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Reply #525 - Jun 4^th, 2015 at 10:29pm

Agnes wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 10:00pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 9:05pm:

A very short-ish answer from me - no I don't.

I dont have an issue with gay people. They can have relationships all they like, I also support their partner having the same legal reights as a de-facto regular couple.

I would ask they show a bit of decorum in public - but I would rather that across the board too.

I do believe though that the institution of marriage should be for a man and a woman.

I am ok for civil partnerships where a certificate can also be produced - but not a marriage.

I used to be of this opinion too but as I had a very close friend who was gay and I saw the love he had for his partener- it was not a seedy version of love- its wasn't a pretend game they were playing- they really were in love- and when his partner died he was cut very deeply and didnt partener ever again- he then died. He wanted to marry his partner and I realised he wanted to be married for the same reason anyone else does- it was a union he wanted recognised by law because he loved his partner - and wanted the same protections marriage afforded them as a couple-

The only concerns I have still about gay marriage is concerning children and that is only because of the stereotypical notion/concerns that most gay men are also peadophiles- someone corrtect me on that one..I want you too.

I voted in favour of gay marriage.

Oh puhlease... being in love with someone doesn't give you the right to marry them nor does it naturally follow that they will want to marry you.
Marriage is about more than just love. Roll Eyes

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Reply #526 - Jun 4^th, 2015 at 11:02pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 10:29pm:

Agnes wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 10:00pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 9:05pm:

A very short-ish answer from me - no I don't.

I dont have an issue with gay people. They can have relationships all they like, I also support their partner having the same legal reights as a de-facto regular couple.

I would ask they show a bit of decorum in public - but I would rather that across the board too.

I do believe though that the institution of marriage should be for a man and a woman.

I am ok for civil partnerships where a certificate can also be produced - but not a marriage.

I used to be of this opinion too but as I had a very close friend who was gay and I saw the love he had for his partener- it was not a seedy version of love- its wasn't a pretend game they were playing- they really were in love- and when his partner died he was cut very deeply and didnt partener ever again- he then died. He wanted to marry his partner and I realised he wanted to be married for the same reason anyone else does- it was a union he wanted recognised by law because he loved his partner - and wanted the same protections marriage afforded them as a couple-

The only concerns I have still about gay marriage is concerning children and that is only because of the stereotypical notion/concerns that most gay men are also peadophiles- someone corrtect me on that one..I want you too.

I voted in favour of gay marriage.

Oh puhlease... being in love with someone doesn't give you the right to marry them nor does it naturally follow that they will want to marry you.
Marriage is about more than just love. Roll Eyes

I agree, Grendel. Love is when you swallow.

Marriage is when you wash your bottom.

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Reply #527 - Jun 5^th, 2015 at 6:34am

Stratos wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 10:17pm:

issuevoter wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 10:10pm:

Gay is not one thing, its a myriad of weird predilections, check out their literature and websites.

Yeah, because straight people never ever have "weird predilections" no siree never.

Metaphorically, you see homo-hetero as two sides of a coin. Both as normal behaviour. I do not. I see men and woman as two sides of the coin. And the complex Gay world as an aberration.

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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: Do you want gay marriages Reply #528 - Jun 5^th, 2015 at 7:37am issuevoter wrote on Jun 5^th, 2015 at 6:34am: And the complex Gay world as an aberration. You didn't actually address any of what I just said by the way. Maybe stop trawling the internet for gay websites to get your views and you might meet some gay people you relate with?
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Reply #529 - Jun 5^th, 2015 at 8:28am

Stratos wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 9:57pm:

Soren wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 9:44pm:

Homosexuality is a societal dead end. Heterosexuality is not. You will never legislate away the difference . Biology trumps law.

And that is why after millions of years of natural selection we don't have gay people anymore.

Owait

It is not the only persistent aberration, pal.

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Reply #530 - Jun 5^th, 2015 at 8:31am

Aussie wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 4:27pm:

Soren wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 4:10pm:

You probably thought, as I did, that last week’s same sex marriage referendum in Ireland was carried by an overwhelming 62 per cent vote majority in support of changing the constitution.

In fact, only 34 per cent of the adult population voted in support of the measure. There are 3.52 million Irish citizens of voting age, and 66 per cent of them did not vote “yes”. Two-thirds of the adult population either voted “no”, or did not vote, or did not register to vote.

I did not see that mentioned in any of the media’s coverage… While there was a clear majority in support for change among those who did bother to vote, the failure to even acknowledge that this was only a third of the adult population reflects what I think has become the media’s obsessive front-running, cheerleading and push-polling around this issue…

Almost 40 per cent of the electorate did not vote in the referendum, another 300,000 adults were unregistered, and voter participation last weekend was much lower than the average for general elections over the past 60 years.
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/mixed-message-from-samesex-marriage-debate-2015060...

I guess that means a lot of people did not care which way it went.

It also means that there is no evidence for majority support for gay weddings in Ireland.

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Grappler Deep State Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 85148 Always was always will be HOME Gender:	Re: Do you want gay marriages Reply #531 - Jun 5^th, 2015 at 8:53am Hold it, lads! Chrissie has stepped in and he vows it will be sorted out! https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/28346381/gay-marriage-will-be-dealt-with-pyne/ No need to panic just yet.... Plebiscite.. plebiscite... Power To the People...
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 139092 Gender:	Re: Do you want gay marriages Reply #532 - Jun 5^th, 2015 at 8:58am Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 9:05pm: I do believe though that the institution of marriage should be for a man and a woman. Why is that?
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Reply #533 - Jun 5^th, 2015 at 9:05am

Soren wrote on Jun 5^th, 2015 at 8:28am:

Stratos wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 9:57pm:

Soren wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 9:44pm:

Homosexuality is a societal dead end. Heterosexuality is not. You will never legislate away the difference . Biology trumps law.

And that is why after millions of years of natural selection we don't have gay people anymore.

Owait

It is not the only persistent aberration, pal.

There’s quite a few stool fanciers, innit.

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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: Do you want gay marriages Reply #534 - Jun 5^th, 2015 at 9:09am So homosexuality both persistent and yet a biological dead end. Maybe you need to rethink it Soren.
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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Do you want gay marriages Reply #535 - Jun 5^th, 2015 at 9:14am greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 5^th, 2015 at 8:58am: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 9:05pm: I do believe though that the institution of marriage should be for a man and a woman. Why is that? Oi! Where have you been? Was getting kinda worried here.
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96385	Re: Do you want gay marriages Reply #536 - Jun 5^th, 2015 at 9:14am Stratos wrote on Jun 5^th, 2015 at 9:09am: So homosexuality both persistent and yet a biological dead end. Maybe you need to rethink it Soren. Oh, he thinks about it all the time.
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Reply #537 - Jun 5^th, 2015 at 9:17am

issuevoter wrote on Jun 5^th, 2015 at 6:34am:

Stratos wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 10:17pm:

issuevoter wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 10:10pm:

Gay is not one thing, its a myriad of weird predilections, check out their literature and websites.

Yeah, because straight people never ever have "weird predilections" no siree never.

Metaphorically, you see homo-hetero as two sides of a coin. Both as normal behaviour. I do not. I see men and woman as two sides of the coin. And the complex Gay world as an aberration.

A lot of people (including myself) would agree with you.

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Reply #538 - Jun 5^th, 2015 at 9:25am

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 5:04pm:

Raven wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 1:37pm:

Marital "rape"

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/01/21/article-2543306-0850EEAE000005DC-315_6...

Because no really means yes

A highly emotive , biased, and obviously posed photograph - in other words this is propaganda pure and simple and is dedicated to the absolute myth that men are beasts. It is clearly not a reflection of the very vast majority of marriages in any way.

A wise woman understands that a man builds a load every day, and needs it released - is it too much to ask for something easy and simple without being called a rapist?

The alternative is to turn a blind eye to extramarital affairs.

Humanism - the startling philosophy that men are humans and actually have rights!

Sits back, cracks a stubbie, grabs a handful of ALDI cashews, and awaits the clown who'll inevitably come in here and say that even suggesting that men have rights means I'm saying men have rights to rape.. not in what I've written.. but some love that kind of mental confusion in themselves...

A wise man would also understand that a woman's load OF WASHING increases every time she said yes to said man.

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Reply #539 - Jun 5^th, 2015 at 9:32am

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 5^th, 2015 at 9:14am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 5^th, 2015 at 8:58am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 9:05pm:

I do believe though that the institution of marriage should be for a man and a woman.

Why is that?

Oi! Where have you been?

Was getting kinda worried here. Tongue

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