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Mar 30^th, 2013 at 8:39am

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If one overwhelmingly regards the opinion polls as being sacrosanct in determining who will win the election in September then you would have to concede that the LNP will win handsomely. However, if you are of the left and an optimist like me then you rely on your gut instincts. So for me (and I very we’ll might be making a bad call) there is still much water to flow under the bridge. There will come a point in time when the electorate will have to consider three things. Firstly Abbots policies and costings (of which to date only one major one has been announced)and secondly what it is of Labor’s policies they are overwhelmingly prepared to forgo. And thirdly Abbott’s character.

1 Will they overwhelmingly reject the need for a better and more equal education system for their children and think that the Gonski report is not worthy of implementation despite it receiving loud applause from academics and the public. Remember the coalition had said they are happy with the current system.

2 Will they overwhelmingly reject the need for an NDIS and be happy with the status quo. Again this policy has received widespread community support. The coalition while supporting it say it is not in their immediate plans.

3 Will they overwhelmingly forgo any possibility that gay folk would ever achieve marriage equality.

4 Will they overwhelmingly forgo any possibility that Australia might ever become a republic with its own head of state. Not even a plebiscite.

5 Will they overwhelmingly think its fine for families to lose their school hand outs that help to pay for school fees etc.

6 Will they overwhelmingly accept that a large portion of the population ( 3.6 million and mainly women ) will have their taxes increased.

7 Will they overwhelmingly say that they are not interested in a 3% increase in their superannuation.

8 Will they overwhelming think its fine for the opposition to rip up the Murray Darling agreement.

9 Will they overwhelmingly reject the governments handling of the economy which most observers believe to be amongst the best in the world. If not the best.

10 Will they overwhelmingly want to get rid of the mining tax despite it having the potential, repeat potential to spread the wealth of the nation.

11 Will they overwhelmingly say that they could not care less that between 13 and 20,000 public servants will lose their jobs.

12 Will they overwhelmingly accept a second-rate broadband service where a third of the population will get nothing better than what the have now and that we would become a technological backwater.

13 Will they reject a carbon pollution scheme that is demonstrably shown to be working.

14 Do they truly want Barnaby Joyce as a future deputy PM.

Could they have already decided overwhelmingly to reject all this even without an opposition card on the table.

Now I could probably go on and some might also add some other policy areas but these suffice to make my point.

And of course we have a judge finding that members of a political party (The LNP) conspired with James Ashby to use the courts to bring a false claim against the speaker of the house with the eventual intent of bringing down the government. Do I take it that this means nothing to the electorate. And if the appeal fails will all be forgiven.

Is the public concerned at the AFPs reluctance to investigate. There seems to be an odd relationship between the Federal Police and the LNP.

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Gianna Junior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 52 Australia Gender:	Re: Saturday thought bubbles Reply #1 - Mar 30^th, 2013 at 8:49am It continues to fascinate me to see accusations against Abbott for allegedly not having policies.....and in the next breath the same people are telling us exactly what will happen if he is elected.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 105822 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Saturday thought bubbles Reply #2 - Mar 30^th, 2013 at 8:50am Come on - Labor has us living way beyond our means. Labor can't manage money.
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Reply #3 - Mar 30^th, 2013 at 4:09pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 30^th, 2013 at 8:50am:

Come on - Labor has us living way beyond our means.

Labor can't manage money.

They manage to save us from the worst of the GFC. You are beginning to sound like a tea party fundamentalist. Governments that can't manage their fiscal position don't hold on their AAA ratings. Are you saying governments should never go into debt?

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Reply #4 - Mar 30^th, 2013 at 5:08pm

Gianna wrote on Mar 30^th, 2013 at 8:49am:

It continues to fascinate me to see accusations against Abbott for allegedly not having policies.....and in the next breath the same people are telling us exactly what will happen if he is elected. Exclaim

you spotted that, huh? labor supporters and labor MPs just make up stuff and hope it sticks. Teh trouble is that the polls tell us that it isnt working very well

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Reply #5 - Mar 30^th, 2013 at 5:09pm

MOTR wrote on Mar 30^th, 2013 at 4:09pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 30^th, 2013 at 8:50am:

Come on - Labor has us living way beyond our means.

Labor can't manage money.

They manage to save us from the worst of the GFC. You are beginning to sound like a tea party fundamentalist. Governments that can't manage their fiscal position don't hold on their AAA ratings. Are you saying governments should never go into debt?

and if the same outcome could have been had for $50B less and with more acheived for the money? then what?

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Reply #6 - Mar 30^th, 2013 at 5:12pm

MOTR wrote on Mar 30^th, 2013 at 4:09pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 30^th, 2013 at 8:50am:

Come on - Labor has us living way beyond our means.

Labor can't manage money.

They manage to save us from the worst of the GFC. You are beginning to sound like a tea party fundamentalist. Governments that can't manage their fiscal position don't hold on their AAA ratings. Are you saying governments should never go into debt?

By spending a surplus left to them by a prior Government and riding off the back of the growth of the People's Republic of China.

Even people with 5th grade economics can see they didn't need to do much.

The fact they've Ballsed up pretty much everything else will explain why they are about to be assraped by the electorate in Sept.

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Reply #7 - Mar 30^th, 2013 at 5:57pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 30^th, 2013 at 5:12pm:

MOTR wrote on Mar 30^th, 2013 at 4:09pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 30^th, 2013 at 8:50am:

Come on - Labor has us living way beyond our means.

Labor can't manage money.

They manage to save us from the worst of the GFC. You are beginning to sound like a tea party fundamentalist. Governments that can't manage their fiscal position don't hold on their AAA ratings. Are you saying governments should never go into debt?

By spending a surplus left to them by a prior Government and riding off the back of the growth of the People's Republic of China.

Even people with 5th grade economics can see they didn't need to do much.

The fact they've Ballsed up pretty much everything else will explain why they are about to be assraped by the electorate in Sept.

Perhaps that's your problem, Andrei. You need a little more than 5th grade economics.

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Reply #8 - Mar 30^th, 2013 at 6:47pm

John S wrote on Mar 30^th, 2013 at 8:39am:

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2 Will they overwhelmingly reject the need for an NDIS and be happy with the status quo. Again this policy has received widespread community support. The coalition while supporting it say it is not in their immediate plans.

3 Will they overwhelmingly forgo any possibility that gay folk would ever achieve marriage equality.

4 Will they overwhelmingly forgo any possibility that Australia might ever become a republic with its own head of state. Not even a plebiscite.

5 Will they overwhelmingly think its fine for families to lose their school hand outs that help to pay for school fees etc.

12 Will they overwhelmingly accept a second-rate broadband service where a third of the population will get nothing better than what the have now and that we would become a technological backwater.

13 Will they reject a carbon pollution scheme that is demonstrably shown to be working.

14 Do they truly want Barnaby Joyce as a future deputy PM.

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What NDIS? It is an unfunded dream.

There are many more important things to worry about other than gays getting married. Why not live in sin?

There are more important things to worry about so why devote time to a republic case. We will move to a republic when the PEOPLE say they want it to happen rather than a group of trendy pollies.

If you can't fund your kids' education don't have kids. What happened to free education by the way?

Wireless will put the NBN in the shade in about 5 years.

Why not Barnaby Joyce as deputy PM? We have Wayne Swan as deputy PM so we're beyond being treated as fools.

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Re: Saturday thought bubbles
Reply #9 - Mar 31^st, 2013 at 7:43am

salad in wrote on Mar 30^th, 2013 at 6:47pm:

John S wrote on Mar 30^th, 2013 at 8:39am:

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Opinion Polls

2 Will they overwhelmingly reject the need for an NDIS and be happy with the status quo. Again this policy has received widespread community support. The coalition while supporting it say it is not in their immediate plans.

3 Will they overwhelmingly forgo any possibility that gay folk would ever achieve marriage equality.

4 Will they overwhelmingly forgo any possibility that Australia might ever become a republic with its own head of state. Not even a plebiscite.

5 Will they overwhelmingly think its fine for families to lose their school hand outs that help to pay for school fees etc.

12 Will they overwhelmingly accept a second-rate broadband service where a third of the population will get nothing better than what the have now and that we would become a technological backwater.

13 Will they reject a carbon pollution scheme that is demonstrably shown to be working.

14 Do they truly want Barnaby Joyce as a future deputy PM.

Read the full article

What NDIS? It is an unfunded dream.

So you are quite happy that people with disability get no care or support when there is no one to look after them

There are many more important things to worry about other than gays getting married. Why not live in sin?

So we treat gay and lesbians as second class citizen.

There are more important things to worry about so why devote time to a republic case. We will move to a republic when the PEOPLE say they want it to happen rather than a group of trendy pollies.

it is up to the people to deicide when we become a republic and with Abbott as prime minister we will never get that chance.

If you can't fund your kids' education don't have kids. What happened to free education by the way?

You don't care for ALL kids to have the same eduction, don't matter where they live or what school they go to.

Wireless will put the NBN in the shade in about 5 years.

In the city it might but what about people in the country. I live in the country and there is some places around here that I can't even get mobile phone coverage

Why not Barnaby Joyce as deputy PM? We have Wayne Swan as deputy PM so we're beyond being treated as fools.

Barnaby Joyce is a goose. The LNP was scrapping the bottom of the barrel when they preselected him

I notice that you left 7 of them out, so you much agree with those 7 then

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Reply #10 - Mar 31^st, 2013 at 8:03am

John S wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 7:43am:

salad in wrote on Mar 30^th, 2013 at 6:47pm:

John S wrote on Mar 30^th, 2013 at 8:39am:

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Opinion Polls

2 Will they overwhelmingly reject the need for an NDIS and be happy with the status quo. Again this policy has received widespread community support. The coalition while supporting it say it is not in their immediate plans.

3 Will they overwhelmingly forgo any possibility that gay folk would ever achieve marriage equality.

4 Will they overwhelmingly forgo any possibility that Australia might ever become a republic with its own head of state. Not even a plebiscite.

5 Will they overwhelmingly think its fine for families to lose their school hand outs that help to pay for school fees etc.

12 Will they overwhelmingly accept a second-rate broadband service where a third of the population will get nothing better than what the have now and that we would become a technological backwater.

13 Will they reject a carbon pollution scheme that is demonstrably shown to be working.

14 Do they truly want Barnaby Joyce as a future deputy PM.

Read the full article

What NDIS? It is an unfunded dream.

So you are quite happy that people with disability get no care or support when there is no one to look after them

There are many more important things to worry about other than gays getting married. Why not live in sin?

So we treat gay and lesbians as second class citizen.

There are more important things to worry about so why devote time to a republic case. We will move to a republic when the PEOPLE say they want it to happen rather than a group of trendy pollies.

it is up to the people to deicide when we become a republic and with Abbott as prime minister we will never get that chance.

If you can't fund your kids' education don't have kids. What happened to free education by the way?

You don't care for ALL kids to have the same eduction, don't matter where they live or what school they go to.

Wireless will put the NBN in the shade in about 5 years.

In the city it might but what about people in the country. I live in the country and there is some places around here that I can't even get mobile phone coverage

Why not Barnaby Joyce as deputy PM? We have Wayne Swan as deputy PM so we're beyond being treated as fools.

Barnaby Joyce is a goose. The LNP was scrapping the bottom of the barrel when they preselected him

I notice that you left 7 of them out, so you much agree with those 7 then

what are you? a primary school kid?

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