farce.

both you are DNA are morons

Gillard used the ACCC to stop profiteering when the carbon tax came in and you've not criticised that move

But if Abbott uses the ACCC to stop profiteering - then it's a bad idea

MORONS!!!

one was about controlling how much prices went up .... thats a completely different kettle of fish to trying to force prices go down .... it just won't happen and you know it.

You've not respond to the fact that when Gillard ask the ACCC to monitor price then you give it your blessing but when Abbott ask the ACCC to monitor price then it's not going to work

Your only justification is "....and you know it"

So in your opinion the ACCC can only enforce prices going up but not going down Grin

You know jacksh1t

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Bill 14% is not the alcohol content of that wine. It's your poll number

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MOTR Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6646	Re: All Carbon Tax related giveaways will be reviewed Reply #37 - Mar 30^th, 2013 at 10:06pm You sound very confused about the powers of the ACCC. The ACCC simply doesn't have the power to enforce prices.
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Reply #38 - Mar 31^st, 2013 at 12:12am

Maqqa wrote on Mar 30^th, 2013 at 5:53pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Mar 30^th, 2013 at 4:35pm:

Well, he had to think of something. It took him long enough.

Of course the ACCC would have to prove any price increase after the carbon tax was due only to the carbon tax.

The whole thing will be a farce.

both you are DNA are morons

Gillard used the ACCC to stop profiteering when the carbon tax came in and you've not criticised that move

But if Abbott uses the ACCC to stop profiteering - then it's a bad idea

MORONS!!!

Why you seem to pick and choose the things you are critical of????

In this case who ever said that I had any great confidence in the ACCC and restricting prices, but the measurment does show that any profiteering has been minimal.

That is what the ACCC do - watch price increases - not price reductions (it does not happen) and it won't in this case either.

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 59008 Here Gender:	Re: All Carbon Tax related giveaways will be reviewed Reply #39 - Mar 31^st, 2013 at 12:16am The Liberals - Gaudians of the not so free market.
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Reply #40 - Mar 31^st, 2013 at 8:33am

MOTR wrote on Mar 30^th, 2013 at 10:06pm:

You sound very confused about the powers of the ACCC. The ACCC simply doesn't have the power to enforce prices.

Gillard's using it now for the carbon tax

So why were you not vocal about Gillard using it to monitor profiteering under the carbon tax?

So why are you not vocal about Gillard using it to monitor profiteering under the carbon tax?

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Bill 14% is not the alcohol content of that wine. It's your poll number

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Reply #41 - Mar 31^st, 2013 at 8:40am

Dnarever wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 12:12am:

Maqqa wrote on Mar 30^th, 2013 at 5:53pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Mar 30^th, 2013 at 4:35pm:

Well, he had to think of something. It took him long enough.

Of course the ACCC would have to prove any price increase after the carbon tax was due only to the carbon tax.

The whole thing will be a farce.

both you are DNA are morons

Gillard used the ACCC to stop profiteering when the carbon tax came in and you've not criticised that move

But if Abbott uses the ACCC to stop profiteering - then it's a bad idea

MORONS!!!

Why you seem to pick and choose the things you are critical of????

In this case who ever said that I had any great confidence in the ACCC and restricting prices, but the measurment does show that any profiteering has been minimal.

That is what the ACCC do - watch price increases - not price reductions (it does not happen) and it won't in this case either.

(1) I am using the ACCC as a defence for price gouging because Labor is using it as a defence. I have yet to see anyone from the left criticising Gillard using the ACCC.

(2) So the question here is - why are you attacking the system that Gillard's using?

(3) If you have not criticised Gillard for using this system then you have no credibility in attacking Abbott for using the system

This is about hypocrisy

When Gillard uses the ACCC to stamp out profiteering - you stay silent

If Abbott uses the ACCC to stamp out profiteering - you are vocal that it won't work

So is this a real discussion about the ACCC or is it an opportunity to show your bias?

If it's a real discussion then you would have done so when Gillard first used it!!!

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Bill 14% is not the alcohol content of that wine. It's your poll number

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Reply #42 - Mar 31^st, 2013 at 8:43am

Maqqa wrote on Mar 30^th, 2013 at 9:52pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 30^th, 2013 at 8:07pm:

Maqqa wrote on Mar 30^th, 2013 at 5:53pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Mar 30^th, 2013 at 4:35pm:

Well, he had to think of something. It took him long enough.

Of course the ACCC would have to prove any price increase after the carbon tax was due only to the carbon tax.

The whole thing will be a farce.

both you are DNA are morons

Gillard used the ACCC to stop profiteering when the carbon tax came in and you've not criticised that move

But if Abbott uses the ACCC to stop profiteering - then it's a bad idea

MORONS!!!

one was about controlling how much prices went up .... thats a completely different kettle of fish to trying to force prices go down .... it just won't happen and you know it.

You've not respond to the fact that when Gillard ask the ACCC to monitor price then you give it your blessing but when Abbott ask the ACCC to monitor price then it's not going to work

Your only justification is "....and you know it"

So in your opinion the ACCC can only enforce prices going up but not going down Grin

You know jacksh1t

Ohh, how sweat ... gumpy thinks he knows what I think ...

actually gumpy I think the ACCC is a toothless tiger

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Reply #43 - Mar 31^st, 2013 at 8:48am

John Smith wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 8:43am:

Maqqa wrote on Mar 30^th, 2013 at 9:52pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 30^th, 2013 at 8:07pm:

Maqqa wrote on Mar 30^th, 2013 at 5:53pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Mar 30^th, 2013 at 4:35pm:

Well, he had to think of something. It took him long enough.

Of course the ACCC would have to prove any price increase after the carbon tax was due only to the carbon tax.

The whole thing will be a farce.

both you are DNA are morons

Gillard used the ACCC to stop profiteering when the carbon tax came in and you've not criticised that move

But if Abbott uses the ACCC to stop profiteering - then it's a bad idea

MORONS!!!

one was about controlling how much prices went up .... thats a completely different kettle of fish to trying to force prices go down .... it just won't happen and you know it.

You've not respond to the fact that when Gillard ask the ACCC to monitor price then you give it your blessing but when Abbott ask the ACCC to monitor price then it's not going to work

Your only justification is "....and you know it"

So in your opinion the ACCC can only enforce prices going up but not going down Grin

You know jacksh1t

Ohh, how sweat ... gumpy thinks he knows what I think ...

actually gumpy I think the ACCC is a toothless tiger

If you didn't make that against Gillard's usage of the ACCC then you have no credibility in using it against Abbott

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Bill 14% is not the alcohol content of that wine. It's your poll number

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Reply #44 - Mar 31^st, 2013 at 8:50am

Maqqa wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 8:48am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 8:43am:

Maqqa wrote on Mar 30^th, 2013 at 9:52pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 30^th, 2013 at 8:07pm:

Maqqa wrote on Mar 30^th, 2013 at 5:53pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Mar 30^th, 2013 at 4:35pm:

Well, he had to think of something. It took him long enough.

Of course the ACCC would have to prove any price increase after the carbon tax was due only to the carbon tax.

The whole thing will be a farce.

both you are DNA are morons

Gillard used the ACCC to stop profiteering when the carbon tax came in and you've not criticised that move

But if Abbott uses the ACCC to stop profiteering - then it's a bad idea

MORONS!!!

one was about controlling how much prices went up .... thats a completely different kettle of fish to trying to force prices go down .... it just won't happen and you know it.

You've not respond to the fact that when Gillard ask the ACCC to monitor price then you give it your blessing but when Abbott ask the ACCC to monitor price then it's not going to work

Your only justification is "....and you know it"

So in your opinion the ACCC can only enforce prices going up but not going down Grin

You know jacksh1t

Ohh, how sweat ... gumpy thinks he knows what I think ...

actually gumpy I think the ACCC is a toothless tiger

If you didn't make that against Gillard's usage of the ACCC then you have no credibility in using it against Abbott

bugger your an idiot ...why would I? I don't see a problem with the carbon tax ... you do

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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