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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: Do you want gay marriages Reply #495 - Jun 4^th, 2015 at 1:23pm Stratos wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 1:17pm: Honky, what is your definition of "genuine rape" versus whatever other kind of rape you think exists? Look it up. Unlke the gay marriage fanatics, I don't make up my own definitions.
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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: Do you want gay marriages Reply #496 - Jun 4^th, 2015 at 1:29pm I've never heard of such a thing. I dunno, maybe only rape apologists like you know the lingo?
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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: Do you want gay marriages Reply #497 - Jun 4^th, 2015 at 1:36pm Stratos wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 1:29pm: I've never heard of such a thing. I dunno, maybe only rape apologists like you know the lingo? You've never heard of rape? That's funny, because you were the one that brought it up, and you're using the word freely. If you wish to know more - as I said - look it up.
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Raven Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2981 Around	Re: Do you want gay marriages Reply #498 - Jun 4^th, 2015 at 1:37pm Marital "rape" Because no really means yes
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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: Do you want gay marriages Reply #499 - Jun 4^th, 2015 at 1:38pm On one side I've got a dude saying he's never heard of a topic he introduced, and on the other I've got a guy saying gay marriage isn't a change. I'm starting to notice a pattern about the intelligence and honesty of gay marriage supporters.
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Reply #500 - Jun 4^th, 2015 at 1:39pm

Stratos wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 11:37am:

... wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 11:32am:

How has it changed?

Most recent one I think was in the 90's, when marital rape was finally considered a crime throughout Australia. Before that certain people required permission to get married.

In the past , women surrendered all their belongings to their husband upon getting wed.

Which definition of marriage do you think is the "traditional" one?

Good grief and how is "marital rape" and integral part of marriage and why would homosexuals
1/ think it was or 2/ advocate for it?

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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: Do you want gay marriages Reply #501 - Jun 4^th, 2015 at 1:46pm Honky, you brough up the topic of "genuine" rape, which you seem to have ignored. I specifically asked you for your definition and you didn't give it. So please, continue.
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Reply #502 - Jun 4^th, 2015 at 1:49pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 1:39pm:

Good grief and how is "marital rape" and integral part of marriage

We changed the law regarding something to do with marriage, changing the definition of what a marriage is.

Grendel wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 1:39pm:

2/ advocate for it?

Nobody is advocating for it (except Honky bizarrely)

The point is we changed marriage for the better.

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Reply #503 - Jun 4^th, 2015 at 1:58pm

Stratos wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 1:46pm:

Honky, you brough up the topic of "genuine" rape, which you seem to have ignored. I specifically asked you for your definition and you didn't give it.

So please, continue.

What's to continue with? Look up the word "rape" and this whole facetious line of irrelevant questioning ceases. Anything to avoid the topic eh?

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Reply #504 - Jun 4^th, 2015 at 2:04pm

Stratos wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 1:49pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 1:39pm:

Good grief and how is "marital rape" and integral part of marriage

We changed the law regarding something to do with marriage, changing the definition of what a marriage is.

Nope... liar liar pants on fire, rape has never been part of the Australian marriage act... care to post a quote? Care to show how your claim has changed the definition of marriage?

Grendel wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 1:39pm:

2/ advocate for it?

Nobody is advocating for it (except Honky bizarrely)

The point is we changed marriage for the better.

See above.

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Reply #505 - Jun 4^th, 2015 at 2:20pm

No it wasn't part of the marriage act, but nonetheless it changed what marriage is.

With the introduction of the new laws, marriage went from a relationship where you could commit rape against your partner with no consequences, to one where that was a crime.

SURELY you see that this is a change.

Everyone seems to think it was a good change too, except for Honky.

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Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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Reply #506 - Jun 4^th, 2015 at 2:28pm

Stratos wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 2:20pm:

No it wasn't part of the marriage act, but nonetheless it changed what marriage is.

No it didn't. It's tinkering round the edges, not fundamentally altering it's fabric.

It's similar to the rule reviews they have in football every year - they make a few small adjustments of the interpretations of some rules, but it's still football.

Stratos wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 2:20pm:

Everyone seems to think it was a good change too, except for Honky.

It wasn't perfect. In addressing one problem, it created a new one, as I already outlined. The changes certainly affect more people than the old one did. The question is, is it better to affect 10 people severely, or 1000 people moderately?

Too nuanced for you? I'll bet.

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Reply #507 - Jun 4^th, 2015 at 4:10pm

You probably thought, as I did, that last week’s same sex marriage referendum in Ireland was carried by an overwhelming 62 per cent vote majority in support of changing the constitution.

In fact, only 34 per cent of the adult population voted in support of the measure. There are 3.52 million Irish citizens of voting age, and 66 per cent of them did not vote “yes”. Two-thirds of the adult population either voted “no”, or did not vote, or did not register to vote.

I did not see that mentioned in any of the media’s coverage… While there was a clear majority in support for change among those who did bother to vote, the failure to even acknowledge that this was only a third of the adult population reflects what I think has become the media’s obsessive front-running, cheerleading and push-polling around this issue…

Almost 40 per cent of the electorate did not vote in the referendum, another 300,000 adults were unregistered, and voter participation last weekend was much lower than the average for general elections over the past 60 years.
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/mixed-message-from-samesex-marriage-debate-2015060...

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Reply #508 - Jun 4^th, 2015 at 4:27pm

Soren wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 4:10pm:

You probably thought, as I did, that last week’s same sex marriage referendum in Ireland was carried by an overwhelming 62 per cent vote majority in support of changing the constitution.

In fact, only 34 per cent of the adult population voted in support of the measure. There are 3.52 million Irish citizens of voting age, and 66 per cent of them did not vote “yes”. Two-thirds of the adult population either voted “no”, or did not vote, or did not register to vote.

I did not see that mentioned in any of the media’s coverage… While there was a clear majority in support for change among those who did bother to vote, the failure to even acknowledge that this was only a third of the adult population reflects what I think has become the media’s obsessive front-running, cheerleading and push-polling around this issue…

Almost 40 per cent of the electorate did not vote in the referendum, another 300,000 adults were unregistered, and voter participation last weekend was much lower than the average for general elections over the past 60 years.
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/mixed-message-from-samesex-marriage-debate-2015060...

I guess that means a lot of people did not care which way it went.

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Reply #509 - Jun 4^th, 2015 at 4:49pm

Stratos wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 2:20pm:

No it wasn't part of the marriage act, but nonetheless it changed what marriage is.

No it didn't do you think that men or women married expecting to be raped or to rape?

With the introduction of the new laws, marriage went from a relationship where you could commit rape against your partner with no consequences, to one where that was a crime.

Oh puhlease... pull the other one what person in their right mind would enter into a commitment to rape or be raped? You are just being ridiculous.

SURELY you see that this is a change.

A criminal act is a criminal act... rape is a criminal act, not part of the marriage act.

Everyone seems to think it was a good change too, except for Honky.

Now you add personal ridicule to your spurious claims.

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