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Reply #90 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 12:53pm

skippy. wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 12:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 12:46pm:

skippy. wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 12:43pm:

Maqqa wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 2:54am:

This is not a debate about if you think it's right or wrong

Currently we don't have gay marriages. A change in the law would benefit the voters

So do you want gay marriages?

If you vote yes - how does it change you or the ability to feed and clothed your family

If no - then you've voted for the status quo.

I vote no gay marriages

It does not impact me so why should I vote yes?

Must I vote yes to everything that does not impact me because someone is going to call me names?

If the Greens believe in this sooooo strongly - let them make this their election centre-piece

If Wong believes in this soooo strongly - let her make this the centre-piece at the next election

No political party will do it!!!

Not even the Greens.

Gay marriages is a second thought now because the Greens leader is not gay!!

It may not affect you now but what about when your kid comes to you and says he wants to marry his boyfriend? Would that impact you?

Wouldn't affect me.

What my adult children do is their own business.

Good for you. You must mistake me for someone that gives a bugger about your opinion. I don't care if gays get married or not, that's just it, it's none of mine or your business.

Correct. That's exactly why you replied.

Thank you.

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Do you want gay marriages Reply #91 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 12:55pm "Voting is compulsory for aussie citizens SOB" AUSTRALIA I will be unable to vote while I'm overseas, what do I do? It is not compulsory for Australian citizens to enrol and vote while overseas. http://www.aec.gov.au/Enrolling_to_vote/overseas/index.htm Like I said - idiot and as usual has it wrong.
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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Do you want gay marriages Reply #92 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 12:55pm Admit you are wrong whenever you like Spot. Then again, given your current performance in the F111 thread, I won't hold my breath.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 139151 Gender:	Re: Do you want gay marriages Reply #93 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 12:57pm skippy. wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 12:52pm: ... it's none of mine or your business.
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Re: Do you want gay marriages
Reply #95 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 1:37pm

Maqqa wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 2:54am:

This is not a debate about if you think it's right or wrong

Currently we don't have gay marriages. A change in the law would benefit the voters

Not sure how it would, but I'll take your word for it.

So do you want gay marriages?

If it brings happiness to those that do, and really pisses bigots off then 'Yes'.

If you vote yes - how does it change you or the ability to feed and clothed your family

Makes no difference.

If no - then you've voted for the status quo.

Says who? You??

I vote no gay marriages

If as you say above, 'A change in the law would benefit the voters', Why not??

It does not impact me so why should I vote yes?

O.K. Jack!!

Must I vote yes to everything that does not impact me because someone is going to call me names?

Everyone does that now.

If the Greens believe in this sooooo strongly - let them make this their election centre-piece

Whyyyyyyy Notttttt!!

If Wong believes in this soooo strongly - let her make this the centre-piece at the next election

Send her an email. Just might keep you otherwise occupied for a while.

No political party will do it!!!
Not even the Greens.

Give it time!

Gay marriages is a second thought now because the Greens leader is not gay!!

In your, no doubt, honest opinion.

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Reply #96 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 1:41pm

If you don't want gay marriages, don't have one.

In NZ, we were told by conservatives and the Christian churches that civil unions would be the end of civilisation. The institution of marriage would be undermined, they screamed, though none of them could explain why.

The fact that two gay people could have their love for each other publicly recognised didn't impact on my love for my wife or hers for me.

The hysteria of many conservatives over this issue would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

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Reply #97 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 1:47pm

Gay rights advocates have applauded declarations of support for same-sex marriage by Tony Abbott's daughters, saying they hope the remarks will help the Opposition Leader's views ''evolve''.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/abbotts-daughters-back-inevitable-gay-marriage-20130331-2h1dx.html#ixzz2PBD9P2H1
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Why were these girls not more vocal when the matter was to go to a vote in parliament?

Huh

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Reply #98 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 1:47pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 12:31pm:

IPeter Freedman wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 12:11pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 9:57am:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 9:02am:

Maqqa wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 8:59am:

John Smith wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 8:57am:

Maqqa wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 8:52am:

Infarction wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 7:55am:

What on earth does the ability to feed my family have to do with my views on a social issue such as this?

What a ridiculous attempt at an argument maqqa. You have outdone yourself this time.

Because what it comes down to is the individual family unit

Most people are more worried about cost of living

So lets vote on the issue based on that and see if we get a majority

now you want to dictate why people should vote for something? If you are merely concerned for your family unit, you go for it, but many others, myself included, don't see this as having anything to do with my family unit .. as far as I'm concerned this is a social issue and one of equality ... as such I'll vote accordingly.

Is that the Greens agenda?

They want to dictate?

David Cameron is a member of the Greens? Grin

..good one Maqqa Grin

David Cameron is one more of these decisions away from losing my vote.

A South African living in America gets to vote in the UK?

How does that work, Andrei?

Because I am not South African.
Am a British citizen and removed myself from the AU roll?

so you gave up your Australian citizenship?

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Re: Do you want gay marriages
Reply #99 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 1:48pm

Peter Freedman wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 1:41pm:

In NZ, we were told by conservatives and the Christian churches that civil unions would be the end of civilisation. The institution of marriage would be undermined, they screamed, though none of them could explain why.

Exactly.

None of them have an explanation.

"It just will!" Roll Eyes

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Reply #100 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 1:50pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 12:41pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 12:08pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 11:31am:

Cutting grants on research into shale oil fracking processes, cutting grants into P3 tax credits on innovative energy delivery, cutting grants into upstream process refinement - all of which result in better processes in the Australian sector is not welfare!!!!!!

Those grants are intrinsic into energy delivery in Australia.

Cutting them for a short term political surplus is disgraceful.

Why would you cut them and force the expense wholesale onto companies?

Because i believe in a market based system ... don't you? if comapnies want the profit they shouldn't expect govt. subsidies .
It is merely your opinion that the results will be better for Australia , not mine ... I think any sort of fracking is bad for the country long term .. they should never let companies do it let alone give them money to do so ... you want better processes in Australia, move away from oil and gas based energy supply and move onto newer technologies ... then you can claim to have Australias interests at heart ... you are just worried about the few million $$$ your comapny stands to make .. don't pretend you care for Australias well being.

It's not opinion.
Results over the last decade -
+ Pollutant loss into the ocean
+ Deeper dive technique and exploration
+ Fracking refinement and lower seisemic echoes
+ Smoother upstream capture

All of that data has improved over the last decade - to the benefit of Australia.
If the Australian Government wants better processes and better energy capture, then it should wear some of the costs.

It's simple common sense.

Australia stands to gain hugely from process improvements.

why don't you put up some of the negatives? afraid of the truth? ... I understand why you don't care if we have gasses leaking from out water taps, since you don't live here, it doesn't affect you , but I care.

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Re: Do you want gay marriages
Reply #101 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 1:50pm

MOTR wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 9:03am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 7:42am:

MOTR wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 3:59am:

As for the greens, their position hasn't changed. Their wish is still for the legalisation of marriage between two consenting adults regardless of sex, sexuality or gender identity.

The incest lobby couldn't agree more.

If you see no difference between a gay relationship and an incestuous relationship, you shouldn't be left alone with children, chicken lips.

Nor any member of his extended family!!

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Reply #102 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 1:53pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 12:55pm:

"Voting is compulsory for aussie citizens

SOB"

AUSTRALIA

I will be unable to vote while I'm overseas, what do I do?

It is not compulsory for Australian citizens to enrol and vote while overseas.

http://www.aec.gov.au/Enrolling_to_vote/overseas/index.htm

Like I said - idiot and as usual has it wrong.

So by your own admission you have given up your right to vote in aust4ralian elections so why they heck should you be commenting on aussie politics?

SOB

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Re: Do you want gay marriages
Reply #103 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 1:57pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 9:57am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 9:54am:

I can't believe sensible people spend more than 1 second contemplating a pair of poofters playing husband and wife.

If they want to play that nonsense, that's their business.
Come Judgement Day they will have to answer for their depravity.

But sensible, decent societies should play no part in pretending its normal or acceptable.

It also affects such a small minority to be irrelevant.
So tell them no, shut the bugger up, go play your Kylie, wear some women's panties and get over it - in Iran you'd be shot.

Kylie is pretty bad, granted, but being shot is a bit over the top.

Taylor Swift, on the other hand ...

Just for you, Greg...

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Reply #104 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 2:00pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 10:14am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 10:08am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 10:06am:

Way to go outing someone who isn't gay.

Go suggest Natalie is gay in Jerusalem count the seconds you live...

Not a big movie fan, I gather.

Google "Portman Kunis Black Swan".

Roll Eyes

But Natalie Portman is not gay.

So she hasn't been outed, then!!!

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Question: Do you want gay marriages
Yes 39 (50.0%) No 39 (50.0%) Total votes: 78 « Created by: Maqqa on: Apr 1^st, 2013 at 2:54am »