longweekend58
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sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 12 th, 2013 at 1:28pm: longweekend58 wrote on Apr 12 th, 2013 at 1:21pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 12 th, 2013 at 11:26am: longweekend58 wrote on Apr 12 th, 2013 at 11:24am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 12 th, 2013 at 10:55am: Longie, are you referring to this blog? Quote:It seems that a day doesn’t go by without someone from the Coalition side of politics recounting the fact that the Howard Government inherited $96 billion of net Government debt when it won the 1996 election and that over the course of the next decade, it “paid it off”.
There is no denying the fact that net debt was $96 billion in 1995-96 and it was eliminated in 2007-08, the year that the Howard Government lost office.
It is useful and enlightening to look at some other facts behind that $96 billion level of debt “inherited” by the Howard Government, given that there is an implication that all of the $96 billion was racked-up under the Hawke and Keating Governments between 1983-84 and 1995-96.
Something that you never hear, until now, is the fact that almost half of the $96 billion of debt was sourced from the Fraser Government, which in its last few years had Mr Howard as Treasurer.
When John Howard was Treasurer, net Government debt rose at a steady pace, hitting 7.5% of GDP when Fraser lost the 1983 election. In 1996 dollar terms, 7.5% of GDP is around $40 billion which is in fact the real level of net government debt “inherited” by the Hawke Government when it won the 1983 election.
Recall, by way of context, the fact that the Fraser Government “inherited” zero net government debt from the Whitlam Government in 1975-76, so all of the build up in government debt in the Fraser years was self imposed by the Coalition, its policies and the business cycle.
Coming back to the issue of the $96 billion net debt inherited by the Howard Government in 1996, it’s a fact that 42% of it was bequeathed from the Fraser Government and left for Labor to deal with during its term of government.
So next time you hear someone from the Coalition or elsewhere for that matter banging on about the $96 billion of Labor Government debt that was paid off by the Howard Government, remind them of the fact that $40 billion of it or almost half was a hangover of the debt left to Labor by the Fraser Government in 1983. that looks like the one. it is blatantly biased and chooses to redefine debt conveniently to support a political ideology. The actual and indisputable facts is that Fraser left $9B in debt. This is an example of the writers blatant and significant bias and why the OP is so discredited. now if it were written by someone with a record for balance and non-partisan writing then perahsp it woudl be worthy of discussion. But you refuse to debate a Bolt article so it is the same thing here. He did, in 1983. The blog talks about real terms in 1996, which is comparing the 96 Billion in 1996. no the blog doesnt use 'real' terms. real terms would be the CPI increase making it $19B - still not $40B. he uses a convenient GDP argument which he would use if the argument went the other way - the sure sign of an invalid argument. His argument is that $40B of the debt can very well be attributed to the state of the economy left by Fraser in 1983, with a $9B debt. One could argue that Keating and Hawke had to take on the extra debt in order to fix up the stuff ups of the Howard treasury. And look at the outcome in GDP growth as a result. But had Howard been a better treasurer, would we really have needed to take on that $40B worth of debt in the first place? Who knows, I'm not a story teller, all I can say is that his argument makes sense and doesn't say that Fraser left $40B, it's saying that 7.5% of GDp in debt in 1996 is the direct result of Howard's inadequacies as treasurer in 1983. its a bogus argument that is used in this manner because it suits a purpose. of course the fact the the worst post war global recession was in 82/83 is ignored just as is the fact that it followed on frmo a decade of global economic stagnation. all that context is conveniently ignored and suddenly $9B becaomes $40B. pure nonsens.
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