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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 106557 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Do you want gay marriages Reply #345 - May 31^st, 2015 at 11:47am Bring back laws against buggery. Society needs to be cleaned up from perverts who homosexualise each other's backsides.
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Reply #346 - May 31^st, 2015 at 12:11pm

Karnal wrote on May 30^th, 2015 at 5:59pm:

Soren wrote on May 30^th, 2015 at 3:52pm:

Rev Dr Michael Jensen, rector at St Mark’s Anglican Church, Darling Point, says there are reasons to oppose same-sex marriage that aren’t bigotry:

There are those in favour of change, we are told, and then there are the bigots. But simply saying “it’s time” doesn’t make an argument. Neither does the need to keep up with the O’Haras, the Smiths, and the Pedersens… It is not even the case that “all the surveys say Australians want it” is a sufficient argument. The surveys say that Australians want capital punishment. Wisely, our politicians don’t listen to surveys on that issue (and I agree with them). They should exercise leadership, not follow opinion.

Could it be that if you haven’t heard the case opposing a change to the marriage law, it is because the language of those advocating it has been so emotive that the contrary case can’t be heard above the noise? ...

In order to offer the status of marriage to couples of the same sex, the very meaning of marriage has to be changed. In which case, what same-sex couples will have will not be the same as what differently sexed couples now have. It will be called marriage, but it won’t be marriage as we know it. It won’t be “marriage equality”: it will be an entirely new thing.

This is where Bill Shorten again misunderstands what marriage is. As we now understand it, marriage is not merely the expression of a love people have for each other. It is, or is intended as, a life-long union between two people who exemplify the biological duality of the human race, with the openness to welcoming children into the world. Even when children do not arrive, the differentiated twoness of marriage indicates its inherent structure.

Now, I didn’t pluck this definition from the sky, nor is it simply a piece of religious teaching. It is the meaning of marriage that emerges from all human cultures as they reflect on and experience what it is to be male and female. It is only in the last 15 years that anyone has seriously thought differently.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-28/jensen-i-oppose-same-sex-marriage-and-no-i...

Good to see you keeping up with the latest Queer Theorists, dear boy.

You talk as if 'gay theory' was serious or worth knowing.

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Reply #347 - May 31^st, 2015 at 12:36pm

Stratos wrote on May 31^st, 2015 at 11:32am:

Grendel wrote on May 31^st, 2015 at 11:23am:

So changing one of the Cornerstones of human society is "nothing" or a "non-issue"? Really?

We've changed marriage in the past before, very drastically. Do you have an issue with previous changes to marriage law?

Which previous change(s) are you referring to?

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In the fullness of time...

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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: Do you want gay marriages Reply #348 - May 31^st, 2015 at 12:41pm ... wrote on May 31^st, 2015 at 12:36pm: Which previous change(s) are you referring to? Any. If the argument is about changing marriage then it shouldn't matter.
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Reply #349 - May 31^st, 2015 at 12:43pm

Grendel wrote on May 31^st, 2015 at 11:23am:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on May 30^th, 2015 at 9:41am:

John_Taverner wrote on May 30^th, 2015 at 9:39am:

This is one big yawn.

Personally? No. The wife and I are happy enough with the marriage we have.

For gay people? OK why not? Just stop talking about it already.

My sentiments exactly.... this entire non-issue generates far too much hot air over nothing real.

So changing one of the Cornerstones of human society is "nothing" or a "non-issue"? Really?
Cheesy

So far we have Trolling by the usual suspect and a factless claim... Cheesy

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Life_goes_on Gold Member Offline Posts: 4772 400kms south of Yobsville, Qld Gender:	Re: Do you want gay marriages Reply #350 - May 31^st, 2015 at 1:07pm I'm unsure how it's all supposed to work if it does get passed? Are all of us in heterosexual marriages suddenly divorced? Do we get assigned a same sex partner, or do we have to go out and find our own? Will there be a public information campaign? Will there be courses available? like at TAFE or somewhere?
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Reply #351 - May 31^st, 2015 at 2:00pm

Grendel wrote on May 31^st, 2015 at 12:43pm:

Grendel wrote on May 31^st, 2015 at 11:23am:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on May 30^th, 2015 at 9:41am:

John_Taverner wrote on May 30^th, 2015 at 9:39am:

This is one big yawn.

Personally? No. The wife and I are happy enough with the marriage we have.

For gay people? OK why not? Just stop talking about it already.

My sentiments exactly.... this entire non-issue generates far too much hot air over nothing real.

So changing one of the Cornerstones of human society is "nothing" or a "non-issue"? Really?
Cheesy

So far we have Trolling by the usual suspect and a factless claim... Cheesy

It's only a big thing IF you change that cornerstone... discussing changing it to suit a minority that doesn't currently fit is meaningless. It's hardly life and death....

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Reply #352 - May 31^st, 2015 at 6:05pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on May 31^st, 2015 at 2:00pm:

Grendel wrote on May 31^st, 2015 at 12:43pm:

Grendel wrote on May 31^st, 2015 at 11:23am:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on May 30^th, 2015 at 9:41am:

John_Taverner wrote on May 30^th, 2015 at 9:39am:

This is one big yawn.

Personally? No. The wife and I are happy enough with the marriage we have.

For gay people? OK why not? Just stop talking about it already.

My sentiments exactly.... this entire non-issue generates far too much hot air over nothing real.

So changing one of the Cornerstones of human society is "nothing" or a "non-issue"? Really?
Cheesy

So far we have Trolling by the usual suspect and a factless claim... Cheesy

It's only a big thing IF you change that cornerstone... discussing changing it to suit a minority that doesn't currently fit is meaningless. It's hardly life and death....

The fact you don't understand that it is changing that Cornerstone is a worry... Roll Eyes

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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: Do you want gay marriages Reply #353 - May 31^st, 2015 at 6:26pm Marriage has been changed a bunch of times already in Australian history. Society has been better for every single one of them, and I fail to see why letting people with the same gender get married will cause any harm.
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Reply #354 - May 31^st, 2015 at 6:26pm

mothra wrote on May 29^th, 2015 at 10:21pm:

damien wrote on May 29^th, 2015 at 10:11pm:

I just waiting to hear the news when two female homosexuals can procreate with themselves. Even Bob Brown and his partner haven't been successful!

Lots of straight couples can't procreate with themselves either.

What's your argument?

Perhaps not - but they were designed to. Not like two homos humping away at each other.

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Reply #355 - May 31^st, 2015 at 6:29pm

damien wrote on May 31^st, 2015 at 6:26pm:

mothra wrote on May 29^th, 2015 at 10:21pm:

damien wrote on May 29^th, 2015 at 10:11pm:

I just waiting to hear the news when two female homosexuals can procreate with themselves. Even Bob Brown and his partner haven't been successful!

Lots of straight couples can't procreate with themselves either.

What's your argument?

Perhaps not - but they were designed to. Not like two homos humping away at each other.

Disgusting sort of talk as usual Damien!

Typical of religious nut!

People should be able to marry whoever they like, I even saw in the paper a man married his son in the uSA.

Are you still in that religious sect in Newcastle old failed union man?

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damien Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 639 Gender:	Re: Do you want gay marriages Reply #356 - May 31^st, 2015 at 6:31pm Homo is the genus of hominids that includes modern humans and species closely related to them. Phobia is a fear of something. So homophobia means feat of the genus of hominids - or fear of humans. It has NOTHING to do as some try to make out. It is not a fear of homosexuals at all!
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Reply #357 - May 31^st, 2015 at 6:34pm

damien wrote on May 31^st, 2015 at 6:31pm:

Homo is the genus of hominids that includes modern humans and species closely related to them.

Phobia is a fear of something.

So homophobia means feat of the genus of hominids - or fear of humans. It has NOTHING to do as some try to make out. It is not a fear of homosexuals at all!

The usual blah, blah blah from Damien (or is it Jarrod) of the religious right!

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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: Do you want gay marriages Reply #358 - May 31^st, 2015 at 6:35pm homosexualophobia doesn't have the same ring to it. edit: also, google (somewhat ironically) what homophone is
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Redmond Neck Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 21690 ACT Gender:	Re: Do you want gay marriages Reply #359 - May 31^st, 2015 at 6:37pm Dont worry about Damo, he gets his kicks at the gym looking at the pole dancing girls and abusing single mothers on forums.
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