Australian Politics Forum - Do you want gay marriages

greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 139146 Gender:	Re: Do you want gay marriages Reply #165 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 10:22pm Peter Freedman wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 9:23pm: No, Greg, I think your name is Wally and you work at keeping the rest of us entertained. This is the real me:
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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: Do you want gay marriages Reply #166 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 10:51pm The vote is 13/13 How many gay couple are there in Australia that will benefit from this that we need to divide the voters on this issue?
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Luke Fowler

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Reply #167 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 10:53pm

Maqqa wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 2:54am:

This is not a debate about if you think it's right or wrong

Currently we don't have gay marriages. A change in the law would benefit the voters

So do you want gay marriages?

If you vote yes - how does it change you or the ability to feed and clothed your family

If no - then you've voted for the status quo.

I vote no gay marriages

It does not impact me so why should I vote yes?

Must I vote yes to everything that does not impact me because someone is going to call me names?

If the Greens believe in this sooooo strongly - let them make this their election centre-piece

If Wong believes in this soooo strongly - let her make this the centre-piece at the next election

No political party will do it!!!

Not even the Greens.

Gay marriages is a second thought now because the Greens leader is not gay!!

Moral disapproval in the absence of any other harm cannot, and should not, be the basis for a prohibitive law.

The issue is one of liberty, not whether or not it affects you.

If a group in society is being deprived of a certain right, no matter how dim your view of that group, I cannot see how you can agree with this ban and still purport to stand for liberty.

To see an issue like this with clarity you need to ask yourself some simple questions.

Pretend you do not yet know what the right to be granted is and to whom it is to be granted to; then ask yourself:

Would the granting of this right cause any actual harm other than to offend?

If the answer is no, could I in good conscience stand against it?

If the answer is yes, does this mean that I should also stand for the suppression of offensive speech, offensive art or offensive opinions to be ideologically consistent?

It should be pretty straightforward for you from there.

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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Re: Do you want gay marriages Reply #168 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 10:57pm greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 10:22pm: Peter Freedman wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 9:23pm: No, Greg, I think your name is Wally and you work at keeping the rest of us entertained. This is the real me: If that is you. The first thing I would do is sack the people who made that video for you.
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Reply #169 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 10:59pm

Chimp_Logic wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 10:18pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 9:41pm:

The Bible is clear:

Leviticus 20:13

Quote:

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman,
both of them have committed an abomination:
they shall surely be put to death;
their blood shall be upon them

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You quote from the Old Testament or Torah - a collection of barbaric immoral insanities.

The Gospels is a direct rejection of the barbarisms that underpin the Old Testament

SO when you say THE BIBLE - I am not sure what you mean

Rubbish - you stupid chimp - haven't read your bible.

Jesus said:
Quote:

"It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid." (Luke 16:17 NAB)

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john_g Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1549 Gender:	Re: Do you want gay marriages Reply #170 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 11:04pm Bobby, don't you vote Greens?
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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 106473 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Do you want gay marriages Reply #171 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 11:06pm john_g wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 11:04pm: Bobby, don't you vote Greens? Last time I did & the time before was for Kev 07. why?
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john_g Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1549 Gender:	Re: Do you want gay marriages Reply #172 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 11:09pm Because you seem a bit homophobic, and the Greens are by far the most pro-gay party.
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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 106473 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Do you want gay marriages Reply #173 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 11:11pm john_g wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 11:09pm: Because you seem a bit homophobic, and the Greens are by far the most pro-gay party. You reckon? well I've never been called that before.
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corporate_whitey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8896 Archivist	Re: Do you want gay marriages Reply #174 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 11:11pm We need a strong standing army in our cities and suburbs to confront the rising tide of libertarian anti Government forces, individualists, domestic terrorism and outlar motorcycle gangs...
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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 106473 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Do you want gay marriages Reply #175 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 11:13pm corporate_whitey wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 11:11pm: We need a strong standing army in our cities and suburbs to confront the rising tide of libertarian anti Government forces, individualists, domestic terrorism and outlar motorcycle gangs... You forgot to add: rapists , murderers, thieves, burglars & homos.
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corporate_whitey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8896 Archivist	Re: Do you want gay marriages Reply #176 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 11:29pm Domestic terrorism and anti statism is the great threat of our times...
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corporate_whitey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8896 Archivist	Re: Do you want gay marriages Reply #177 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 11:41pm I am particularly concerned with the rising tide of neo liberalism, individualists and libertarians that threaten legitimate Government and the existence of the state with anarchy...
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Reply #178 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 11:46pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 11:41pm:

I am particularly concerned with the rising tide of neo liberalism, individualists and libertarians that threaten legitimate Government and the existence of the state with anarchy...

You make it sound like under my bed is full of reds.

How am I suppose to go to sleep now.

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corporate_whitey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8896 Archivist	Re: Do you want gay marriages Reply #179 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 11:53pm These are dangerous times, the infrastructure of banking, Government and law and order is threatened by groups that are essentially domestic terrorists openly waging propaganda wars against the functional legitimacy of Government, even politicians themselves are not immune from it...
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Question: Do you want gay marriages
Yes 39 (50.0%) No 39 (50.0%) Total votes: 78 « Created by: Maqqa on: Apr 1^st, 2013 at 2:54am »