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Re: Mr Abbott Will The under 30s Be Cut Off The Dole.
Reply #31 - Apr 10^th, 2013 at 11:18am

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 10^th, 2013 at 9:21am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 10^th, 2013 at 9:10am:

John Smith wrote on Apr 10^th, 2013 at 8:20am:

What is wrong with enlisting the long term unemployed? Spend years unable to find a job and you quickly start to feel worthless and unwanted, enlistment can give you a sense of accomplishing something and of belonging.

They can also get killed. Nobody should be forced to take a job where there is a good chance they will be killed - especially if they disagree with it.

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Spoken from your vast military experience spot?

And you wonder why we called you out on your bullsh1t claim of service.

All your military knowledge comes from comics and movies, no doubt about it.

Where exactly did i claim to serve? Link to it please.

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Reply #32 - Apr 10^th, 2013 at 11:57am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 10^th, 2013 at 11:18am:

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 10^th, 2013 at 9:21am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 10^th, 2013 at 9:10am:

John Smith wrote on Apr 10^th, 2013 at 8:20am:

What is wrong with enlisting the long term unemployed? Spend years unable to find a job and you quickly start to feel worthless and unwanted, enlistment can give you a sense of accomplishing something and of belonging.

They can also get killed. Nobody should be forced to take a job where there is a good chance they will be killed - especially if they disagree with it.

SOB

Spoken from your vast military experience spot?

And you wonder why we called you out on your bullsh1t claim of service.

All your military knowledge comes from comics and movies, no doubt about it.

Where exactly did i claim to serve? Link to it please.

SOB

Yes you did take the faggot approach were you claimed to maybe have served and then again maybe you didn't serve; what a pathetic human being you are. Grin

You either did or you didn't there is no maybe

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Sir lastnail Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 30089 Gender:	Re: Mr Abbott Will The under 30s Be Cut Off The Dole. Reply #33 - Apr 10^th, 2013 at 12:49pm Quote: This is somthing Mr Abbott must spell out. We know he wants to bring in more work for the dole rubbish, but will Mr Abbott cut the under 30s off the dole?. Aborts work for the dole scam = lots of business opportunities for liberal entrepreneurs LOL
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Re: Mr Abbott Will The under 30s Be Cut Off The Dole.
Reply #34 - Apr 10^th, 2013 at 6:42pm

Swagman wrote on Apr 9^th, 2013 at 8:31am:

Unemployed and < 30 and into the army..... Cheesy

Why do people who have NFI always propose putting no hopers and delinquents into the armed forces.....The army is for dedicated people who are disciplined and prepared to do hard work to defend our nation.....The armed forces is not a place for people the right consider unworthy or hopeless.....Think about how stupid your suggestion really is mate???

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Re: Mr Abbott Will The under 30s Be Cut Off The Dole.
Reply #35 - Apr 12^th, 2013 at 5:40am

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 10^th, 2013 at 11:57am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 10^th, 2013 at 11:18am:

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 10^th, 2013 at 9:21am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 10^th, 2013 at 9:10am:

John Smith wrote on Apr 10^th, 2013 at 8:20am:

What is wrong with enlisting the long term unemployed? Spend years unable to find a job and you quickly start to feel worthless and unwanted, enlistment can give you a sense of accomplishing something and of belonging.

They can also get killed. Nobody should be forced to take a job where there is a good chance they will be killed - especially if they disagree with it.

SOB

Spoken from your vast military experience spot?

And you wonder why we called you out on your bullsh1t claim of service.

All your military knowledge comes from comics and movies, no doubt about it.

Where exactly did i claim to serve? Link to it please.

SOB

Yes you did take the faggot approach were you claimed to maybe have served and then again maybe you didn't serve; what a pathetic human being you are. Grin

You either did or you didn't there is no maybe

No. I took the approach (and still take the approach) that you dont know if i have served or not.

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Re: Mr Abbott Will The under 30s Be Cut Off The Dole.
Reply #36 - Apr 12^th, 2013 at 8:53am

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What would an Abbott government be like? Last week our probable prime minister gave us clues with two surprising statements: an Abbott government would cut off funding of public transport projects, and allow the earnings of retirees with millions in super funds to go untaxed.

Does anyone have the transcript to this?

I love the way lefties take a sound byte and smear eg Whyalla comment

I note the mention of Abbott's book Battlelines in the article and I know how much FD loves to quote that and a 1.25min sound byte from a 13 minutes interview as LIB policies - when in reality it was a discussion on his book

The book is meant to be a discussion point

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Re: Mr Abbott Will The under 30s Be Cut Off The Dole.
Reply #37 - Apr 12^th, 2013 at 9:06am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 12^th, 2013 at 5:40am:

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 10^th, 2013 at 11:57am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 10^th, 2013 at 11:18am:

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 10^th, 2013 at 9:21am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 10^th, 2013 at 9:10am:

John Smith wrote on Apr 10^th, 2013 at 8:20am:

What is wrong with enlisting the long term unemployed? Spend years unable to find a job and you quickly start to feel worthless and unwanted, enlistment can give you a sense of accomplishing something and of belonging.

They can also get killed. Nobody should be forced to take a job where there is a good chance they will be killed - especially if they disagree with it.

SOB

Spoken from your vast military experience spot?

And you wonder why we called you out on your bullsh1t claim of service.

All your military knowledge comes from comics and movies, no doubt about it.

Where exactly did i claim to serve? Link to it please.

SOB

Yes you did take the faggot approach were you claimed to maybe have served and then again maybe you didn't serve; what a pathetic human being you are. Grin

You either did or you didn't there is no maybe

No. I took the approach (and still take the approach) that you dont know if i have served or not.

SOB

Like I said the faggot approach.

You either did or didn't and since those who have served are easily identified through Mil-speak, a skill that never quite goes away, Im calling no.

If you had served you would:

1. Just say you have, instead of being a coy faggot, who do understand the legality of false service claims at least

2. Know a hell of a lot more about military life than you do.

3. Not talk about other service men and women so disparagingly. (it is on page 5 of your f111 thread)

4. Have some shred of evidence available to confirm your service, instead you take the maybe I did, maybe I didn't to cover up the facts.

5. Constantly making basic mistakes of fact when discussing military matters, like who actually works on aircraft and who doesn't.

It all adds up to a walter mitty wanna-be.

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Re: Mr Abbott Will The under 30s Be Cut Off The Dole.
Reply #38 - Apr 12^th, 2013 at 9:09am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 10^th, 2013 at 9:10am:

John Smith wrote on Apr 10^th, 2013 at 8:20am:

What is wrong with enlisting the long term unemployed? Spend years unable to find a job and you quickly start to feel worthless and unwanted, enlistment can give you a sense of accomplishing something and of belonging.

They can also get killed. Nobody should be forced to take a job where there is a good chance they will be killed - especially if they disagree with it.

SOB

I think most people would disagree with being killed, Spot...

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Re: Mr Abbott Will The under 30s Be Cut Off The Dole.
Reply #39 - Apr 12^th, 2013 at 1:06pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 10^th, 2013 at 6:14am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 9^th, 2013 at 2:36pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 9^th, 2013 at 9:31am:

Swagman wrote on Apr 9^th, 2013 at 9:20am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 9^th, 2013 at 9:14am:

Seriously how many times has it been pointed out to you? There arent enough jobs for everyone

I do not believe that to be the case Borg.

This is from january

http://www.smh.com.au/data-point/job-vacancies-plunge-as-confidence-slides-20130...

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Australia had only 166,000 vacant jobs in November, down from 193,000 two years earlier. More than 600,000 Australians were looking for work.

How many looking for jobs?

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Hellooooo swagman! are you trying to ignore this?

SOB

Swagman you need to acknowledge this so we can move on and you can stop saying that everyone can "get a job".

SOB

Advertised job vacancies are not the only way to get a job and I'll still maintain that if you really want a job you can get one.

Your linked article it is damning testimony that Labor's taxathon is not a very good way to generate employment. Sad

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corporate_whitey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8896 Archivist	Re: Mr Abbott Will The under 30s Be Cut Off The Dole. Reply #40 - Apr 12^th, 2013 at 1:09pm They need to start closing off tax shelters for the rich and investing the national wealth into creating working class Jobs for wotking class people and soon...
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Re: Mr Abbott Will The under 30s Be Cut Off The Dole.
Reply #41 - Apr 12^th, 2013 at 1:21pm

philperth2010 wrote on Apr 10^th, 2013 at 6:42pm:

Swagman wrote on Apr 9^th, 2013 at 8:31am:

Unemployed and < 30 and into the army..... Cheesy

Why do people who have NFI always propose putting no hopers and delinquents into the armed forces.....The army is for dedicated people who are disciplined and prepared to do hard work to defend our nation.....The armed forces is not a place for people the right consider unworthy or hopeless.....Think about how stupid your suggestion really is mate???

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Ease the revs....mate.

I'm talking about national service and obviously I don't think it is a stupid suggestion.

Many individuals are unemployed just because they have no experience, no self discipline and low self esteem.

A stint in the military could provide all these things and also give the country the added bonus of an active reserve and who knows they might actually like it and stay on.

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corporate_whitey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8896 Archivist	Re: Mr Abbott Will The under 30s Be Cut Off The Dole. Reply #42 - Apr 12^th, 2013 at 1:51pm over a million Australians have been deliberately liquidated from the economy and even from benefits by the Governments implementation of Thatchers policy of cradle to the grave persecution and denial of the underclass...thats the basis of this economy...genocide of the underclass...
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Reply #43 - Apr 12^th, 2013 at 2:51pm

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 10^th, 2013 at 9:19am:

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What a ridiculous idea, to force people into the army. One that certainly should not be allowed. No one should be forced into the armed services. Sad

Don't panic crook, no-one is going to make you join up. Grin

I can assure you the ADF does not want a bunch of useless retards, cluster smacking the system.

The best place for the useless is on the dole not in the ADF; it is not the dumping ground for d1ckheads.

Right. Then we'd end up with a military resembling the Yanks.

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Reply #44 - Apr 12^th, 2013 at 2:58pm

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What a ridiculous idea, to force people into the army. One that certainly should not be allowed. No one should be forced into the armed services. Sad

Just like no body should be forced to hand over half their income to the Govt when others pay naught? Huh

They need not be forced. I agree that they shouldn't be.

Just stop their dole if they refuse. Sad

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