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Re: Do you want gay marriages
Reply #75 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 12:09pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 12:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 12:03pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 11:33am:

Does someone stop being Australian when they live somewhere else?

Is Nicole Kidman Australian?
Keith Urban?
Clive James?
Kylie Minogue?

They are all not Aussies John?

I've never seen Nicole, Keith Clive or Kylie betray Australia the way you do ... anytime they speak Australia it's to talk it up, not put it down. You could learn a thing or two from them ... the arrogance that you think you are anything like them.

I'm just giving you examples of people we both know who don't live in Australia.

Now Keith Urban is born in Australia (like me) and for work reasons lives in the USA (like me).
Pretty sure he is entitled to give his views on how Australia is run (like me).

when was the last time you saw him talk down Australia?

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Re: Do you want gay marriages
Reply #76 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 12:11pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 9:57am:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 9:02am:

Maqqa wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 8:59am:

John Smith wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 8:57am:

Maqqa wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 8:52am:

Infarction wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 7:55am:

What on earth does the ability to feed my family have to do with my views on a social issue such as this?

What a ridiculous attempt at an argument maqqa. You have outdone yourself this time.

Because what it comes down to is the individual family unit

Most people are more worried about cost of living

So lets vote on the issue based on that and see if we get a majority

now you want to dictate why people should vote for something? If you are merely concerned for your family unit, you go for it, but many others, myself included, don't see this as having anything to do with my family unit .. as far as I'm concerned this is a social issue and one of equality ... as such I'll vote accordingly.

Is that the Greens agenda?

They want to dictate?

David Cameron is a member of the Greens? Grin

..good one Maqqa Grin

David Cameron is one more of these decisions away from losing my vote.

A South African living in America gets to vote in the UK?

How does that work, Andrei?

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Re: Do you want gay marriages
Reply #77 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 12:31pm

IPeter Freedman wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 12:11pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 9:57am:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 9:02am:

Maqqa wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 8:59am:

John Smith wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 8:57am:

Maqqa wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 8:52am:

Infarction wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 7:55am:

What on earth does the ability to feed my family have to do with my views on a social issue such as this?

What a ridiculous attempt at an argument maqqa. You have outdone yourself this time.

Because what it comes down to is the individual family unit

Most people are more worried about cost of living

So lets vote on the issue based on that and see if we get a majority

now you want to dictate why people should vote for something? If you are merely concerned for your family unit, you go for it, but many others, myself included, don't see this as having anything to do with my family unit .. as far as I'm concerned this is a social issue and one of equality ... as such I'll vote accordingly.

Is that the Greens agenda?

They want to dictate?

David Cameron is a member of the Greens? Grin

..good one Maqqa Grin

David Cameron is one more of these decisions away from losing my vote.

A South African living in America gets to vote in the UK?

How does that work, Andrei?

Because I am not South African.
Am a British citizen and removed myself from the AU roll?

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Re: Do you want gay marriages
Reply #78 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 12:33pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 12:31pm:

IPeter Freedman wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 12:11pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 9:57am:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 9:02am:

Maqqa wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 8:59am:

John Smith wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 8:57am:

Maqqa wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 8:52am:

Infarction wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 7:55am:

What on earth does the ability to feed my family have to do with my views on a social issue such as this?

What a ridiculous attempt at an argument maqqa. You have outdone yourself this time.

Because what it comes down to is the individual family unit

Most people are more worried about cost of living

So lets vote on the issue based on that and see if we get a majority

now you want to dictate why people should vote for something? If you are merely concerned for your family unit, you go for it, but many others, myself included, don't see this as having anything to do with my family unit .. as far as I'm concerned this is a social issue and one of equality ... as such I'll vote accordingly.

Is that the Greens agenda?

They want to dictate?

David Cameron is a member of the Greens? Grin

..good one Maqqa Grin

David Cameron is one more of these decisions away from losing my vote.

A South African living in America gets to vote in the UK?

How does that work, Andrei?

Because I am not South African.
Am a British citizen and removed myself from the AU roll?

Yeah. you removed yourself from the au roll and the only way to do that is to give up your citizenship so i was right and you didnt answer me because of it.

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Re: Do you want gay marriages
Reply #79 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 12:36pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 12:33pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 12:31pm:

IPeter Freedman wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 12:11pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 9:57am:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 9:02am:

Maqqa wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 8:59am:

John Smith wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 8:57am:

Maqqa wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 8:52am:

Infarction wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 7:55am:

What on earth does the ability to feed my family have to do with my views on a social issue such as this?

What a ridiculous attempt at an argument maqqa. You have outdone yourself this time.

Because what it comes down to is the individual family unit

Most people are more worried about cost of living

So lets vote on the issue based on that and see if we get a majority

now you want to dictate why people should vote for something? If you are merely concerned for your family unit, you go for it, but many others, myself included, don't see this as having anything to do with my family unit .. as far as I'm concerned this is a social issue and one of equality ... as such I'll vote accordingly.

Is that the Greens agenda?

They want to dictate?

David Cameron is a member of the Greens? Grin

..good one Maqqa Grin

David Cameron is one more of these decisions away from losing my vote.

A South African living in America gets to vote in the UK?

How does that work, Andrei?

Because I am not South African.
Am a British citizen and removed myself from the AU roll?

Yeah. you removed yourself from the au roll and the only way to do that is to give up your citizenship so i was right and you didnt answer me because of it.

SOB

As with most other things (which why everyone thinks you are an idiot) - you are wrong.

You can't be on 2 electoral rolls anywhere.

I am a UK citizen and an Australian citizen.

You simply pick which you want to be on.
You dont give up anything.

Understand things before commenting please.

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26513 Australia	Re: Do you want gay marriages Reply #80 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 12:40pm Voting is compulsory for aussie citizens Besides you CHOSE to give up the aussie right to vote according to yourself you have no right to comment on anything political in this country. SOB
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Re: Do you want gay marriages
Reply #81 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 12:41pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 12:08pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 11:31am:

Cutting grants on research into shale oil fracking processes, cutting grants into P3 tax credits on innovative energy delivery, cutting grants into upstream process refinement - all of which result in better processes in the Australian sector is not welfare!!!!!!

Those grants are intrinsic into energy delivery in Australia.

Cutting them for a short term political surplus is disgraceful.

Why would you cut them and force the expense wholesale onto companies?

Because i believe in a market based system ... don't you? if comapnies want the profit they shouldn't expect govt. subsidies .
It is merely your opinion that the results will be better for Australia , not mine ... I think any sort of fracking is bad for the country long term .. they should never let companies do it let alone give them money to do so ... you want better processes in Australia, move away from oil and gas based energy supply and move onto newer technologies ... then you can claim to have Australias interests at heart ... you are just worried about the few million $$$ your comapny stands to make .. don't pretend you care for Australias well being.

It's not opinion.
Results over the last decade -
+ Pollutant loss into the ocean
+ Deeper dive technique and exploration
+ Fracking refinement and lower seisemic echoes
+ Smoother upstream capture

All of that data has improved over the last decade - to the benefit of Australia.
If the Australian Government wants better processes and better energy capture, then it should wear some of the costs.

It's simple common sense.

Australia stands to gain hugely from process improvements.

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Do you want gay marriages Reply #82 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 12:42pm Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 12:40pm: Voting is compulsory for aussie citizens SOB Relevance anywhere to anything? Voting is not compulsory to people not on the roll. Dual citizens have to pick which roll to be on - I am on the UK. So again, idiot, I am still an Australian citizen.
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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Do you want gay marriages Reply #83 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 12:43pm Still waiting for you to enlighten me why Keith Urban, Nicole Kidman, Clive James, Kylie Minogue are not Aussies spot. Come on, let's hear the genius wisdom....
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Re: Do you want gay marriages
Reply #84 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 12:43pm

Maqqa wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 2:54am:

This is not a debate about if you think it's right or wrong

Currently we don't have gay marriages. A change in the law would benefit the voters

So do you want gay marriages?

If you vote yes - how does it change you or the ability to feed and clothed your family

If no - then you've voted for the status quo.

I vote no gay marriages

It does not impact me so why should I vote yes?

Must I vote yes to everything that does not impact me because someone is going to call me names?

If the Greens believe in this sooooo strongly - let them make this their election centre-piece

If Wong believes in this soooo strongly - let her make this the centre-piece at the next election

No political party will do it!!!

Not even the Greens.

Gay marriages is a second thought now because the Greens leader is not gay!!

It may not affect you now but what about when your kid comes to you and says he wants to marry his boyfriend? Would that impact you?

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Re: Do you want gay marriages
Reply #85 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 12:45pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 12:42pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 12:40pm:

Voting is compulsory for aussie citizens

SOB

Relevance anywhere to anything?

Voting is not compulsory to people not on the roll.
Dual citizens have to pick which roll to be on - I am on the UK.

So again, idiot, I am still an Australian citizen.

Well that was some pretty obvious manoeuvring. How about the rest of my post hmmm? Well troll? What makes you think you get to say anything about australian politics if you gave up the right to vote here?

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Re: Do you want gay marriages
Reply #86 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 12:46pm

skippy. wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 12:43pm:

Maqqa wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 2:54am:

This is not a debate about if you think it's right or wrong

Currently we don't have gay marriages. A change in the law would benefit the voters

So do you want gay marriages?

If you vote yes - how does it change you or the ability to feed and clothed your family

If no - then you've voted for the status quo.

I vote no gay marriages

It does not impact me so why should I vote yes?

Must I vote yes to everything that does not impact me because someone is going to call me names?

If the Greens believe in this sooooo strongly - let them make this their election centre-piece

If Wong believes in this soooo strongly - let her make this the centre-piece at the next election

No political party will do it!!!

Not even the Greens.

Gay marriages is a second thought now because the Greens leader is not gay!!

It may not affect you now but what about when your kid comes to you and says he wants to marry his boyfriend? Would that impact you?

Wouldn't affect me.

What my adult children do is their own business.

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Re: Do you want gay marriages
Reply #87 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 12:47pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 12:45pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 12:42pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 12:40pm:

Voting is compulsory for aussie citizens

SOB

Relevance anywhere to anything?

Voting is not compulsory to people not on the roll.
Dual citizens have to pick which roll to be on - I am on the UK.

So again, idiot, I am still an Australian citizen.

Well that was some pretty obvious manoeuvring. How about the rest of my post hmmm? Well troll? What makes you think you get to say anything about australian politics if you gave up the right to vote here?

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Spot tell me how I had to remove myself from Australian citizenship to get off the electoral roll?

Come on, I'd love to hear it.....

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Reply #88 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 12:51pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 12:47pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 12:45pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 12:42pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 12:40pm:

Voting is compulsory for aussie citizens

SOB

Relevance anywhere to anything?

Voting is not compulsory to people not on the roll.
Dual citizens have to pick which roll to be on - I am on the UK.

So again, idiot, I am still an Australian citizen.

Well that was some pretty obvious manoeuvring. How about the rest of my post hmmm? Well troll? What makes you think you get to say anything about australian politics if you gave up the right to vote here?

SOB

Spot tell me how I had to remove myself from Australian citizenship to get off the electoral roll?

Come on, I'd love to hear it.....

Still dont want to acknowledge the rest of the post huh?

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Re: Do you want gay marriages
Reply #89 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 12:52pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 12:46pm:

skippy. wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 12:43pm:

Maqqa wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 2:54am:

This is not a debate about if you think it's right or wrong

Currently we don't have gay marriages. A change in the law would benefit the voters

So do you want gay marriages?

If you vote yes - how does it change you or the ability to feed and clothed your family

If no - then you've voted for the status quo.

I vote no gay marriages

It does not impact me so why should I vote yes?

Must I vote yes to everything that does not impact me because someone is going to call me names?

If the Greens believe in this sooooo strongly - let them make this their election centre-piece

If Wong believes in this soooo strongly - let her make this the centre-piece at the next election

No political party will do it!!!

Not even the Greens.

Gay marriages is a second thought now because the Greens leader is not gay!!

It may not affect you now but what about when your kid comes to you and says he wants to marry his boyfriend? Would that impact you?

Wouldn't affect me.

What my adult children do is their own business.

Good for you. You must mistake me for someone that gives a bugger about your opinion. I don't care if gays get married or not, that's just it, it's none of mine or your business.

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