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Reply #15 - Apr 3rd, 2013 at 8:40am
 
Swagman wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 8:35am:
John Smith wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 8:04am:
Vic wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 7:55am:
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Vic wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 7:25am:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 7:23am:
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amazing how they can change their values when their backs are against the wall...dont forget we have also been selling it to India.. another of their No No's.


Yet when Tony Abbott changes his values to suit public opinion you claim it is a sign of virtue.....The ALP are allowed to change there stand on any issue it sees fit to advance the economy and the nation.....To resist change based on obsolete values would be the real failure.....I fail to see any substance to this puerile attack on the ALP for changing it's policy on uranium mining.....If changing values is wrong how do you justify Abbott changing his opinion on almost everything???

Huh Huh Huh



yes amazing Phil - especially when you read this bit in the posting  "
The mine has already received state government approval"   
It seems like their precious LIBERAL state government sold them out well before Federal Labor.   But that's OK...it is a Liberal government in WA after all Grin Grin


HILARIOUS.

"LIBS have always supported uranium mining...
its the Labs have been against it.....
up until now.."

Howard had a contract with India to sell them uranium...with strict rules.. however rudd and Co cancelled that.. Until  I think it was about 2 years ago...they havent made a lot of noise about that though...

now suddenly mining is A.OK..with the left...LOL>.

your mad if you think the Libs would look a gift horse in the mouth like this..



like most things... its the abuse of the product that is the problem if we have strict rules and even stricter monitoring..things should be fine..


"LIBS have always supported uranium mining...
its the Labs have been against it.....
up until now.."


Really?   Labor have been against it?   Funny, for my previous years in Darwin the stuff was rolling through!  Bit of background for you......



- After winning the 1983 federal election, the
ALP
adopted a modified version of this policy at a national level,
agreeing to continued production at the then-currently operating uranium mines (Nabarlek and Ranger), as well as Olympic Dam, which was then in the planning stages.
This 'three mines policy' prevailed through 2007, with the exception of the approval of the start-up of the Beverley mine in 2000 by a Liberal federal government and a Liberal state government in South Australia.

- Since 2007, the ALP has followed a new policy, whereby, at a national level, it supports uranium mining, but permits the states to choose whether, and to what degree, to permit uranium mining and exploration. The policies in effect in each state are discussed below.

http://www.renaissanceuranium.com.au/renaissance/uraniumsector.html



Don't confuse her with facts bigvic .....


Get your hand off it....

Tolerating 3 mines for 20 years is hardly being FOR uranium mining.  Roll Eyes  The facts are that Labor both federal and State Govts have been blocking uranium mining for 20+ years (your own reference is testimony to this).

Again I ask, just how many jobs and how much in tax revenues have been foregone to Australia because of Labor's ideological anti-uranium stance? Huh

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This was the statement made

"LIBS have always supported uranium mining... its the Labs have been against it.....up until now.."

Is it true or false?


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Reply #16 - Apr 3rd, 2013 at 8:43am
 
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its the Labs have been against it


True.  Now be a good Bigvicfella and answer my question.

How many jobs and how much in tax revenues have been foregone to Australia because of Labor's ideological anti-uranium stance? Have a shot Big Vic.  An estimate will have to do. Sad

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Reply #17 - Apr 3rd, 2013 at 8:47am
 
Swagman wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 8:43am:
Quote:
its the Labs have been against it


True.  Now be a good Bigvicfella and answer my question.

How many jobs and how much in tax revenues have been foregone to Australia because of Labor's ideological anti-uranium stance? Have a shot Big Vic.  An estimate will have to do. Sad



Are you just going to invent an answer just like you did with the cost of the Kyoto penalties? Can I suggest you run with Billions ... in the interests of uniformity
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Reply #18 - Apr 3rd, 2013 at 8:54am
 
Swagman wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 8:43am:
Quote:
its the Labs have been against it


True.  Now be a good Bigvicfella and answer my question.

How many jobs and how much in tax revenues have been foregone to Australia because of Labor's ideological anti-uranium stance? Have a shot Big Vic.  An estimate will have to do. Sad




I doubt if anyone could give a qualitative or quantative answer to that Swag.   I have posted a link for you that contains some interesting reading.  It may or may not answer your question.   

In the mean time - a poster stated that Labor had been against uranium mining up till now - is that a true statement.  I will let you have a think about it ..

http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/Country-Profiles/Countries-A-F/Australia--Uran...


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Reply #19 - Apr 3rd, 2013 at 8:56am
 
Swagman wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 8:43am:
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its the Labs have been against it


True.  Now be a good Bigvicfella and answer my question.

How many jobs and how much in tax revenues have been foregone to Australia because of Labor's ideological anti-uranium stance? Have a shot Big Vic.  An estimate will have to do. Sad




you left the 'up till now' part off in the reference.  sorta changes the context don't you think?
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Re: Labor approves uranium mining
Reply #20 - Apr 3rd, 2013 at 9:01am
 
Vic wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 8:56am:
Swagman wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 8:43am:
Quote:
its the Labs have been against it


True.  Now be a good Bigvicfella and answer my question.

How many jobs and how much in tax revenues have been foregone to Australia because of Labor's ideological anti-uranium stance? Have a shot Big Vic.  An estimate will have to do. Sad




you left the 'up till now' part off in the reference.  sorta changes the context don't you think?


Not really bigfella.  'Have' is not 'are'

Labor 'have' indeed been against uranium mining.  This is a true statement as I said or do you disagree?

John Smith wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 8:47am:
Are you just going to invent an answer just like you did with the cost of the Kyoto penalties? Can I suggest you run with Billions ... in the interests of uniformity


Now Smithy you know darn well I did not 'invent' an answer in that thread. Smiley
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Reply #21 - Apr 3rd, 2013 at 12:37pm
 
Maqqa wrote on Apr 2nd, 2013 at 10:30pm:
Milne must be sooooo pissed!!!

Mining Tax to be repealed

Now approval for uranium mining

Labor's done SFA about whaling  Grin Grin


What?

Do i dare ask you to explain that one?
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Re: Labor approves uranium mining
Reply #22 - Apr 3rd, 2013 at 12:42pm
 
Infarction wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 12:37pm:
Maqqa wrote on Apr 2nd, 2013 at 10:30pm:
Milne must be sooooo pissed!!!

Mining Tax to be repealed

Now approval for uranium mining

Labor's done SFA about whaling  Grin Grin


What?

Do i dare ask you to explain that one?



Federal Labor’s plan will:

Take Japan to international courts such as the International Court of Justice or the International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea to end the slaughter of whales;

Make formal representations to the Japanese authorities – at bilateral and multilateral meetings - about its practice of whaling;

Enforce Australian law banning the slaughter of whales in the Australian Whale Sanctuary;

Monitor whaling vessels operating in Australian waters, and intercept vessels operating illegally; and

Establish a national network of whale and dolphin sanctuaries.
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Reply #23 - Apr 3rd, 2013 at 12:43pm
 
SFA = Sweet Eff All  Smiley

Naught, nothing, zero, zilch. nil, zip, odds for ALP winning election..... Grin
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Reply #24 - Apr 3rd, 2013 at 12:44pm
 
Maqqa wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 12:42pm:
Infarction wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 12:37pm:
Maqqa wrote on Apr 2nd, 2013 at 10:30pm:
Milne must be sooooo pissed!!!

Mining Tax to be repealed

Now approval for uranium mining

Labor's done SFA about whaling  Grin Grin


What?

Do i dare ask you to explain that one?



Federal Labor’s plan will:

Take Japan to international courts such as the International Court of Justice or the International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea to end the slaughter of whales;

Make formal representations to the Japanese authorities – at bilateral and multilateral meetings - about its practice of whaling;

Enforce Australian law banning the slaughter of whales in the Australian Whale Sanctuary;

Monitor whaling vessels operating in Australian waters, and intercept vessels operating illegally; and

Establish a national network of whale and dolphin sanctuaries.



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Reply #25 - Apr 3rd, 2013 at 12:49pm
 
Oh whaling I thought you meant wailling...

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...anyway what's whales got to do with uranium mining? Undecided
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Reply #26 - Apr 3rd, 2013 at 1:08pm
 
Nothing. Maqqa just felt the need to once again reinforce the fact he has no clue what it is he is talking about.
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Reply #27 - Apr 3rd, 2013 at 2:14pm
 
Swagman wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 9:01am:
Now Smithy you know darn well I did not 'invent' an answer in that thread. 


How would I know that? You claimed it would cost us Billions and then you said you didn't know what the penalties were ... if you didn't know what the penalties were how could you know what it could cost us? sounds just like make believe to me!!!!!
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Reply #28 - Apr 3rd, 2013 at 4:26pm
 
John Smith wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 8:04am:
Vic wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 7:55am:
cods wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 7:42am:
Vic wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 7:25am:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 7:23am:
cods wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 6:58am:
amazing how they can change their values when their backs are against the wall...dont forget we have also been selling it to India.. another of their No No's.


Yet when Tony Abbott changes his values to suit public opinion you claim it is a sign of virtue.....The ALP are allowed to change there stand on any issue it sees fit to advance the economy and the nation.....To resist change based on obsolete values would be the real failure.....I fail to see any substance to this puerile attack on the ALP for changing it's policy on uranium mining.....If changing values is wrong how do you justify Abbott changing his opinion on almost everything???

Huh Huh Huh



yes amazing Phil - especially when you read this bit in the posting  "
The mine has already received state government approval"   
It seems like their precious LIBERAL state government sold them out well before Federal Labor.   But that's OK...it is a Liberal government in WA after all Grin Grin


HILARIOUS.

"LIBS have always supported uranium mining...
its the Labs have been against it.....
up until now.."

Howard had a contract with India to sell them uranium...with strict rules.. however rudd and Co cancelled that.. Until  I think it was about 2 years ago...they havent made a lot of noise about that though...

now suddenly mining is A.OK..with the left...LOL>.

your mad if you think the Libs would look a gift horse in the mouth like this..



like most things... its the abuse of the product that is the problem if we have strict rules and even stricter monitoring..things should be fine..


"LIBS have always supported uranium mining...
its the Labs have been against it.....
up until now.."


Really?   Labor have been against it?   Funny, for my previous years in Darwin the stuff was rolling through!  Bit of background for you......



- After winning the 1983 federal election, the
ALP
adopted a modified version of this policy at a national level,
agreeing to continued production at the then-currently operating uranium mines (Nabarlek and Ranger), as well as Olympic Dam, which was then in the planning stages.
This 'three mines policy' prevailed through 2007, with the exception of the approval of the start-up of the Beverley mine in 2000 by a Liberal federal government and a Liberal state government in South Australia.

- Since 2007, the ALP has followed a new policy, whereby, at a national level, it supports uranium mining, but permits the states to choose whether, and to what degree, to permit uranium mining and exploration. The policies in effect in each state are discussed below.

http://www.renaissanceuranium.com.au/renaissance/uraniumsector.html



Don't confuse her with facts bigvic .....






Three mine policy
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The three mine policy, introduced in 1984 and abandoned in 1996, was a policy of the government of Australia to limit the number of uranium mines in the country to three.[1][2]
[edit]History

The foundations of the three-mine policy for uranium mining were laid in 1982, when, at a conference of the Australian Labor Party, the party decided to adopt a "no new mines" policy. At the time, two uranium mines were operating, both in the Northern Territory, Ranger and Nabarlek. However, this new policy left a loophole, as it permitted uranium to be mined as a by-product of other mining operations. The later exception allowed for development of the Olympic Dam mine, located in South Australia, as it also contained gold and copper.[2]
The following year, 1983, Labor won the federal elections and came into power for the first time since 1975.
The three mine policy was officially introduced in 1984, after the federal elections that year had confirmed Bob Hawke of the Labor Party as Prime Minister of Australia. The policy restricted uranium mining in Australia to three existing mines, Ranger, Nabarlek and Olympic Dam.[1]
The policy was abandoned in 1996, after the 1996 federal election replaced the Labor Party with John Howard's Coalition in power.[3] The new policy was to develop the country's uranium mining industry and uranium exports.[1]
The Australian Labor Party changed back its policy in the 1990s to a "no new mines" policy to allow uranium mines already approved by the Coalition government to go ahead.[4] With the opening of a fourth uranium mine in Australia in 2001, the Beverley uranium mine, and the approval of a fifth mine, the Honeymoon uranium mine, Labor's stand had essentially become a "five-mine policy", as Nabarlek had since been closed.[2]
The Labor Party, however, continued its opposition to increased uranium mining until 2006, when, under the leadership of Kim Beazley, discussions to abandon the three mine policy were initiated.[5] The party eventually abandoned the policy in 2007, at a national conference, under the new leadership of Kevin Rudd, but faced heavy internal criticism for it.[6]
Individual states continued t
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Reply #29 - Apr 3rd, 2013 at 4:28pm
 
Sssooooo China onsells Aussie uranium to North Korea and it comes back at us raining down from the sky..
A Pig Iron Bob moment..
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