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Mar 31st, 2013 at 6:17am
 
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The Hon Peter Garrett MP
Minister for School Education
Minister for Early Childhood and Youth

Christopher Pyne has shown once again that he has no idea about how the school funding system works or what our plans are - and he has no interest in finding out.

His latest claims show a complete lack of understanding about the National Plan for School improvement and follow a succession of ridiculous positions on the important issue of school funding:

He dismissed the Gonski Report within 20 minutes of it being released.
He said he would repeal any legislation we introduced before he had even seen it.
He has consistently said he will keep a broken funding model that will see schools across Australia lose up to $5.4 billion in coming years.
He continues to pretend the Opposition would index schools at 6 per cent when he knows the current indexation rate is 3.9 per cent and is estimated to fall to 3 per cent from 2014.
He claims the Coalition cares about teacher quality when his real plans are to slash $425 million from our Teacher Quality National Partnership.
He has also confirmed he doesn’t even think it is his job to come up with a better way to fund schools, even though the most comprehensive independent review in 40 years found conclusively a new model is needed.

How does he expect anyone to take him seriously on education when he doesn’t even think it’s his job to come up with a plan to fix a broken school funding system?

The National Plan for School Improvement includes a new fairer school funding model. We want every child’s education to be supported by a new nationally consistent Schooling Resource Standard.

This would include a base amount per student and additional ‘loadings’ to address school and student disadvantage. These loadings would support Indigenous students, students with a disability, students with limited English language skills and schools in regional and remote areas – exactly what was recommended in the Gonski Review.

We have always recognised the important role of education authorities, including government, Catholic and independent schools, and the need for them to retain some flexibility to address local need. The Gonski Review also supported the role of system redistribution noting that it would need to be more publicly transparent.

This approach is exactly what we are negotiating with the states, territories and non-government education authorities. It represents the biggest change to school funding in 40 years.

Mr Pyne clearly opposes both transparency and needs-based funding and has said that he will not sign up to the idea of Australian schools being amongst the best in the world.

We are prepared to make significant additional investment but we also expect the states to pay their fair share. We can’t do this if some states continue to cut funding to their own education budgets.

That’s why we’ve asked states to commit to at least 3 per cent indexation and not cut further funding.

If Mr Pyne had spent more time reading the Gonski Review and less time dismissing it, he would know what we are proposing is consistent with the core recommendations of the review.

Mr Pyne’s latest claims do nothing but confirm that the Opposition simply don’t have a plan for the future of our schools – and are clearly not bothering to develop one.

The Coalition’s only plan for schools it to slash funding, sack one in seven teachers and squeeze more kids into every classroom.

Cutting funding from education is what Liberals do. Only Labor can be trusted to deliver the best results for schools across Australia.


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Reply #1 - Mar 31st, 2013 at 6:32am
 
I have to learn not to take these thread subject seriously. Pyne smacked around. In whos dream. Yours or boldies.
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Reply #2 - Mar 31st, 2013 at 6:38am
 
Chrissy does enjoy a good smacking
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Reply #3 - Mar 31st, 2013 at 6:40am
 
He is a useless loudmouth.

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Reply #4 - Mar 31st, 2013 at 6:44am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 6:40am:
He is a useless loudmouth.

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Pyne, after liberals win the next election, is going to sh.. all over Albanesee as the PM's gatekeeper. Pyne will do it with style and intelligence and grace. It will be nothing close to the current snide pathetic gatekeeping we have now.
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Reply #5 - Mar 31st, 2013 at 6:46am
 
adelcrow wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 6:38am:
Chrissy does enjoy a good smacking


Politics is a game for him.

You've got to admit, progs, that any politicians that dismisses such a comprehensive and critical review just 20 minutes after it's been released, has irreparably undermined their own credibility.

As a parent, what faith can you have in this man to do what is best for your child when he sees them primarily as a political football.
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Reply #6 - Mar 31st, 2013 at 6:49am
 
progressiveslol wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 6:44am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 6:40am:
He is a useless loudmouth.

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Pyne, after liberals win the next election, is going to sh.. all over Albanesee as the PM's gatekeeper. Pyne will do it with style and intelligence and grace. It will be nothing close to the current snide pathetic gatekeeping we have now.


He is obsessed with the politics. How is waiting 20 minutes to respond to such a vital report got anything to do with intelligence, style or grace.

Does he think he's still in the school debating team. It seems he is more interesting in appearing smart than actually being smart. All fluff and no substance.
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Reply #7 - Mar 31st, 2013 at 6:56am
 
The man could have at least waited to give the impression of due consideration. The man didn't even have the discipline to disguise he's unseemly haste to turn our kids into a political football.

Style and grace, really, progs.
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Reply #8 - Mar 31st, 2013 at 7:24am
 
"I love the smell of napalm desperation in the morning."
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Reply #9 - Mar 31st, 2013 at 7:30am
 
Actually as Ive said many times before ..That even though he can be an annoying little sh!t I quite like Chris Pyne. He's the leader of the SA moderates and hates Nick Minchin and Cory Bernardi with a passion.
Given a choice between voting for Garrett or Pyne my vote would always go to Pyne.
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Reply #10 - Mar 31st, 2013 at 7:35am
 
The Heartless Felon wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 7:24am:
"I love the smell of napalm desperation in the morning."


So I take it, you, like Pyne, don't accept Gonski's findings.


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Reply #11 - Mar 31st, 2013 at 7:37am
 
adelcrow wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 7:30am:
Actually as Ive said many times before ..That even though he can be an annoying little sh!t I quite like Chris Pyne. He's the leader of the SA moderates and hates Nick Minchin and Cory Bernardi with a passion.
Given a choice between voting for Garrett or Pyne my vote would always go to Pyne.


On this issue he doesn't sound at all moderate. Indeed, the more power he accumulates the more Minchin like he appears. Personally, I reckon they're both "fruit loops."
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Reply #12 - Mar 31st, 2013 at 7:49am
 
MOTR wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 7:37am:
adelcrow wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 7:30am:
Actually as Ive said many times before ..That even though he can be an annoying little sh!t I quite like Chris Pyne. He's the leader of the SA moderates and hates Nick Minchin and Cory Bernardi with a passion.
Given a choice between voting for Garrett or Pyne my vote would always go to Pyne.


On this issue he doesn't sound at all moderate. Indeed, the more power he accumulates the more Minchin like he appears. Personally, I reckon they're both "fruit loops."


Pyne has always supported the federal leader without question..My personal experience of Pyne has more to do with the SA Liberal party and the moderate faction of which he is the leader especially now Vanstone and Downer have left politics.
As for Minchin and Bernardi I wouldnt p!ss on either of them if they were on fire.
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Reply #13 - Mar 31st, 2013 at 8:06am
 
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Why Christopher Pyne should go back to school
BERNARD KEANE | FEB 27, 2013 11:37AM

Australia’s secondary educational funding model is broken. To claim otherwise, as Christopher Pyne did today, will perpetuate both inequality and poor educational outcomes.

“The current funding model does work, it’s not a broken model.”


So all is well in Australian secondary education funding, then: this morning, the Coalition’s shadow education minister Christopher Pyne — making a rare foray into his own portfolio — declared there was no problem with the way we currently fund secondary education. When asked by his interviewer whether he was aware of recent evidence of declines in Australian education outcomes, Pyne spluttered with annoyance — he’d been in his portfolio for four years, he said — and argued they wouldn’t be fixed via the Gonski proposal.

Despite what the media and various stakeholders have suggested, Australia for a long time has had a reasonably efficient secondary education system: we spend less than the OECD average on education, but still managed to score in the top 10 in the OECD’s Program for International Student Assessment international rankings — we might not have been world’s best, but we got plenty of bang for our buck. However, recent evidence is that we’re slipping in literacy, particularly in comparison with rapidly improving Asian educational systems, and lagging badly in maths and science.

The principal reason for the growing gap in international comparisons is the performance of our disadvantaged students, generating what one education academic called a “substantial tail of underperformance”. “Students attending schools in which principals reported no resource shortages scored significantly higher in reading and mathematics (but not in science) than students attending schools in which principals reported being affected by resource shortages,” the Australian Council for Educational Research said in releasing a report late last year. Improving our educational performance thus requires improvements in equity.

The funding model proposed in the Gonski report specifically addresses this issue. The report concluded that there was no consistent approach to effectively using outcomes data to target educational disadvantage, or even to identifying whether resources were reaching the disadvantaged schools they were targeted at — that is, some states didn’t even know if the money they were spending to address disadvantage was working:

“Existing arrangements are complex, and do not accurately capture student need within student groups. They also fail to take account of the significant impact of concentration of disadvantage at the school level.”

It went on:

“If Australia is to make improvements to the overall performance and equity of the schooling system, it is important that funding arrangements for disadvantaged students are clear, predictable and transparent, and that the additional funding that has been identified to support disadvantaged students is directed to those who need it most. A simple approach to the allocation of funding for disadvantaged students and schools will help facilitate the collection of data on the impact the additional funding is having on improving educational outcomes.”

That is, there is a direct link between the significant flaws in the current funding model and the growing disparity between Australia’s educational outcomes and those of other economies — and also, incidentally, that there’s a direct link between educational equity and national education outcomes. Even The Australian was forced to admit that the Gonski approach to funding “had merit”.

However, if you believe the goal of current funding arrangements should be to perpetuate disadvantage and entrench advantage, that equity should not be a goal of educational funding or that it is not connected to educational outcomes, you might think the current model works perfectly satisfactorily, that it’s “not broken”. Or you might simply be adopting a contrarian position for the sake of political expediency.

But as of now, the Coalition appears committed to defending a funding model that is directly responsible for our declining educational performance.
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adelcrow wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 7:49am:
MOTR wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 7:37am:
adelcrow wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 7:30am:
Actually as Ive said many times before ..That even though he can be an annoying little sh!t I quite like Chris Pyne. He's the leader of the SA moderates and hates Nick Minchin and Cory Bernardi with a passion.
Given a choice between voting for Garrett or Pyne my vote would always go to Pyne.


On this issue he doesn't sound at all moderate. Indeed, the more power he accumulates the more Minchin like he appears. Personally, I reckon they're both "fruit loops."


Pyne has always supported the federal leader without question..My personal experience of Pyne has more to do with the SA Liberal party and the moderate faction of which he is the leader especially now Vanstone and Downer have left politics.
As for Minchin and Bernardi I wouldnt p!ss on either of them if they were on fire.


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