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Re: Abbott's Science and Economics of Climate Change
Reply #30 - Mar 31^st, 2013 at 5:46pm

Longy do you agree with Abbott's recent stance on the science? Which Abbott do you believe? 2009 Abbott, 2011 Abbott, or the yet to be determined 2015 Abbott?

If Abbott did the exact same thing as Julia for the exact same reasons, would you blame the Greens and not Abbott?

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Who what was rejected at the bollot box?

Libor. And Laberal.

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Im in the now time line. The after the last election timeline.

I'm glad you have figured that out.

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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Abbott's Science and Economics of Climate Change Reply #31 - Mar 31^st, 2013 at 5:51pm september 2013: the return of honour and democracy. assuming Gillard doesnt stage a coup. Could you really categorically rule that out? and how many of you would support it?
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48833 At my desk.	Re: Abbott's Science and Economics of Climate Change Reply #32 - Mar 31^st, 2013 at 5:52pm Longy do you agree with Abbott's recent stance on the science? Which Abbott do you believe? 2009 Abbott, 2011 Abbott, or the yet to be determined 2015 Abbott? If Abbott did the exact same thing as Julia for the exact same reasons, would you blame the Greens and not Abbott?
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Re: Abbott's Science and Economics of Climate Change
Reply #33 - Mar 31^st, 2013 at 6:05pm

freediver wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 5:52pm:

Longy do you agree with Abbott's recent stance on the science? Which Abbott do you believe? 2009 Abbott, 2011 Abbott, or the yet to be determined 2015 Abbott?

If Abbott did the exact same thing as Julia for the exact same reasons, would you blame the Greens and not Abbott?

Abbotts policy hasnt changed has it?

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48833 At my desk.	Re: Abbott's Science and Economics of Climate Change Reply #34 - Mar 31^st, 2013 at 6:07pm Sure it has. Do you agree with Abbott's recent stance on the science? Which Abbott do you believe? 2009 Abbott, 2011 Abbott, or the yet to be determined 2015 Abbott? If Abbott did the exact same thing as Julia for the exact same reasons, would you blame the Greens and not Abbott?
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Re: Abbott's Science and Economics of Climate Change
Reply #35 - Mar 31^st, 2013 at 6:08pm

freediver wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 6:07pm:

Sure it has.

Do you agree with Abbott's recent stance on the science? Which Abbott do you believe? 2009 Abbott, 2011 Abbott, or the yet to be determined 2015 Abbott?

If Abbott did the exact same thing as Julia for the exact same reasons, would you blame the Greens and not Abbott?

Direct action is still direct action. Where is the change in policy?

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48833 At my desk.	Re: Abbott's Science and Economics of Climate Change Reply #36 - Mar 31^st, 2013 at 6:10pm Before direct action. And after it.
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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Re: Abbott's Science and Economics of Climate Change Reply #37 - Mar 31^st, 2013 at 6:16pm freediver wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 6:10pm: Before direct action. And after it. Abbotts policy before or after direct action were/are what? I get he has changed his stance on the science and think I know why, but his policy has not changed.
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Re: Abbott's Science and Economics of Climate Change
Reply #38 - Mar 31^st, 2013 at 6:21pm

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Abbotts policy before or after direct action were/are what?

If you read the quotes it would be fairly obvious what it was before. As for after, I think we'll have to wait until 2015 for that. My guess is a tax.

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I get he has changed his stance on the science and think I know why

Please enlighten us....

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Re: Abbott's Science and Economics of Climate Change
Reply #39 - Mar 31^st, 2013 at 6:23pm

freediver wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 6:21pm:

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Abbotts policy before or after direct action were/are what?

If you read the quotes it would be fairly obvious what it was before. As for after, I think we'll have to wait until 2015 for that. My guess is a tax.

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I get he has changed his stance on the science and think I know why

Please enlighten us....

Abbotts policy as opposition leader has always been direct action. Is still direct action.

I know where you are going, but be dammed if I thought you were that cheap and frankly a little on the lame side.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48833 At my desk.	Re: Abbott's Science and Economics of Climate Change Reply #40 - Mar 31^st, 2013 at 6:25pm Quote: Abbotts policy as opposition leader has always been direct action. Well done. You have found yet another way to restate the time frame. Quote: I know where you are going Feel free to jump ahead.
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Re: Abbott's Science and Economics of Climate Change
Reply #41 - Mar 31^st, 2013 at 7:32pm

freediver wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 6:25pm:

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Abbotts policy as opposition leader has always been direct action.

Well done. You have found yet another way to restate the time frame.

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I know where you are going

Feel free to jump ahead.

Answering my questions without riddles would be better. Ill leave this hread to you and jump in occasionally to fix it.

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Re: Abbott's Science and Economics of Climate Change
Reply #43 - Mar 31^st, 2013 at 8:31pm

freediver wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 1:52pm:

Tony Abbott on the Science and Economics of Climate Change

http://www.ozpolitic.com/green-tax-shift/tony-abbot-science-economics-climate-ch...

Tony Abbott has been moving in opposite directions on the science and economics of climate change. Until as recently as 2009 Abbott was one of our most extreme climate sceptics.

In my other thread - I continue to tell FD to listen to the interview.

FD tells us time and time again that FD has listened to the interview

This thread is further evidence that FD not only didn't listen to the interview but failed to understand the overall context. FD is deliberately pushing misinformation

The first 2 sentence is evidence of this

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Moving in the opposite direction of the science and economics. Facts are the science is not settled. Abbott specifically said in the interview that the science is not settled. If the science is not settled then how can economic modelling be done? So if economic modelling cannot be done accurately then how can you accurately make a statement that Abbott's moving away in the opposite direct if you are not even sure where you have started

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Note how FD is using the word "extreme climate sceptic". The climate have been changing for 4.6 billion years. No one is disputing this. So FD's usage of the words "climate sceptic" is deliberately trying to say Abbott does not think the weather changes everyday.

So even in the first two sentences of FD's opening post he/she has lied, spread misinformation and contradict the references he/she posted then what is the value of the rest of the post??

over to you FD

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Re: Abbott's Science and Economics of Climate Change
Reply #44 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 10:03am

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 7:32pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 6:25pm:

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Abbotts policy as opposition leader has always been direct action.

Well done. You have found yet another way to restate the time frame.

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I know where you are going

Feel free to jump ahead.

Answering my questions without riddles would be better. Ill leave this hread to you and jump in occasionally to fix it.

Longy if you are confused about something just ask. I cannot answer a question if you don't post it.

Where do you think I am going with this? Do you think I have some kind of secret agenda?

Do you agree with Abbott's recent stance on the science? Which Abbott do you believe? 2009 Abbott, 2011 Abbott, or the yet to be determined 2015 Abbott?

If Abbott did the exact same thing as Julia for the exact same reasons, would you blame the Greens and not Abbott?

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