Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Apr 8^th, 2013 at 4:49pm:


That, or just a brain dead response from you.

I'll go the brain dead respose.

Kudos.

FriYAY wrote on Apr 8^th, 2013 at 4:52pm:



So you still believe the western leaders thought Iraq had weapons of mass destruction? Typical.

I saw those old combi vans on the news, sitting in the desert, the ones we were told was part of their mobile chemical laboratories........yeah sure they were.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 11:02am:


2 years max. It's inevitable.

The war in Vietnam was lost because the civilian population were sympathetic to the basic tenets of communist ideology ~ and who could blame them?

Same in Afghanistan, but this time it's loyalty to Islam.

Just the ordinary folk are not outraged when a family kills their daughter for 'allowing' herself to be raped.

Battery acid gets thrown into the face of girls sneaking off to a secret school in one of the back alleys.

Homosexuals and those converting from Islam to Christianity have death fatwas called upon them ~ and the general population believe this to be perfectly just and proper.

There isn't a hope in hell that the Taliban won't take control again. They know they only have to win over - or murder - the village elders in the countryside. Thousands of them.

The message will soon be learnt by everyone that cooperation with the Taliban is better than a personal visit from them to correct your errant attitudes.

Two years max ~ with the idiotic politicians of the Western world pouring zillions of taxpayer dollars into the country as a last resort for resist the inevitable.

Karnal wrote on Apr 8^th, 2013 at 4:56pm:



Have you seen the Blair speech?

It is interesting to see him talk about being a new PM, and having all these ideas/ideals for his country and then…..people start flying planes into buildings in the US.

Saddam had and used WMD on the Kurds, why does everyone brush over that little fact?

mantra wrote on Apr 9^th, 2013 at 11:11am:


How many civilians did the coalition kill as genuine 'collateral damage' ~ as against how many have been killed as a result of direct and intended slaughter between the sectarian bombers?

For as long as it was America and her allies who were doing the killing, the West's leftwing-majority media kept up a constant barrage of condemnation and abuse, but after the withdrawal, and with the killings still continuing ~ but this time by the Iraqis themselves ~ these self-same media organisations have fallen silent because there's no political capital in condemning these Muslim rock apes. 

FriYAY wrote on Apr 9^th, 2013 at 10:21am:


There were No Fly zones in Iraq in the north to protect the kurds and in the south to protect the shia muslims from Saddam.

These no fly zones were setup to stop Saddam killing his Iraqi residents with his air force.

Can any leftist retards say how long were these No Fly Zones in place before Saddam was removed?

FriYAY wrote on Apr 9^th, 2013 at 10:28am:


Tony Blair was the PM of Britain. A few Saudi and British nationals fly planes into the US in 2001, and Bush and Blair want to invade Iraq because Saddam used gas on the Kurds in 1980?

It is always interesting to hear Blair talk, but his judgement on Iraq was wrong. He spent all his political capital encouraging his party to support the invasion of Iraq, and used up his popularity with the British people, who came to see him as a neo-con stooge, not a strong, idealistic leader. He then wasted his good standing with Europe and the UN, and for what?

Blair's failings in Iraq now define his legacy. His vision for a strong, multilateral security force to defeat tyrants was destroyed by his alliance with the US in a pointless, imperialistic war. This is Blair's real failing - not so much the failure of Iraq, but the failure of his vision, which could have been historic.

Just think - the League of Nations and the UN both failed to establish a security force that could establish peace around the world, enforce demilitarization, and prevent world war. After Serbia, and then Rwanda, there was a window of opportunity and political will. This is what drove Blair, and many in the US and UN at the end of the cold war.

If Blair had listened to his own party, his own people, and the UN, he may well have made some progress on this vision. Instead, he followed the agenda of naked US aggression and self-interest. In the end, of course, it wasn't the politics that did him in, but the military failure.

For Blair, Iraq was meant to be the start of a new international "coalition of the willing". This is an age-old European project, going back to the end of the Napoleonic wars and, following WWI, the establishment of the League of Nations. The League failed to get the US to join, and it failed to establish an international security force. Ultimately, it failed to prevent the rise of the Nazis. With the establishment of the EU, the end of the Cold War, the success of the new international court in Brussels, and Clinton's eventual willingness to engage in Serbia, the signs were right.

But then Blair went and joined Bush. He believed, of course, that this favour would be quid-pro-quo, but he was used in the US's own game. When Iraq turned nasty, everyone realized how futile such a project of international peacekeeping through war could really get - and how long. Twelve years on and we're still in Afghanistan.

Blair had a noble objective, but history - and the world - was against him. He should have listened.

Now, Europe is floundering, and the world is on an isolationist path again. Blair - and the world - missed the opportunity of creating a viable international peacekeeping force.

And this is the real failure of Iraq.

More imperialistic militarism on behalf of fascist western corporatism

Invade, thieve resources, set up military bases, support dictators, resist grass roots democratic movements and democracy in general

....the standard US mantra - global fascism via the Corporate slave vehicle.

DO AS YOU ARE TOLD PEOPLE or suffer the consequences

Even the great Obama corporate fake fascist clown puppet will hunt you down with his drones and illegal assassinations

We live in a global tyranny